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[MegAzumarill]

VOTE: galron

I overreacted yesterday probably. still don't like Ari's push on me and don't want to rule her out as scum but I'm not sure she has that much reason to take this angle as scum rn when it feels like she would be going to extremes of anger and effort for not a massive amount of benefit? and even though I disagree I guess her blowing up at meg feels sort of towny

i don't really have any wagons I'd be interested in other than this, I think galron slot has been pretty consistently wolfy. I thought I've explained the why of it already but I'd be happy to elaborate

idk if it means anything at all but fwiw im 99.9% certain this is town!ari now

do you think ari is town from this or do you think ausuka is town

that is me talking to ausuka

no offense, but is english not your first language or something because you seem to have extreme difficulty in actually understanding the meaning of posts

It is my first language.
To be fair the post was ambiguous

[scamper]

I want to put you (skitter)in a situation where you are forced to give proactive posts.

By definition I can't tell you what to post or it would be reactive.

so let me get this straight:

- you think i've been too reactive and this makes me scum somehow

Yes and no. I've said its NAI.

- you say you want information from me because i've been "withdrawn"

A better term is reactive, but yes

- you hope to get this by wagoning me

Yes

- somehow in your mind voting me is going to force me to play in a way that is not reactive

With suitable votes it would.

- but also youre not going to actually say what it is youre looking for or what i'm supposedly missing, because then i would be able to actually provide it

Im not asking for something like a readslist. I want to analyze behavior but its hard to find anything in the current context.

did i get all of that right?

(also its scamper, thanks)

any behavior in response to being voted is by definition reactive, you cannot possibly hope for something to somehow be "proactive" in this manner

for the most part i feel like i've been contributing in my own way and making observations so what you are saying is complete nonsense

also, the game is played by people making posts and other people responding to those posts so the idea that this is somehow scum-indicative is also nonsensical

[scamper]

i hate that the reasoning meg has given on everything is so completely bad and illogical here that i have to consider if this is just scum making terrible nonsense pushes


but i hate even more that i feel like this still might be coming from town

[MegAzumarill]

Im not saying you aren't posting or giving info.

I just find that information NAI, maybe trending scum so far. I want you to give information in a new context.

Do you really think people being under pressure of elimination give the same content as those with no pressure?

[MegAzumarill]

My points have been heavily misconstrued so far and I'm not happy about it.

Anyway I'm off for the night. Gnight

[scamper]

i didn't say that

do you think you've gotten anything from voting me?

[scamper]

My points have been heavily misconstrued so far and I'm not happy about it.

Anyway I'm off for the night. Gnight

no, they haven't been misconstrued, they are just absolutely awful and considering multiple people are saying this i think the issue is p clearly on your end

[scamper]

i would have no problem with it if you had simply said i was scummy and deserved to be pressured. you would be wrong still, but it would make sense


the issue i have is that the things you are saying are illogical, and when i directly contradict the arguments you are making you go "no that isn't what i meant you're misconstruing me" and get evasive instead of going into what specifically you actually find scummy about my posting. it has been basically impossible to get a coherent explanation of your reasoning and you seem resistant to actually doing so. this makes you incredibly difficult to work with in any meaningful fashion and it's a serious problem if you are town

[Datisi]

ok i read about 1/10th of posts and i scrolled through ari's isp a bit and i wanna say this is very likely town!ari bc i really don't think scum!ari loses her nerves like this

i see galron hasn't done shit since i was last here so how many votes is he on? i wanna vote him but don't wanna lolhammer

pls link me if i need to respond to anything

[scamper]

hi dats! i am currently voting you

[Datisi]

VOTE: datisi

i wanna try this out for a bit

okay

have you learned anything from this vote by the reactions of others and is there anything you want me to respond to / look at

[scamper]

VOTE: datisi

i wanna try this out for a bit

okay

have you learned anything from this vote by the reactions of others and is there anything you want me to respond to / look at

no, i just wanted to get your attention

i'm not scumreading u per se but i'm not townreading u and was hoping that talking with you would help with actually sorting u

[scamper]

also i checked and only ari & ausuka are voting galron right now

on that note: what about galron's opening posts seemed 'better' and is 24 hours of inactivity on a weekend enough for you to go back to voting him?

[scamper]

i have to go to sleep so i won't be able to talk but i want to reiterate what i said in 417: do you *really* think linking the wiki page for "straw man" shows a thought process and is townie somehow?

[Datisi]

my attention has been acquired

unfortunately i am not able to properly catch up until like 12 hours from now, so

the opening posts were better than his posts in the exploder game enchant modded recently. but i am not so impressed by him that i wanna let him skate by on d1 without content. and i remember thinking his last post or two were kinda uninspiring but idk

and yes, i think that has the intention of showing you that you're committing a strawman (which imho you were doing to me, at least at some point), but it doesn't draw the lamist attention to themself. it doesn't help fuel the me/you fight since i'm basically already accusing you of strawmanning myself so it's not new info to the table.

it's not a lock by any means but i do like the post

[Datisi]

It was something like you don't see the thing I do, at least the way I'm seeing it. How does that make me maf?

yeah, this post felt really boring to me and like a very uninspiring response

also, since i think ausuka and ari are both town, i think it's worth it getting our attention to lower impact slots than letting them storm up the thread even more

[Donempire]

ok i read about 1/10th of posts and i scrolled through ari's isp a bit and i wanna say this is very likely town!ari bc i really don't think scum!ari loses her nerves like this

i see galron hasn't done shit since i was last here so how many votes is he on? i wanna vote him but don't wanna lolhammer

pls link me if i need to respond to anything

Can you tell me why she doesnt tilt as scum? Can you link a scum game with a similar circumstance if you can?

[Datisi]

i don't see why she would need to get angry about things here or why she would, like it seemed she was pissed at meg not playing efforty and i don't think that's likely to come from scum!her

and i don't think scum!her would enjoy faking rage

and no, i can't, there are none

[Donempire]

I might have an idea on why she would get angry about this situation. And i dont think her anger is faked. I just woke up so i wont post until i'm free, but i think we might just about wrap the day up here.

[Datisi]

wrap the day up by voting whom?

[Coral]

Hi! Checking in to say that I won't be around much at all tomorrow. I don't think I have any new opinions right now. I guess the only thing would be that I'm more and more thinking that it could just be Galron, as nearly everyone else seems to be achieving some level of towntelling.

[Ausuka]

I agree Galron is the only person who really feels like a wolf right now

It's possible that it is literally just galron and Xayah but it's probably more likely that one of the many players in this game who are significantly more talented than me have snowed me

That's a problem for future ausuka though

[Coral]

My guess would be that it's one of Galron or Xayah but not both, alongside... Don or Datisi? I haven't thought about that too much but it feels reasonable

[Ausuka]

If Done is a wolf I'd be really impressed tbh, he sounds like when he goes on a tangent about stuff like me being scum for the Rolecop thing he genuinely believes what he's saying?

The same goes for Datisi but I know Datisi is good at scum whereas I'm not as familiar with Done, so like, yeah idk. I think there's a contingent of players, like {scamper, you, datisi, Aristeia} where I don't think I could catch you on d1 anyway. I think of those players datisi is probably the least likely to be a wolf as I've said. I hope that doesn't come off as total nonsense, it makes sense in my brain. Aristeia is like, I wanted to think she's a wolf but am now not sure because her play doesn't make that much sense and a lot of people who know her say she's basically locktown so...

You and scamper both come across as good and reasonable so I don't exactly have a reason to suspect you guys

[Ausuka]

It's possible that it's just Galron and Datisi and he has me pocketed, hopefully I'll be able to share more about why I don't really think he's a wolf here soon so other people can evaluate the reasoning? But at the very least I like his vibes in the same way I like you and scamper - yeah all of you are good at the game and probably capable of giving off good vibes to me as scum but if I like all your posts I'm not going to suspect you anyway. If that makes sense.