Mini Normal 2279: VGSR - GAME OVER

[Ausuka]

I'm content with my D1 vote so..
That's my today's input.

[Nero Cain]

I do townhunting rather than scumhunting quite often in games.

i see claims of townhunting come from scum way more than I do from town.

And also, it was kinda a long time ago?

That's not how cancel culture works! There's no statute of limitations on the internet.

Oh and I’m not really sure what my town meta is, I have a lot of towngames and played differently in many of them.

wasn't saying anything about your meta just that you aren't being all that proactive similar to hutmei.

[Nero Cain]

he tunnels on MND quite a bit, and I want some more elaboration on his though process with Hutmeil.

What do you think about my reasons to tunnel on MND?

I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. There's no way for me to know what Huts alignment is until he flips or is investigated. I can see how him not being proactive could be scum him sitting back and not doing anything. I was also considering deadline implications. I think when I voted we had just under 2 days left and getting him to claim and giving us time
before the deadline was something needed. a d1 nl is prob eh.

[Crescent]

I think your vote on him was rushed at best, as he wasn't even in the game for a full day before you voted him. That really isn't a long time in a game that was over a week old. People take different lengths of time to phase into a game.

It's also kinda interesting when I looked into his ISO to see him noticing quite a few of the same things that I had already written about earlier in my long post, which makes it feel more likely to me that it came from a town mindset.

[Nero Cain]

I'm impulsive, yes but I sorta hate the idea that I can't scumread a scummy slot b/c it has a new occupant.

[Mapuche Never Die]

The Crescent/Nero banter seems like T/T - their reasons for reading me both look like they come from a town POV.

[Mapuche Never Die]

28 hours left until deadline. I’m not sure if hutmeil is scum or not, but I am happy with a Greeting lim.

[Mapuche Never Die]

Actually: hutmeil’s reaction to the claim was towny, Greeting has made himself townier in the last several pages

VOTE: BBT
I propose a counterwagon.

[Nero Cain]

how dare you not know Huts alignment!

[Ausuka]

Are people really townreading that "well actually my readslist was intentionally terrible" post

[furtiveglance]

I've gone from seeing a lot of town to seeing a lot of mafia, Frogsterking, Nero Cain, BBT, Greeting. I'll vote any of these over hutmeil or MND.

[Ausuka]

I would prefer both greeting and bbt to no lim

I think I'd prefer bbt if I had to choose, he has done basically nothing for most of the game and I'm underwhelmed extremely

[furtiveglance]

Are people really townreading that "well actually my readslist was intentionally terrible" post

Which one

[Ausuka]

There have been a lot of lurkers but I expect better from BBT I guess

[Ausuka]

I like that you said this. I wanted to see how people react to a 'shitty' readlist as you said.

What else does this mean

[furtiveglance]

I like that you said this. I wanted to see how people react to a 'shitty' readlist as you said.

What else does this mean

Missed this initially, that post is quite big and I liked the updated reads.

It's unorthodox, but something I can see weird town doing.

[Nero Cain]

Nero Cain

just b/c I'm aware that you could be scum that knows we are running up town?

Even if Hut was flipped green you are still down my totem pole a bit but I think it's a solid strat to town read town and make yourself look good. I don't know why you are up in arms over this.

Are you telling me that if I town read someone that you really thought was scum you wouldn't even consider that I knew they were town?

[Ausuka]

Definitely possible, but I didn't really see anything in his ISO indicating this, and it looks made up. Hutmeil doesn't seem that weird. I'd at least want a more in depth explanation of what he was hoping to achieve and how he was thinking about the situation before writing 850.

I don't like the updated reads, really. It's better than what he did before for sure, but that's a low bar. The reads are easily faked and I don't really find them impressive.

[Nero Cain]

TBF to BBT, suspecting a player that's not posting or scumhunting isn't some crazy out there logic. I mean yeah, you could argue that he's doing that as scum but it's practically the same reason that Hut is getting run up and what people get ran up for all the time.

Juice was inactive ITG but not sitewide. I thought Juice's claim that the vote on Gandhi being an RVS vote was bullshit

Nuclear Gandhi

(3): Eiralox, Greeting, Frogsterking
inutile (3): DeltaWave, Nuclear Gandhi, Mohab500

I also feel like just trying to laugh off suspicion on you is pretty scummy.

someone scum reads me for my RVS - ROFLCOPTER

I kinda got the impression that it might be a DGB alt which would explain why it's so scummy and still have a green pm but yeah....I didn't/don't think MND is all that townie.

[furtiveglance]

Nero Cain

just b/c I'm aware that you could be scum that knows we are running up town?

Even if Hut was flipped green you are still down my totem pole a bit but I think it's a solid strat to town read town and make yourself look good. I don't know why you are up in arms over this.

Are you telling me that if I town read someone that you really thought was scum you wouldn't even consider that I knew they were town?

My problem is you're trying to have it both ways.

[Crescent]

I do see Furitive's argument here. #853 Nero insinuates he's scum with Hutmeil trying to protect him, and #868 he insinuates Furitive is scum acting under the knowledge that Hutmeil is town.

Regardless though, not really interested in a vote there today. Nero kinda just feels like he spouts everything he's thinking when he thinks it. It has better potential to be coming from a town mentality than many others.

Hut dropped a long post in #850, but didn't actually stay around. The post itself was alright, but the lack of follow up is a big concern. It feels like he just dropped everything into a single post and hoped it would be enough.

BBT has still done absolutely nothing since Juice left the game, and I'm not opposed to voting there. 2273 BBT was so much more aggressive than this it's staggering. Doesn't feel like the same player at all.

He as well as Hoppip have no posts in over 24 hours. I kinda like Hoppip's interaction with Eiralox, but I would really like to see updated reads and reactions here.


Anyways, if either Hoppip or Greeting try to idle out the day, I say kill them with fire. I don't want this day ending without some answers from the both of them. I don't like a Nero vote though.

[DeltaWave]

i'm so tired. i'm ok with the following elims today: hut, greetings, eroalox, bbt. i have not caught up with whatever happened today but im going to read it.

[DeltaWave]

hutmeil - Confirmed Town. At least that's what my PM says.

Your PM says "Confirmed Town"?

[Eiralox]

i'm so tired. i'm ok with the following elims today: hut, greetings, eroalox, bbt. i have not caught up with whatever happened today but im going to read it.

people just love to add me to these things sans reason. delta still has given no satisfactory reason for y me, same as greeting. and these three other wagons just so happen to be the ones that have traction. this post makes my tummy feel bad. well............... posts like these arent helping u in my eyes delta, u been shading me ever since our first mal-interaction and not once have I seen you with any true reasoning.


My feel on greeting stays, a good vote. bbt..... lackluster as mentioned but im not gonna vote someone on that alone. hutmeil isnt an option. anyway, im back to watching delta. have to figure this slot out a bit more tbh, the above post feels just tooo...easy.

[Eiralox]

wouldna figured it start of the game but furtive has been laying down some solid rethoric here. definitely feeling better, furtive more towny than like.... almost everyone except my three townlocks. idk.......... i mean i'd like to hear greting's take here, i'd love to hear from hutmeil, and if I have the time i might look at bbt/delta cos I think i've disregarded both slots a bit thus far.