Large Normal 240: Baileyposting [game over]

[UNOwen]

If, for some reason, kills do not happen and

MalcolmTucker

is still alive, I will be the first one to organise a wagon against him on Day 5 or Day 6.

Presumably this should read day 4 or day 5, but it's exactly why Malcolm should be the execution today anyway.

I'll give Malakittens some time to claim and if she doesn't I'll hammer.

[Malakittens]

I’m an even-night cop.
I have an innocent on enchant.
Hence my townread and refusal to vote there.

[Vivax]

VOTE: MalcolmTucker

hiss

[Unsure]

VOTE: MalcolmTucker Okay no takebacks this time

[Enchant]

VOTE: Malcolm

I guess it makes sense now.

[geraintm]

I have no reason to doubt that claim.

[UNOwen]

Definitely not unvoting now. Death to Malcolm!

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Malcolm
Knew your townread on enchant was full of it mala.

[Datisi]

vote count 3.final

with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 3 ended.

yeet

MalcolmTucker [7]:

UNOwen, geraintm, Malakittens, Vivax, Unsure, Enchant, Firebringer

[HAMMER]

Malakittens [3]:

Prince of Paterson, Greeting, Crescent

Prince of Paterson [2]:

Lowell, Andante

Enchant [1]:

MalcolmTucker

not voting [0]:

mod notes

~ Lowell is v/la till wednesday
~ this is a mod note.

flavour

[Datisi]

MalcolmTucker has been yeeted day 3. he was a

town loyal vigilante

.

the sun sets, it is now night 3. sunrise in (expired on 2022-08-04 20:45:07).

daystart will be a few hours late, as i will be at work when the deadline expires. all night actions are due the above deadline.

Lowell has to respond to the nightstart message within 24 hours or get replaced.

[Datisi]

Andante has been killed night 3. she was a

town 1-shot rolestopper

.

the sun rises. it is now day 4.

[Datisi]

vote count 4.00

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 4 ends in (expired on 2022-08-14 23:15:00).

yeet

not voting [11]:

Unsure, Vivax, Greeting, Firebringer, Malakittens, Crescent, Lowell, Enchant, geraintm, UNOwen, Prince of Paterson

mod notes

~ this is a mod note.

flavour

[Vivax]

That's a brutal twist in flavour there

VOTE: PrinceofPaterson

[Crescent]

...Why would a rolestopper have anything to do with Malcolm's claim?

Anyways I've been stewing on this the entire night phase because I wrote up a post on this only to find the topic locked when I hit the submit button (You couldn't wait like, two more minutes? Thanks.), but Mala's claim has a contradiction to me. I would like to know why Mala had the original reaction she did to MT's claim, and why it changed to calling him scum. It feels like the latter should've been the initial reaction given what she eventually claimed.

So Mala... With a dead gunsmith, and him essentially claiming vigilante cop, why were you so passive about his claim until you were personally under pressure? What changed to make Malcolm so scummy to you in this timeframe?

Not that I'd advocate killing off an even night cop claim on day 4, but I do want an answers here.

[Greeting]

I don't buy

Mala

's claim at all.

To me, this was evidently a last-ditch effort to save herself from elimination and to get us to eliminate

MalcolmTucker

instead. And, of course, conveniently, her role supposedly works even nights only so her role is not provable on Night Three.

I think we should decide if it's not better to mass role claim and figure out the setup now.

[Prince of Paterson]

Right. Well. I'm not sure how nobody decided to check if Mala's claim made any sense, but it doesn't.

But hey if you guys want a flip with zero info go ahead a lim me

That’s just cool

She was at 5 votes when she said this. Her treatment of Enchant also doesn't really match up with someone who got an innocent result on night 2.

I think there's probably scum in that pivot to Malcolm after the claim.

[Enchant]

...Why would a rolestopper have anything to do with Malcolm's claim?

I came here just to explain it.

Andante wanted to rolestop Malcolm, so he can't be roleblocked.

Peace. I sleep

[Crescent]

Right. Well. I'm not sure how nobody decided to check if Mala's claim made any sense, but it doesn't.

But hey if you guys want a flip with zero info go ahead a lim me

That’s just cool

She was at 5 votes when she said this. Her treatment of Enchant also doesn't really match up with someone who got an innocent result on night 2.

I think there's probably scum in that pivot to Malcolm after the claim.

I was like two minutes from it, but no Amazon has to decide to give me this super important survey for me to burn 20 minutes on, and then the topic closes on me when I hit submit. At the end of the day people were hurrying, no one bothered to even give the claim a look over.

I want you to go into more detail about her treatment of Enchant, because it's specifically her treatment of Malcolm I find weird.

[Prince of Paterson]

I think there's probably scum in that pivot to Malcolm after the claim.

Probably, but not certain. All four who switched were also on the 5 vote Mala wagon day 2. It's possible that's all town.

[Prince of Paterson]

I want you to go into more detail about her treatment of Enchant, because it's specifically her treatment of Malcolm I find weird.

Really it's mostly the fact that she didn't say anything about it initially. She is reading, catching up, and posts 1454 with no mention of Enchant, and instead talks about how Andante is very locktown and she'll never lim there. It doesn't make any sense to me to talk about a slot that you find very town and that you will never lim immediately after receiving an innocent result on someone else. It's only after that, with 1457, that she brings up a reason to townread Enchant, which is that they made a funny joke.

[Prince of Paterson]

Especially because if she had gotten night killed before claiming, people would see her flip and go read her posts and interpret it as Andante clear rather than Enchant. It's dangerous play and doesn't make sense from a cop.

[Greeting]

I know the mantra by heart: don't eliminate an uncc'd power role. But the circumstances in which this claim arose,

Mala

's play in this game (and Dwlee's), the claim itself (as I said in 2189) and the result of this claim - the miselimination of

MT

are all ringing my alarm bells

hard.

I am down to eliminate

Malakittens

today. My instincts haven't failed me in this game yet and they keep telling me this is a very convenient fake claim.

Mala

doesn't give too many damns about this game (as she never does when she rolls scum), then unexpectedly shows up, claims and offers a one-two sentence explanation?

I. Do. Not. Buy. It.

VOTE: Malakittens

[Crescent]

Well, it's not like scum would've ever killed her, though it does interact with her reaction with Malcolm, given she would've been one of his most likely targets if he was town, and her initial reaction towards his claim was passive, before suddenly calling him scummy as hell for seemingly no reason, though I would say she dropped passive defense of Enchant multiple times, and her defense of Andante actually had a reason. If anyone in her ISO looks like someone she may have scanned innocent as a cop, it's [i[clearly[/i] Enchant - From the way she flat out made up a reason to defend him. to the passive defense she later showered him with.


I question everything she did with Malcolm, but Enchant seems straightforward enough.

[Firebringer]

Ngl kind of happy andante went
She didn’t seem to be in cooperative mood this game

Actually surprised prince hasn’t accused me of being scummy for her death since her out of way goes to his theory that I can push game where I want

We aren’t in a lim or loose right. Do I need to count
Because otherwise I don’t want to lim mala because she acts tonight and I want to hear results regardless of alignment and people can say that’s dumb all they want

We shouldn’t have limmed Malcom and that one is 100% on me

[Crescent]

There's 3 scum in 11, so we're nowhere near lylo. I have no idea why people keep bringing up lylo when we've never gotten close to it.

And frankly... I'm still 100% ok with Malcolm dying yesterday. That role was a disaster waiting to happen after he misplayed it as badly as humanly possible.