Micro 1061: If Trees Could Scream [Game Over]

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I’m only one vote, how can I block anything?

Early game you were a UTR and you led on Titus. Repeatedly. Don't try and rewrite history, that's ubersilly.

1.final

Votecount 1.final

Titus (5):

SCRRRDBEAR, Herta, Ircher, furtiveglance, Vanderscamp -

Axed

.

Herta (3):

Titus, Porkens, Don Draper x Mistress.

Ircher (1):

Enchant.

Not Voting (0):

-

With 9 players alive, it took 5 to axe someone.

This was the eod1 wagon. Are you seriously going to accuse me of being the reasons
for these wagons?

Oh and guess what, no eod1 wagon on Porkens.

BECAUSE EVERYONE UNVOTED PORKENS SO I HAD NO CHOICE

And I forced everyone to unvote Porkens I suppose?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I’m only one vote, how can I block anything?

Early game you were a UTR and you led on Titus. Repeatedly. Don't try and rewrite history, that's ubersilly.

If everyone wanted to lim Porkens it would have happened with or without my vote.

I’m a tree, so if Porkens is arsonist it’s not me and I’m obviously never aligned with you.

If you hadn’t been mischaracterizing my earlier post as “refusing” when I didn’t and now threatening me with being a hypothetical Porkens’ buddy, I would probably be voting him now but you coming at like this has gotten me really freaked out. :/

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

If Porkens is Firefighter, yeah say that. Otherwise I'm tunnelled as hell!

@Furtive, why did you make this post if you know you’re the real ff?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

If Porkens is Firefighter, yeah say that. Otherwise I'm tunnelled as hell!

Firefighter.
N1: don
N2: vandercamp

Been playing bad on purpose to avoid getting doused

I counter claim, no notes for you though

@Furtive, you need to explain this.

[Ircher]

@Furtive what about me trying to make sense of this makes me a buddy? If you’re the real ff, then tell me who the fuck is Porkens’ buddy. There’s still two arsonists remember?

Idk who the buddy is, I was considering Ircher. But the fact that you keep repeating "oh one of these 2 is mafia then"...it's like you're dumbtelling. Hell yeah 1 of us is mafia, you should have an opinion.

I said one of you is lying and I don’t want to lim the real ff and you threatening me and intimidating me isn’t helping me one iota. I honestly don’t gaf if you don’t like it. I’m not fucking rushing this!

You keep ignoring my question. How did you go from [Me, Enchant] top town, [Ircher, Porkens] most scum to having literally no idea?

No, it’s you who is ignoring my answer. You both claimed ff and I don’t know who to believe. You can keep ignoring my answer but it’s the goddamnned truth whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you.

how can you not know who to believe, when you've had a consistent opinion all game. You must at least have some idea. You can't have zero thoughts. I'm going to bed now. I just read my own ISO and my reads were insanely good all game, it's so frustrating that I wanted Porkens D1 and D2 and you literally blocked it with a VANITY WAGON on Titus because they called you whiny or something. God DAYUM

Tbf, I'm the one who ultimately derailed the Porkens wagon Day 1 by moving my vote ~5 or so hours before deadline when the wagons were 2-2-2. I would have rather had gotten Porkens then, but I couldn't risk us no-axing.

[Ircher]

@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

If Porkens is Firefighter, yeah say that. Otherwise I'm tunnelled as hell!

@Furtive, why did you make this post if you know you’re the real ff?

I would think the simple answer is to muddy the waters a bit.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I just did extensive meta dives on both Porkens and furtive and sadly all Itook away from that is a ginormous headache. :/

[Porkens]

Oh do tell

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Oh do tell

I was looking for a game of ANY alignment where either furtive put ridiculous pressure on anyone like he did me here and a game where Porkens played similarly to this game and I couldn’t find either.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Also Porkens, you didn’t answer my question. Who is furtive’s buddy?

I’m still thinking it’s you > furtive but I’m seriously pissed at him thinking he can intimidate me into anything. I don’t allow myself to be intimidated in games or irl.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Also Porkens, you didn’t answer my question. Who is furtive’s buddy?

I’m still thinking it’s you > furtive WHO’s The ARSONIST but I’m seriously pissed at him thinking he can intimidate me into anything. I don’t allow myself to be intimidated in games or irl.

[Vanderscamp]

I'm just waiting for Don, Enchant and Vanders to vote Porkens.

He's not my top scum.

[Vanderscamp]

I disagree that Porkens should claim. Someone should just hammer.

Can you answer my question about your reads please?

[Vanderscamp]

Firefighter.
N1: don
N2: vandercamp

Been playing bad on purpose to avoid getting doused

Why would you claim your protects?

[Vanderscamp]

Don Draper x Mistress, I'm going to have to threaten you with the word 'paired' to make you vote Porkens. Because your progression is ridiculous. 1) Having me as top town all game and 2) Having Porkens as a scumread, "oh I'm not refusing to vote them I just prefer Ircher" etc. Give me a break. How are you now saying you can't decide between us and want to vote someone else? This is complete BS.

You can threaten me all you like. I won’t be intimidated into voting until I make sense of this.

That's the thing, your projected gameview is completely dysfunctional - not just inconsistent, but you never signposted when your thoughts apparently (must have) changed from having me way above Porkens to having us literally equal. And the fact that you won't even explain it now is not a good look.

How can you seriously accuse Don of being scum here, especially given what Ircher is currently posting?

[Vanderscamp]

@furtive, tell me who you think is Porkens’ buddy?

@Porkens, answer me the same thing wrt to furtuve.

Prob Ircher or the bear

Why couldn't I be with porkens?

[Vanderscamp]

@Furtive what about me trying to make sense of this makes me a buddy? If you’re the real ff, then tell me who the fuck is Porkens’ buddy. There’s still two arsonists remember?

Idk who the buddy is, I was considering Ircher. But the fact that you keep repeating "oh one of these 2 is mafia then"...it's like you're dumbtelling. Hell yeah 1 of us is mafia, you should have an opinion.

I said one of you is lying and I don’t want to lim the real ff and you threatening me and intimidating me isn’t helping me one iota. I honestly don’t gaf if you don’t like it. I’m not fucking rushing this!

You keep ignoring my question. How did you go from [Me, Enchant] top town, [Ircher, Porkens] most scum to having literally no idea?

Both of you claimed ff and I don’t know who to believe rn. If there was only one arsonist lef it would be different but there’s two and I think it’s just safer to lim the other one today but I want to first hear from Enchant, Vanderscamp and Scrrrbear and optimally Herta and Titus.

You trying to push me is just having the exact opposite effect.

Yeah I completely agree with you.

I do think porkens is scummier than Furtive but I still don't have furtive as town and I think furtive as mafia would CC porkens 100% of the time in this spot.

I have pretty big issues with porkens' "I intentionally played bad to not get doused, here are my protects, whoops I shouldn't have said that" play, but I think Ircher is even scummier.

I'm also not sure how much merit the idea of leaving the firefighter alive has, almost definitely non-zero which is enough to make me lean towards not solving it if the outside pool is obvious, and to me it is pretty obvious, you're like 99+% town to me and the only question mark is BEAR who is vastly less scummy than Ircher here, and I don't like that Ircher is pushing hard on porkens.

[Vanderscamp]

It's probably either Ircher/furtive or bear/porkens here

[Vanderscamp]

Like, very likely

[Vanderscamp]

Again, Ircher, I'm very interested to know how I went from top town to mildly scummy.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Porkens

If we lose, we lose.

[Aisa]

I just read my own ISO and my reads were insanely good all game, it's so frustrating that I wanted Porkens D1 and D2 and you literally blocked it with a VANITY WAGON on Titus because they called you whiny or something. God DAYUM

This veers into personal attack territory. Please don't do it again.

To be clear, it is acceptable to say that someone's emotions may be affecting their judgment, but please do not imply that being affected by the usage of words such as "whiny" is vain.

[Aisa]

3.final

Votecount 3.final

Porkens (4):

furtiveglance, Ircher, SCRRRDBEAR, Enchant -

Axed

.

furtiveglance (1):

Porkens.

Ircher (1):

Vanderscamp.

Not Voting (1):

Don Draper x Mistress.

Tree-stumps:

Titus, Herta.

With 7 players alive, it took 4 to axe someone.

[Aisa]

Axing

Pacifist Tree has been telling everyone to stop stabbing each other. "Love... thy fellow Tree..."

He's just finished talking a Tree down from slapping his neighbour when someone swings an axe at a human passerby, Porkens. "D- did you just move?! I'msosorry!! Didn't know you could talk, if I did I would have gone somewhere else to, uh... nevermind probably best that you don't hear this part!"

Porkens runs off away from the Forest, clutching a wounded arm. In their haste, they drop a can of gasoline on the ground.

Porkens has been axed! They were...

Spoiler:

an

Arsonist

.

This means that...

Spoiler:

they have left the game and may no longer post in the game thread.

Night 3

Night 3 begins now and ends in (expired on 2022-10-22 11:35:00).

Submit any Night Actions by PM, or in an acceptable PT. I will not require Tree-stump approval to grant a fast Night.

[Aisa]

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