Community | Day 1

[furtiveglance]

I have reviewed the thread and have a full team solve virtue of you guys being really easy reads.

In case anyone's confused this isn't a reaction test, I do have a full team solve I expect to be roughly 2/3 precise. I'm clarifying it's not a reaction test specifically because I know that no one interprets me to be joking because I'm sharp enough to realize a player who claims to think I'm joking is unlikely to be the telling the truth.

Go on then, who's mafia?

[Frogsterking]

I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.

rcan you please explain what you mean by “make posts AI in your head?”

I tend to think that most posts are probably NAI, at the end of the day. But particularly in the early game I think it’s helpful to think about whether particular posts are more likely from town, and to push on anything that might be from scum. For the posts made thus far, I had some thoughts along the lines of “this could be from town”, but then also counter-arguments in my head about why what I thought was town, wasn’t necessarily.

For example, I agree that Star Power’s post isn’t particularly indicative of scum, but I also can’t townread that post. In the end it’s just a colourful way of saying “let’s kill scum!”

IMO I don't think you are a dull player so if you haven't seen anything suspicious yet then I think you should reread and be more open to being skeptical and critical of others. I think the idea of whether or not most posts are NAI is tricky. In this particular game I believe that a lot more AI content than usual has been created.

[The Bombay]

I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.

rcan you please explain what you mean by “make posts AI in your head?”

I tend to think that most posts are probably NAI, at the end of the day. But particularly in the early game I think it’s helpful to think about whether particular posts are more likely from town, and to push on anything that might be from scum. For the posts made thus far, I had some thoughts along the lines of “this could be from town”, but then also counter-arguments in my head about why what I thought was town, wasn’t necessarily.

For example, I agree that Star Power’s post isn’t particularly indicative of scum, but I also can’t townread that post. In the end it’s just a colourful way of saying “let’s kill scum!”

IMO I don't think you are a dull player so if you haven't seen anything suspicious yet then I think you should reread and be more open to being skeptical and critical of others. I think the idea of whether or not most posts are NAI is tricky. In this particular game I believe that a lot more AI content than usual has been created.

can you vote kokabiel

-marci

[Frogsterking]

I have reviewed the thread and have a full team solve virtue of you guys being really easy reads.

In case anyone's confused this isn't a reaction test, I do have a full team solve I expect to be roughly 2/3 precise. I'm clarifying it's not a reaction test specifically because I know that no one interprets me to be joking because I'm sharp enough to realize a player who claims to think I'm joking is unlikely to be the telling the truth.

Go on then, who's mafia?

It's a good question but I'm going to be cagey for a little while and see what people do. I promise to out my reads sooner than I did in that Mini Normal we played though, I waited way too long in that game. I'll also remind you when I did finally out my reads on D1, Hoppip/Delta/Nuclear Gandhi was 2/3 correct. I found Hoppip/Delta right away so there was no real benefit there to waiting so long which my intuition says will be similar to this game. At this point I feel confident that I found 2 group scum already and no matter how much I flail and gnash my teeth I will be unlikely to pin down the third, though I can narrow it down quite a bit.

FWIW I believe #75 above is more likely to come from Resident/Dictator than group scum.

I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.

rcan you please explain what you mean by “make posts AI in your head?”

I tend to think that most posts are probably NAI, at the end of the day. But particularly in the early game I think it’s helpful to think about whether particular posts are more likely from town, and to push on anything that might be from scum. For the posts made thus far, I had some thoughts along the lines of “this could be from town”, but then also counter-arguments in my head about why what I thought was town, wasn’t necessarily.

For example, I agree that Star Power’s post isn’t particularly indicative of scum, but I also can’t townread that post. In the end it’s just a colourful way of saying “let’s kill scum!”

IMO I don't think you are a dull player so if you haven't seen anything suspicious yet then I think you should reread and be more open to being skeptical and critical of others. I think the idea of whether or not most posts are NAI is tricky. In this particular game I believe that a lot more AI content than usual has been created.

can you vote kokabiel

-marci

I'm being cagey right now, sorry.

#77 above is more likely to come from Resident.

[Frogsterking]

Softclaim present.

VOTE: johnny

Hello everyone! I am here, ready to be a shining light against the delegation!

VOTE: DeasVail

I'm gonna need coffee.

Time's up, Herta. I need you to stop thread flaking and write a reads list now.

[DeasVail]

I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.

rcan you please explain what you mean by “make posts AI in your head?”

I tend to think that most posts are probably NAI, at the end of the day. But particularly in the early game I think it’s helpful to think about whether particular posts are more likely from town, and to push on anything that might be from scum. For the posts made thus far, I had some thoughts along the lines of “this could be from town”, but then also counter-arguments in my head about why what I thought was town, wasn’t necessarily.

For example, I agree that Star Power’s post isn’t particularly indicative of scum, but I also can’t townread that post. In the end it’s just a colourful way of saying “let’s kill scum!”

IMO I don't think you are a dull player so if you haven't seen anything suspicious yet then I think you should reread and be more open to being skeptical and critical of others. I think the idea of whether or not most posts are NAI is tricky. In this particular game I believe that a lot more AI content than usual has been created.

can you vote kokabiel

-marci

Why didn’t you ask me?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Softclaim present.

VOTE: johnny

I have read this a few times and I still don't fully understand it

[The Bombay]

I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.

rcan you please explain what you mean by “make posts AI in your head?”

I tend to think that most posts are probably NAI, at the end of the day. But particularly in the early game I think it’s helpful to think about whether particular posts are more likely from town, and to push on anything that might be from scum. For the posts made thus far, I had some thoughts along the lines of “this could be from town”, but then also counter-arguments in my head about why what I thought was town, wasn’t necessarily.

For example, I agree that Star Power’s post isn’t particularly indicative of scum, but I also can’t townread that post. In the end it’s just a colourful way of saying “let’s kill scum!”

IMO I don't think you are a dull player so if you haven't seen anything suspicious yet then I think you should reread and be more open to being skeptical and critical of others. I think the idea of whether or not most posts are NAI is tricky. In this particular game I believe that a lot more AI content than usual has been created.

can you vote kokabiel

-marci

Why didn’t you ask me?

can you vote kokabiel?

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: pengy

Ngl I kinda like that this community is in a lil turmoil if this is how we treat foreigners

what does this mean?

A bit of partner equity with Fruitofelegance and Deasnutz here, because this seems like a straightforward joke to me in context, so maybe deas just isn't reading furfurs posts?

That or my humor isn't clear

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm trying to make posts made so far AI in my head, but I'm not really coming up with much.

Must be scum out of ideas.

This is also what I thought. It seems like DeasVail is playing from the point of view of someone who is looking over posts with a checklist of tells to appear useful, rather than engaging in actual solving.

VOTE: DeasVail

Maybe but why them specifically over hmm...basically everyone else, excluding Bombay and maybe Bell. Rest of us weren't exactly overtly solving stuff.

PS: I'm taking frogsterking's readings on page 1 as a joke, not them being serious

I thought I'd played with a Flavia before, the name sounds familiar, but this account is brand new? Am I high?

[Kokabiel]

VOTE: kokabiel

Spoiler:

-Marci

Awww how cute~

can you vote kokabiel

-marci

This, on the other hand, is NOT cute at all. I fail to see how calling acquaintances to join a... RVS? vote is town behavior.
I doubt scum would blatantly call their buddies like this so thats one association down.

Why didn’t you ask me?

can you vote kokabiel?

Yuck. Can totes see this as a scum theater.

[Kokabiel]

VOTE: Bombay

[Frogsterking]

Kookaburra, Why are you pretending to evaluate marci asking me to join her wagon as non SvS whereas you evaluate her doing the same thing to Dease as likely to be SvS? It's not because Johnny recently posted some reasons to be suspicious of Dease and you're hoping to fuel a TvT between them, is it?

[Andresvmb]

Hey all. It’s good to be here. I’ll do a quick read, catch up, and put a preliminary vote down. Once I’ve done that, I’ll go to sleep. Expect more from me tomorrow.

[Kokabiel]

Kookaburra, Why are you pretending to evaluate marci asking me to join her wagon as non SvS whereas you evaluate her doing the same thing to Dease as likely to be SvS? It's not because Johnny recently posted some reasons to be suspicious of Dease and you're hoping to fuel a TvT between them, is it?

I'm going to assume this is meant for me.
What do you mean by pretend? Why didn't you ask why Marci pretended to do an honest work?
The difference is that Marci invited you, whereas Dease invited himself. Marci can invite anyone, so how would that make it SvS?
Johnny's reasoning on Dease is flawed because scum don't need to pretend to be scumhunting this game. The only question is why Dease thinks he needs to make AI reads so soon, which i don't find AI in itself.

[JohnnyFarrar]

scum don't need to pretend to be scumhunting this game

Huh? What do you know that I dont

[Kokabiel]

Setup

General Information

• This is a Large Theme themed around a group of militants and a government operative.
  
• The
  Residents
  are the uninformed majority and the
  Delegation
  is the informed minority.
  
• There is a
  Government
  operative who is
  Antisocial
  . If they win, all other players will lose.
  
• The setup does not meet
  Normal Guidelines
  but has no
  Bastard
  elements.
  
• Multitasking
  and
  Daytalk
  is enabled by default.

Probably this?

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: Bombay

VOTE: Passenger

[Andresvmb]

^I didn’t mean to quote that post. It’s irrelevant to the vote.

[Andresvmb]

59 is over-explainy. Which is the only reason I’m putting this vote down. I’m not buying Scum enters the thread and basically says I can’t find ways to contribute. I would probably spam or act silly before I admit that I am not actively contributing to solving. That’s my perspective so obviously won’t apply across the board. But that’s all I got. So I think Passenger is trying to justify a vote with too many words when there’s no way you can make that long a case about anyone.

[Andresvmb]

Anyway, I’m going to sleep. I’m back tomorrow.

[Frogsterking]

Kookaburra, Why are you pretending to evaluate marci asking me to join her wagon as non SvS whereas you evaluate her doing the same thing to Dease as likely to be SvS? It's not because Johnny recently posted some reasons to be suspicious of Dease and you're hoping to fuel a TvT between them, is it?

I'm going to assume this is meant for me.
What do you mean by pretend? Why didn't you ask why Marci pretended to do an honest work?
The difference is that Marci invited you, whereas Dease invited himself. Marci can invite anyone, so how would that make it SvS?
Johnny's reasoning on Dease is flawed because scum don't need to pretend to be scumhunting this game. The only question is why Dease thinks he needs to make AI reads so soon, which i don't find AI in itself.

I don't understand

1) why I would ask marci that question,
2) why Dease inviting himself is SvS
3) why scum don't need to pretend to be scumhunting
4) how you expect any of the three questions you directed toward me to lead to me saying something AI.

I suggest you help me understand because like most people I attack what I don't understand.

[Frogsterking]

59 is over-explainy. Which is the only reason I’m putting this vote down. I’m not buying Scum enters the thread and basically says I can’t find ways to contribute. I would probably spam or act silly before I admit that I am not actively contributing to solving. That’s my perspective so obviously won’t apply across the board. But that’s all I got. So I think Passenger is trying to justify a vote with too many words when there’s no way you can make that long a case about anyone.

I was also wondering this and came to the conclusion that they came across as over explainy in 59 because they were prompted to write 59 from a stilted and unnatural question+source.

[Kokabiel]

I don't understand

1) why I would ask marci that question,

I don't understand why you think i was pretending, but didn't think why Marci was pretending with a naked vote.

2) why Dease inviting himself is SvS

The dialogue felt fake to me. Dease is being FOS now so him starting a wagon without actually committing to it is not town behavior.

3) why scum don't need to pretend to be scumhunting

This was answered already

4) how you expect any of the three questions you directed toward me to lead to me saying something AI.

It is up to me to judge whether your reactions and posts are AI, not you.

[Herta]

Softclaim present.

VOTE: johnny

Hello everyone! I am here, ready to be a shining light against the delegation!

VOTE: DeasVail

I'm gonna need coffee.

Time's up, Herta. I need you to stop thread flaking and write a reads list now.

Rude.