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[ceejayvinoya]

To be clear T3 and Andante play like this so I don't think it's AI yet. Bloodbot's reads list is ???

This post is really tripping me up. It's like an almost blatant way of discrediting reads into them.

You point out T3 and andante's play but not the content of the play itself and the possible motivations for it.

You point out Blood's reads but didn't really speculate alignment or expand on it either.

This post is basically ???

[ceejayvinoya]

oooh you two have a deeper history than I assumed. That explains stuff.

This might also explain T3's confidence in his read on you.

Yeah. I went on hiatus around 8 months ago and this is my second game back, but I would previously often play with Andante.

I pushed Andante specifically because I knew she would generate a lot of content from my push on her, so the game would go faster.

I still think that saying you are never town for suspecting her is a stretch and that it's more likely to come from a mafia who's trying to fake a town POV.

pedit hi welcome vote andante

Is this serious?

Check this out: Galron ignoring T3's post on his early play.

[ceejayvinoya]

So sorting from this:

andante probably town.

T3 could be town?

Eiralox is town because I said so.

VOTE: froggodoggo

I wish we'd get more galron and blood posts to work with soon.

Why is Eiralox town?

quoting this so I could answer it later

[ceejayvinoya]

oooh you two have a deeper history than I assumed. That explains stuff.

This might also explain T3's confidence in his read on you.

Yeah. I went on hiatus around 8 months ago and this is my second game back, but I would previously often play with Andante.

I pushed Andante specifically because I knew she would generate a lot of content from my push on her, so the game would go faster.

I still think that saying you are never town for suspecting her is a stretch and that it's more likely to come from a mafia who's trying to fake a town POV.

pedit hi welcome vote andante

Is this serious?

Check this out: Galron ignoring T3's post on his early play.

nvm sacrap this i just got to 91

[T3]

So sorting from this:

andante probably town.

T3 could be town?

Eiralox is town because I said so.

VOTE: froggodoggo

I wish we'd get more galron and blood posts to work with soon.

Why is Eiralox town?

quoting this so I could answer it later

Oh I see.
I think I’m going to town bin Eiralox and ceejay for today?

[T3]

Townbinning Andante based on reads, scum are likely in Bloodbot, froggo, and Galron.

[T3]

Eiralox do you think ceejay is town too?

[T3]

To be clear T3 and Andante play like this so I don't think it's AI yet. Bloodbot's reads list is ???

This post is really tripping me up. It's like an almost blatant way of discrediting reads into them.

You point out T3 and andante's play but not the content of the play itself and the possible motivations for it.

You point out Blood's reads but didn't really speculate alignment or expand on it either.

This post is basically ???

Very good point - I didn’t think of that at the time but what you’re saying makes sense.

[T3]

Out of the PoE of Bloodbot, Galron, and froggo:

Weak scum
Bloodbot
Lean scum
Galron
scum
Froggo

If froggo is scum, he is scum with Galron but not bloodbot. But, bloodbot can be scum with Galron.

[ceejayvinoya]

It's funny that both of froggo's srs are those who sr him back.

I sr CJ a lot more than froggo, like why are we throwing froggo on e-1?

This is also funny because you're the one who got me into froggo being scummy

[ceejayvinoya]

Also, with a low player count, I'm thinking mafia voting their partner would be too detrimental to them because with the short game length town wouldn't have that much time to figure it out anyway.

andante: I sr CJ a lot more than froggo, like why are we throwing froggo on e-1?

Is it really that farfetched that they are both mafia?

I mean, we have just about nothing from Eira/CJ/Galron

like, CJ has only answered questions, not taking initiative to solve
Galron recently stepped it up a bit, and
Eira hasn't done ~Anything~

I'd really prefer if we actually got everyone doing stuff before we head into the night, instead of putting someone on e-1 and not announcing it as e-1... so our lovely lurking friends could show up, hammer, call it a day.

Like, Eira has NOTHING in that iso.. CJ has literally only been on defense, I haven't seen initiative to go "ok here's what I'm thinking, here's who I SR"
and Galron is a little different cause like, ehhh there's stuff there, but none of it really feels AI to me, so probably just need more time for a read there

If this is how you feel then I think you've been reading the game pretty narrowly. I got some reads I'm very comfortable with and I've done a decent amount of pushing as well.

I do agree that Galron needs some more looking in to.

[froggodoggo]

Out of the PoE of Bloodbot, Galron, and froggo:

Weak scum
Bloodbot
Lean scum
Galron
scum
Froggo

If froggo is scum, he is scum with Galron but not bloodbot. But, bloodbot can be scum with Galron.

vote galron with me

VOTE: galron

[froggodoggo]

oooh you two have a deeper history than I assumed. That explains stuff.

This might also explain T3's confidence in his read on you.

Yeah. I went on hiatus around 8 months ago and this is my second game back, but I would previously often play with Andante.

I pushed Andante specifically because I knew she would generate a lot of content from my push on her, so the game would go faster.

never saw this but T3 is town

[froggodoggo]

So sorting from this:

andante probably town.

T3 could be town?

Eiralox is town because I said so.

VOTE: froggodoggo

I wish we'd get more galron and blood posts to work with soon.

Why is Eiralox town?

quoting this so I could answer it later

Oh I see.
I think I’m going to town bin Eiralox and ceejay for today?

could you explain this to me? i believe you believe it but I would like to be convinced that the game is solved

[Aisa]

1.04

Votecount 1.04

froggodoggo (2):

T3, ceejayvinoya.

Galron (1):

froggodoggo.

ceejayvinoya (1):

Andante.

Not voting (3):

Galron, Eiralox, BloodB0t.

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-08-15 23:00:00).

flavour

Cloister attached to Narbonne Cathedral. I have a soft spot for these. Whenever I fantasise about being a priest in the Middle Ages (embarrassingly often for how unfashionable the Catholic Church is) 90% of the fantasy is looking cool walking around a cloister.

[froggodoggo]

loving the flavor aisa <3 usually i just ignore it but i like the descriptions

[froggodoggo]

everyone change your votes to Galron so we have an excuse for another VC and more flavor !

[Andante]

VOTE: Eiralox

what are you up to Eira? you just reading in the shadows? please share those reads with us

[Eiralox]

hey Andante : ) Just popped in, I'll get to doing a thorough read and responding to that last post of yours in like....2-6 hrs time. I like the shadows >.<

[T3]

If froggo is scum, he is scum with Galron but not bloodbot. But, bloodbot can be scum with Galron.

It's funny that both of froggo's srs are those who sr him back.

Immediately after these posts are made, froggo suddenly decides to vote Galron. froggo is absolutely just newbie scum flailing and making an attempt to bus his partner Galron.

[T3]

No one is hammering anyone right now. Back off people.

This is just a weak defense of froggo. Galron just says that froggo “shouldn’t be hammered” but doesn’t offer any thoughts on the froggo wagon.

[T3]

Out of the PoE of Bloodbot, Galron, and froggo:

Weak scum
Bloodbot
Lean scum
Galron
scum
Froggo

If froggo is scum, he is scum with Galron but not bloodbot. But, bloodbot can be scum with Galron.

vote galron with me

VOTE: galron

I think a Galron flip might give us more info than a froggo flip?

[T3]

Assuming for a moment that me, ceejay, and Eiralox are town, the possible teams are:

Spoiler: froggo/Bloodbot

i'll vote galron if you do @bloodb0t

I don’t think froggo and bloodbot are partnered because of this post. If froggo and bloodbot were partnered, then they would have more of a plan.

You're talking about there being too many posts for you to pay attention to any questions asked of you, and you also add totally meaningless posts. I don't get it.

I also don’t think froggo and bloodbot are partnered because of this post. Bloodbot is pointing out something that froggo is doing that doesn’t make sense. This post is scummy from Bloodbot’s side, as it is shading something NAI. However, scum Bloodbot probably doesn’t shade scum froggo for this.

maybe andante town. idk i still dont like a lot of their content but they aren't trying to murder me and this is a small game so that makes a big difference

VOTE: bloodb0t

There’s also this post, in which froggo votes Bloodbot without mentioning him at all in the post? And while Bloodbot did say stuff between this post and froggo’s previous one, Bloodbot was townreading froggo in those posts. I doubt scum froggo would do this if Bloodbot is scum.

Spoiler: froggo/Galron

froggo barely mentions Galron at all until froggo randomly decides to vote Galron. He tries to recruit me and Bloodbot into voting Galron. I can absolutely see Galron and froggo being partnered from this. The froggo wagon was gaining traction and this reads as froggo being flailing scum trying to get his partner limmed for towncred. This is further emphasized by Galron weakly defending froggo in 134, but not actually making any attempt to read froggo. Galron also weakly defends froggo in previous posts such as 85.

Spoiler: froggo/Andante

VOTE: T3

found a maf

explain?

there is no way town is legitimately callimg me maf and voting me here. at least not yet

I don't believe this is true and I am having a hard time believing that you think it is true.

Saying that town would never suspect you here implies that town should always be TRing you on the basis of your first 4 posts.

VOTE: Andante

I highly doubt that froggo and Andante are scum together. Since the start of the game froggo has been going for Andante’s head. froggo decided to unvote Andante because Andante isn’t scumreading him, which seems more like pocketing than s/s.

Spoiler: Bloodbot/Galron

They’ve both expressed weak scumreads on each other but there hasn’t been much follow-through, as Galron hasn’t posted much. Possibly scum distancing.

Spoiler: Bloodbot/Andante

Bloodbot townread Andante early for her interaction with me. Bloodbot also scumreads ceejay because of his townread on Andante. (Basically the opposite of a chainsaw.) This doesn’t make much sense if they’re partners. Andante expresses a fairly lazy townread on Bloodbot, and she doesn’t elaborate much about nor does she try to convince people Bloodbot is town, which also means that Andante and Bloodbot likely aren’t partnered.

Spoiler: Galron/Andante

They’ve barely acknowledged each other.

[T3]

So sorting from this:

andante probably town.

T3 could be town?

Eiralox is town because I said so.

VOTE: froggodoggo

I wish we'd get more galron and blood posts to work with soon.

Why is Eiralox town?

quoting this so I could answer it later

Oh I see.
I think I’m going to town bin Eiralox and ceejay for today?

could you explain this to me? i believe you believe it but I would like to be convinced that the game is solved

No point in explaining now.

[Andante]

Why are you assuming ceejay and Eira town, then your "reasoning" for 1 of the teams is "Andante and frogs are trying to kill each other so not a team" then why have it listed as a plausible team?? I'm confused by your plan here

Assuming for a moment that me, ceejay, and Eiralox are town, the possible teams are:

Spoiler: froggo/Bloodbot

i'll vote galron if you do @bloodb0t

I don’t think froggo and bloodbot are partnered because of this post. If froggo and bloodbot were partnered, then they would have more of a plan.

You're talking about there being too many posts for you to pay attention to any questions asked of you, and you also add totally meaningless posts. I don't get it.

I also don’t think froggo and bloodbot are partnered because of this post. Bloodbot is pointing out something that froggo is doing that doesn’t make sense. This post is scummy from Bloodbot’s side, as it is shading something NAI. However, scum Bloodbot probably doesn’t shade scum froggo for this.

maybe andante town. idk i still dont like a lot of their content but they aren't trying to murder me and this is a small game so that makes a big difference

VOTE: bloodb0t

There’s also this post, in which froggo votes Bloodbot without mentioning him at all in the post? And while Bloodbot did say stuff between this post and froggo’s previous one, Bloodbot was townreading froggo in those posts. I doubt scum froggo would do this if Bloodbot is scum.

Spoiler: froggo/Galron

froggo barely mentions Galron at all until froggo randomly decides to vote Galron. He tries to recruit me and Bloodbot into voting Galron. I can absolutely see Galron and froggo being partnered from this. The froggo wagon was gaining traction and this reads as froggo being flailing scum trying to get his partner limmed for towncred. This is further emphasized by Galron weakly defending froggo in 134, but not actually making any attempt to read froggo. Galron also weakly defends froggo in previous posts such as 85.

Spoiler: froggo/Andante

VOTE: T3

found a maf

explain?

there is no way town is legitimately callimg me maf and voting me here. at least not yet

I don't believe this is true and I am having a hard time believing that you think it is true.

Saying that town would never suspect you here implies that town should always be TRing you on the basis of your first 4 posts.

VOTE: Andante

I highly doubt that froggo and Andante are scum together. Since the start of the game froggo has been going for Andante’s head. froggo decided to unvote Andante because Andante isn’t scumreading him, which seems more like pocketing than s/s.

Spoiler: Bloodbot/Galron

They’ve both expressed weak scumreads on each other but there hasn’t been much follow-through, as Galron hasn’t posted much. Possibly scum distancing.

Spoiler: Bloodbot/Andante

Bloodbot townread Andante early for her interaction with me. Bloodbot also scumreads ceejay because of his townread on Andante. (Basically the opposite of a chainsaw.) This doesn’t make much sense if they’re partners. Andante expresses a fairly lazy townread on Bloodbot, and she doesn’t elaborate much about nor does she try to convince people Bloodbot is town, which also means that Andante and Bloodbot likely aren’t partnered.

Spoiler: Galron/Andante

They’ve barely acknowledged each other.