Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[MegAzumarill]

VC 2.0.1



MMR (4) Mastina, Radical Rat, Yume, scarfmanship [E-4]

furtiveglance (2) Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, unwnd
past Present Future(2) Toogeloo, Enchant

Toogeloo (1) furtiveglance,

Not Voting (7) Ydrasse, MMR, Firebringer, Mathblade, T-Bone, Past Present Future

Deadline: (expired on 2022-11-14 21:51:23)
With 15 alive it takes 8 to eliminate.

[MathBlade]

I am interested in that too because I didn’t say how my role relates to alignments.

I was hoping to pressure MMR when they came online next.

Nothing was confirmed by anyone in thread.

Yeah, that’s an interesting point, I guess it’s possible they could be scum here.

That slot claimed to hard tr us before that, so it’s super weird.

There’s weird on your slot and MMR.

I figure instead of screaming one of y’all has to be scum, both y’all can be sorted with civil conversation.

[Scarfmanship]

UNVOTE:

[Past Present Future]

I am interested in that too because I didn’t say how my role relates to alignments.

I was hoping to pressure MMR when they came online next.

Nothing was confirmed by anyone in thread.

Yeah, that’s an interesting point, I guess it’s possible they could be scum here.

That slot claimed to hard tr us before that, so it’s super weird.

There’s weird on your slot and MMR.

I figure instead of screaming one of y’all has to be scum, both y’all can be sorted with civil conversation.

How is that weird on us?

[MathBlade]

I am interested in that too because I didn’t say how my role relates to alignments.

I was hoping to pressure MMR when they came online next.

Nothing was confirmed by anyone in thread.

Yeah, that’s an interesting point, I guess it’s possible they could be scum here.

That slot claimed to hard tr us before that, so it’s super weird.

There’s weird on your slot and MMR.

I figure instead of screaming one of y’all has to be scum, both y’all can be sorted with civil conversation.

How is that weird on us?

There is weird [things in general] on your slot and MMR.

[MathBlade]

@mastina - I read your long post.

It is logically sound in that I don’t see three players being intentionally bad with mechanics.

However by the same token I disagree that it’d be a mistake at all of MMR scum.

For the same reason it’s unlikely a mistake it’s also unlikely a scum gambit either as all three heads would have to agree to something silly.

I wish they’d come online and explain it.

[MathBlade]

At the same token of three heads not making a mistake

On the other side you have three + X (where X = size of scum team) heads reviewing a scum gambit plan and going “Yep sounds good”.

There’s definitely something weird here.

[MathBlade]

Let’s have PPF and MMR give overviews of the whole game.

Yes I know Nancy isn’t willing

But I hope Titus and the MMR heads are

By getting people talking about other slots we can solve the pair I think. Plus if anyone is scum it gives good spew.

If you’re absolutely certain one slot is scum then include it in your list please than clogging up the thread.

[Past Present Future]

I know I promised reads but IRL sadness has me tonight. Can't focus on reads atm. I think I'll be fine tomorrow.

~Titus

[Toogeloo]

I just saw the player list and realized that not only do we have a lot of Hydra, as Math pointed out, they are pretty big. I've never honestly been a fan of hydrae, tbqh.

I'd like to hear Firebringer's thoughts from the similar school of, "I'm not reading Day 1," as me. See if we are n'sync.

[MMR]

It isn't a scumclaim.
It isn't impossible for PPF to Town Ascetic or if we got blocked.
The Loyal modifier doesn't make PPF scum unless it can be proven that the above was false.
-Rubella

Shouldn't the most obvious solution be pursued first?

That's what my hydra partners think.
-Rubella

[MMR]

VOTE: MMR

Hypothetically possible you were blocked, but in that case why claim at all?

If you're not sure your check went through, and you townread the target enough to discard the maybe-guilty on those grounds, why wouldn't you just try again later before claiming?

I wanted to see everybody's reaction.
And I think that mastina slipped having a similar role.
-Rubella

[MathBlade]

VOTE: MMR

Hypothetically possible you were blocked, but in that case why claim at all?

If you're not sure your check went through, and you townread the target enough to discard the maybe-guilty on those grounds, why wouldn't you just try again later before claiming?

I wanted to see everybody's reaction.
And I think that mastina slipped having a similar role.
-Rubella

I don’t know if Rubella is trying to fake a tell at this point or just not reading.
Mastina is claimed a similar role to yours.
She can’t slip anything. Either she is what she claimed or isn’t.

[MathBlade]

Also what makes you think my role is “confirmed” to have something to do with alignments?

[MMR]

Also what makes you think my role is “confirmed” to have something to do with alignments?

Meg's announcement that you would've vanillaised the Solar Cult if you had been eliminated in the place of Bunny.
PPF's D1 push means that it's unlikely that they're Solar.
I know this doesn't make them conftown or confscum.
-Rubella

[MMR]

And, when did mastina claim?
I missed pretty much everything that happened in D1 since my V/LA began.
-Rubella

[MMR]

Also, why are there people assuming that we're mech whizzes?
-Rubella

[MathBlade]

And, when did mastina claim?
I missed pretty much everything that happened in D1 since my V/LA began.
-Rubella

She hard tunnelled me.
She messed up badly (regardless of alignment) and she needed to claim.
What makes you think my role is “confirmable” to have something to do with alignments if you didn’t read?

[MathBlade]

Oh you mean that announcement…that’s a stretch :/

[MMR]

Oh you mean that announcement…that’s a stretch :/

It was mostly the idea of Mumps.
He wanted to see if PPF was Town or Lunar. (He strongly believed that PPF couldn't be Solar.)
-Rubella

[MMR]

I hope that this makes it more clear why we ended up targetting PPF.
T-Bone would've been my pick for a target.
-Rubella

[MathBlade]

Can Mumps please explain it then?

I’d also love if you could say a few sentences about each player?

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Eh, in with math here: I think a lot of mastinas initial premises are correct but not all the conclusions.

I strongly also agree that mmr's reading of the announcement shouldn't make anyone think our and maths slots are confirmable,or even necessarily that it confirms (mech wise) either of our slots as 'town" or 'prs'.

Way too much noise from some slots about the bunny elim when it was really clearly a compromise. We spent too much of yesterday not progressing but I do think today is already better.

I discussed the result of MMR with klick and his take was basically that either or both slots could be scum. He thinks Nancy could be doing what she's doing from either role and I'm still banging the 'i feel ok reading Titus but I dont have enough from that head' drum. Basically , I just agree with math a lot, which is ....fun

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Out if the votes on MMR, my biggest scum read is unwind. Haven't checked this with klick but today's Poe outside of whatever is happening with MMR/PPF is unwind, RR and furtive.

B

[MathBlade]

Eh, in with math here: I think a lot of mastinas initial premises are correct but not all the conclusions.

I strongly also agree that mmr's reading of the announcement shouldn't make anyone think our and maths slots are confirmable,or even necessarily that it confirms (mech wise) either of our slots as 'town" or 'prs'.

Way too much noise from some slots about the bunny elim when it was really clearly a compromise. We spent too much of yesterday not progressing but I do think today is already better.

I discussed the result of MMR with klick and his take was basically that either or both slots could be scum. He thinks Nancy could be doing what she's doing from either role and I'm still banging the 'i feel ok reading Titus but I dont have enough from that head' drum. Basically , I just agree with math a lot, which is ....fun

I don’t know whether or not to be super happy or super worried but I’ll take it.

I think PPF and MMR should talk broadly about the game as a whole. Ideally a summarized version of the heads (or as close as possible noting divergence) I don’t want this to be a tunnel day.

I will kick the ball off:

If MMR is scum I think we are looking at some quieter players for buddies
If PPF is scum we’d be looking at a Yume/Mastina/someone vocal crowd.

Sound idea? Agree or disagree?

And please don’t say “I think MMR/PPF is town with a readwall why” This is about generating possible/probable words. If you can’t do that then just either ignore the post or say you can’t.