LOST (Game Over)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

Do scum really soft their role this early?

I don't think so.

[MalcolmTucker]

I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

Do scum really soft their role this early?

I don't think so.

I feel like Mala very much has their own unique playing style a lot of the time, I wouldn't rule it out, but I'm not entirely convinced by the scumcase here. I feel like there's a risk Mala becomes a sort of easy elimination by default here. But maybe I'm just too tunnelled on Rad to see it - certainly if Mala does come back scum it gives us lots of useful info.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It does?

What info do you think it gives?

[MalcolmTucker]

It does?

What info do you think it gives?

Well if Mala is scum then Rad is town. My hesitation comes from the fact I reckon Rad is likely scum though which sours me on Mala.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You said 'lots of useful info'.

Is that it?

[MalcolmTucker]

You said 'lots of useful info'.

Is that it?

I mean, quite clearly, by extension anyone else pushing strongly for Mala would be likely town as well if not already confirmed. And on the other hand, should Mala come back town it'd only affirm my read on Rad as being likely scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hmm, I suppose this doesn't really go anywhere but I don't see anyone pushing Mala hard really? Seems to be a flash wagon that just picked up from nowhere.

[Rad]

You said 'lots of useful info'.

Is that it?

I mean, quite clearly, by extension anyone else pushing strongly for Mala would be likely town as well if not already confirmed. And on the other hand, should Mala come back town it'd only affirm my read on Rad as being likely scum.

Do you disagree with my perspective in 11956?

[MalcolmTucker]

You said 'lots of useful info'.

Is that it?

I mean, quite clearly, by extension anyone else pushing strongly for Mala would be likely town as well if not already confirmed. And on the other hand, should Mala come back town it'd only affirm my read on Rad as being likely scum.

Do you disagree with my perspective in 11956?

I agree Mala is skilled enough to feign seemingly townie annoyance with an ATE if they are scum.

I've also seen Mala react like this in plenty of games as town though - they can be relatively inactive for spells and then will angrily reply to other players if they are suspected.

I feel like their post is pretty NAI in terms of their likely alignment going forward.

I'm aware we're struggling to solidify an elimination here - I'd potentially accept Mala if we're really unable to get anywhere because I'm not entirely sold on the slot as town and if Mala comes back scum then I'll be even more comfortable on the idea you're scum trying to opportunistically force through miseliminations until you're finally caught out.

But I'm also aware that the town doesn't really seem content to eliminate you or CSF right now, and I know I'm a possible elimination as well, and without wanting to prioritise my own self-preservation over the good of the town, I know I shouldn't be getting eliminated given I'm town.

I do fear this is a bit of an easy/simple elimination though where town reaches a comfortable and inoffensive consensus to get rid of a quieter player - while I actually thought Enchant was scum, I can see in retrospect how it was a convenient elimination for some.

[MalcolmTucker]

Hmm, I suppose this doesn't really go anywhere but I don't see anyone pushing Mala hard really? Seems to be a flash wagon that just picked up from nowhere.

It's a bit of a flash wagon yes, but there's been plenty of passing suspicion on the slot throughout the game and we're far enough into the turn that a popular flashwagon could evolve into a viable elimination. We're clearly struggling to settle on someone here.

[MalcolmTucker]

VOTE: mala

For example, BBT, re info - if Mala turns out to be scum, I'm almost certain BB is town, because I don't see any reason for scum to be bussing a potential partner when the wagon hasn't even really picked up yet. But if Mala comes back town then this begins to look opportunistic in retrospect and it'd strengthen my scumlean on BB.

[Rad]

If anyone's in the spot where they feel mala is probably scum but they're uncomfortable that I'm the one pushing the slot hard, you should probably just vote for me then because I'm not going to be useful as an untrusted player and I'd rather not continue to put in the effort. It's ok I don't blame any town for not reading my slot as town here given bella + bell + Luke. We can't be stuck here for much longer without apathy kicking in even more and I'd rather my existing views be taken seriously as a flipped green than a suspicious try hard.

[butterflies]

I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

Do scum really soft their role this early?

I don't think so.

I feel like Mala very much has their own unique playing style a lot of the time, I wouldn't rule it out, but I'm not entirely convinced by the scumcase here. I feel like there's a risk Mala becomes a sort of easy elimination by default here. But maybe I'm just too tunnelled on Rad to see it - certainly if Mala does come back scum it gives us lots of useful info.

Talk me through your Rad tunnel then? Cause I'm not seeing it. The catchup tl;dr had a lot of information, nobody challenged it and it reminded someone of something. everything I'm seeing here since my arrival is good, honestly.

-butterflea

[MalcolmTucker]

I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

Do scum really soft their role this early?

I don't think so.

I feel like Mala very much has their own unique playing style a lot of the time, I wouldn't rule it out, but I'm not entirely convinced by the scumcase here. I feel like there's a risk Mala becomes a sort of easy elimination by default here. But maybe I'm just too tunnelled on Rad to see it - certainly if Mala does come back scum it gives us lots of useful info.

Talk me through your Rad tunnel then? Cause I'm not seeing it. The catchup tl;dr had a lot of information, nobody challenged it and it reminded someone of something. everything I'm seeing here since my arrival is good, honestly.

-butterflea

Just that I believe Rad is scum - I'm aware I've been on this path for a lot of the game though (albeit with some wavering around D3 if I remember correctly). Mala coming back scum would confirm Rad is town right enough, and I'm aware I could be in the wrong.

[butterflies]

Don't agree with frog about the Titus hydra for now, but can see where they are coming from.

Reassured cat is picking up the same vibes as me from galron

.

Think CSF is spewed town by this. Scum is usually likes to sheep a townie on a bad read.

No because I was Galron.

???

I think you didn’t get my point. Bella’s saying she’s reassured that CSF is mindmelding with her on a scum!Galron read. While sure it’s possible, in general when scum makes this kind of post, it’s usually not to a buddy.

[butterflies]

PD

I already full claimed.

I can easily be tracked to a corpse

Liming me when we don’t get flips is the wrong move

Let’s not go here.

Yeah claim isn't 2 shot so what are the other targets? I don't think mala has disclosed this info or am I missing it in the iso?

And just like with Frogs/Bella, roles aren’t ai in this game.

You don’t see a town role cop or a scum macho doc in many games.

~Nancyfly

(so was the last post)

[butterflies]

Could be, but that's the story with quite a few people. I think oth and csf have the scummiest vibes.

I'm also fully into this T- Bone vs Drap unrequited connection here, might vote there if one of them doesn't resolve soon

I think they’re both town. Drap from play and BLATANT upon blatant upon blatant anti-associatives with Bella and Pooky towncleared T-Bone. I also recall seeing some T-Bone posts (can’t recall offhand) which looked uninformed to me.

[butterflies]

Sorry I’m just in a foul mood

And this stupid bull shut if she must be scum because she’s playing differently when I am trying to change my meta because I’m sick of my scum and my town play being day and night so yes maybe I’m trying to make my town Meta similar to my scum meta because I’m just sick of being transparent scum

Why would you try to emulate your scum meta here?

And if you’re town here, why would this even be a pressing concern for you in THIS game?

~NF

[butterflies]

Mala's claim doesn't look too hot. I definitely wouldn't call that a shining beacon of towniness.
~Cytosine

Go on Lim me then.

Here I’ll even help Rad’s stupid push and movement.

Once I’m dead, kill rad and then look at OTH

And then get actual fuckifn scum

Rather than go for easy fucking targets.

VOTE: Mala

Why would you self-vote here?

[butterflies]

Just vote Best Bird, they got caught awhile ago

???

Where?

[butterflies]

Vote: Drapion

I’m extremely glad you don’t have a gladiate

[butterflies]

Sorry I’m just in a foul mood

And this stupid bull shut if

she must be scum because she’s playing differently when I am trying to change my meta because I’m sick of my scum and my town play being day and night so yes maybe I’m trying to make my town Meta similar to my scum meta because I’m just sick of being transparent scum

Why would you try to emulate your scum meta here?

And if you’re town here, why would this even be a pressing concern for you in THIS game?

~NF

VOTE: Mala

This specific AtE about her being sick of being “transparent scum” makes very little sense to me, if she’s actually town here.

~N

[ProfessorDrapion]

Mala/Malcolm should contain a wolf.

[butterflies]

Mala/Malcolm should contain a wolf.

I think Mala likely is, really no idea rn about Malcolm.

~Nancyfly

[Malakittens]

Mala's claim doesn't look too hot. I definitely wouldn't call that a shining beacon of towniness.
~Cytosine

Go on Lim me then.

Here I’ll even help Rad’s stupid push and movement.

Once I’m dead, kill rad and then look at OTH

And then get actual fuckifn scum

Rather than go for easy fucking targets.

VOTE: Mala

Why would you self-vote here?

Ngl I was in a really shitty mood last night
& rad just made it worse.