Mini 760 - Bleach Mafia: Karakura Town - Game Over!

[Albert B. Rampage]

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Hi. It looks like I will be connected for the next thirty minutes or so if you would like to give me something to respond to.

If Phily were here I'm sure he would ask you a million questions. But, as I'm not him, I'm just going to vie for the quicklynch shoot first ask questions later plan.

L-2 means that there still needs to be three votes before that player is lynched. That's a lot. Please place your vote where your suspicion lies.

No, L-2 is two votes away from a lynch.
L-3 is what X is currently at, three votes before a lynch, with 2/5 currently on X.

Mastin, as you get better, I hope you learn to concentrate on posts and quotes that help town find scum. Focusing on what's important....Ford Focus. And don't be anal.

[Gorrad]

Unvote, Vote: Xtoxm

for three reasons:

First off, what ABR said.

Second, any smart cop would claim if they had a guilty on someone. Remember that old saying, one town for one scum is always a good trade? It's true. If he had a guilty, he'd likely bloody well say so.

Third, Policy.

As far as Mastin goes, it's very possible that the mod gave the 'Kon' fakeclaim knowing that Mastin's role would back it up. When I wrote Death Note Mafia (And I'm going to be bringing this game up a lot due to similarities) I put only one member of the Kira Insvestigation Team (Matsuda) as a role and put the others as fakeclaims, despite their fitting the flavor well, with Matsuda there to make them seem more likely.

Also, keep in mind that, due to Philly's Role, we may well be looking at multiple mafias. Normally, I might think that the role simply meant that Philly couldn't find the SK, but as the SK's ALSO a hollow I think we may be looking at either a non-Hollow mafia partner (given flavor of "Hollow Mafia", unlikely) or another anti-town altogether.

[Korlash]

Also, keep in mind that, due to Philly's Role, we may well be looking at multiple mafias. Normally, I might think that the role simply meant that Philly couldn't find the SK, but as the SK's ALSO a hollow I think we may be looking at either a non-Hollow mafia partner (given flavor of "Hollow Mafia", unlikely) or another anti-town altogether.

If we are looking at multiple mafia's they suck as in two nights they have made a combined total of 1 kill.

I think it's more likely called "hollow cop" becuase he probably got his results as "hollow" or "Not hollow" and it could be that he COULD find the SK, to my knowledge most normally cops won't find the SK, so bybeing a hollow cop his role both found mafia and the SK through investigations.

The way the flavor was worded was almost an exact match to the flavor wording in my PM.
I raise this point in my document.

... Worded? Was it one word, or multiple? Was it phrases or simple words? And have you at least explained to yourself why any matching words in your PM might have also been given to Kon? I mean let's say hypothetically the word is "Spirit threads" then sure, I can get the match. but if the word is "Backpack" I can't honestly get how you felt that confirmed him.

There's no way to give flavor without claiming, to my knowledge.

It's possible... But I wouldn't suggest it. Don't misunderstand my other post, I did fuly intend to try and make you claim as well, but as I no longer 'need' the flavor I don't need the claim either.

[Mastin]

As far as Mastin goes, it's very possible that the mod gave the 'Kon' fakeclaim knowing that Mastin's role would back it up.

I seriously doubt it. I think he just got lucky with a falseclaim...

due to Philly's Role, we may well be looking at multiple mafias

A theory which I have typed up is the possibility of there being a mafia traitor who was targeted night one as well. This is Bleach--we know the mafia are hollows, yet because of the...complex...interactions between Hollows, anything could be possible.

but as the SK's ALSO a hollow I think we may be looking at either a non-Hollow mafia partner (given flavor of "Hollow Mafia", unlikely) or another anti-town altogether.

There are foils for this.
1: My traitor theory,
2: Mafia godfathers
3: Non-hollow mafia. We don't know for certain that Phil's killer was a hollow--

"Enemy detected..." you hear, in a familiar yet otherworldly voice. Is that PhilyEc? He sounds almost detached. Then the sounds of battle ensue.

Nowhere does it say hollow.

[Gorrad]

Also, keep in mind that, due to Philly's Role, we may well be looking at multiple mafias. Normally, I might think that the role simply meant that Philly couldn't find the SK, but as the SK's ALSO a hollow I think we may be looking at either a non-Hollow mafia partner (given flavor of "Hollow Mafia", unlikely) or another anti-town altogether.

If we are looking at multiple mafia's they suck as in two nights they have made a combined total of 1 kill.

I think it's more likely called "hollow cop" becuase he probably got his results as "hollow" or "Not hollow" and it could be that he COULD find the SK, to my knowledge most normally cops won't find the SK, so bybeing a hollow cop his role both found mafia and the SK through investigations.

Ah! All right, I can see that.

[Mastin]

I prefer typing things at night, you know, when not many people are on--so that I don't post and miss another post and all that. >_>

... Worded? Was it one word, or multiple? Was it phrases or simple words?

The way it was phrased seemed almost an exact match to the way my role PM is phrased. I believed the claim was paraphrased because of how similar it was.

[Korlash]

I seriously doubt it. I think he just got lucky with a falseclaim...

I love it when people ignore the most obvious fact and instead choose to use wishful thinking that the guy 'just got lucky'. Fake claims are a big part of most theme games... i cannot stress that enough.

1: My traitor theory,
2: Mafia godfathers
3: Non-hollow mafia. We don't know for certain that Phil's killer was a hollow--

I don't see how the traitor explains Philly's role, a godfather would still probably be a hollow so it makes no sense either, and do you have any examples of non-hollow mafias that could be in this game? Aside from Uryu, who I highly doub is an anti-town force, I can't think of any non-hollow scum characters that make sense being here.

Nowhere does it say hollow.

No duh... The mod isn't going to tell us stuff like that. All evidence so far points to the scum being hollows, so that's a perfectly logical assumption. On another note, why are you bringing up "phillys killer" instead of just saying "mafia" do you know something we don't? It seems odd you would say it that way... almost like you know the mafia wasn't responcible for it...

The way it was phrased seemed almost an exact match to the way my role PM is phrased. I believed the claim was paraphrased because of how similar it was.

So you believed it was paraphrased, which means he changed it, and the changed form matched your Flavor so because it matched and you feel it was paraphrase you know it doesn't really match.. so you believed it? I don't think I'm getting something...

[Gorrad]

1: My traitor theory,
2: Mafia godfathers
3: Non-hollow mafia. We don't know for certain that Phil's killer was a hollow--

I don't see how the traitor explains Philly's role, a godfather would still probably be a hollow so it makes no sense either, and do you have any examples of non-hollow mafias that could be in this game? Aside from Uryu, who I highly doub is an anti-town force, I can't think of any non-hollow scum characters that make sense being here.

Aisen and his lot.

[Xtoxm]

Whatever just lynch me

[Albert B. Rampage]

Whatever just lynch me

Unleash the dogs on this man, for his has confessed to his devil-worshiping ways.

[Gorrad]

Whatever just lynch me

Claim?

[Xtoxm]

It won't save me and making it public helps scum more than town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

All right guys, it looks like we've patiently exhausted all our questions. I want to see three votes and a lock by the end of the week.

[Korlash]

Aisen and his lot.

In karakuta town? *slap* Bad Gorrad... bad...

[Gorrad]

Aisen and his lot.

In karakuta town? *slap* Bad Gorrad... bad...

Right. They weren't around for Karakuta...

Still might be in the game : P. But yeah, I guess not likely.

[Xtoxm]

You can have my character, i'm Don Kanonji. I'm not saying any more than that. If you want to lynch me I can't stop you.

[Korlash]

See Don Kanonji is the best choice for a secondary non-hollow scum based soley on th fact he half created a hollow in the show. he's also in the list of secondary near-safe claims along with Kon, although that alone doesn't make it fake. I am currently sitting on a list of the most likely 10 town characters, of that I only assume we have 8 town roles, meaning two of them are likely not in the game. And With Don Kanonji not even being a part of that list it makes him even less likely to be in the game.

I can't understand why you won't claim if you really are town though. Just giving a name like this will probably hurt you more in the long run then help you...

[Xtoxm]

Don always had good intentions, town is the only thing he could be.

Stop trying to out wifom the mod.

[Korlash]

I don't out wifom the mod, I analyse flavor.

[Green Crayons]

Just stopping in to say I don't like the Xtox hate.

I'm sure at least one scum is on his wagon at the moment - I just hate that both Korlash and Gorrad joined.

Still doing reads and such.

[ZEEnon]

Busy right now. Please don't lynch Xtoxm until I post. I have reasons to believe his claim~

[Albert B. Rampage]

What's up with everyone putting crow bars in this bandwagon's wheels? Its obvious that he's scum.

[ZEEnon]

Albert B. Rampage, please wait. I'll explain as much as I can.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You test my patience, young one. I will wait to see what you have to say, but realize that any flavor-based reason will be disregarded by this court.

[Korlash]

You know for a game full of "Man I think Korlash and/or Gorrad is scum!" There really isn't a lot being done about it... i mean I don't mind being called a scum suspect or being linked to Gorrad or anything but to waste all this time constantly saying one of us is scum andnever doing anything about seems... well dumb...

@Zee: Just how long does it take to explain? Is this an epic story? I mean... wouldn't it just have been as easy to not make two posts telling us you're going to explain and just say it? I honestly can't imagine you would know anyhing that would take more then a paragraph to explain it...