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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2005 1:50 am

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I think the best option is to revert this, and go directly into night. It is not a good solution, but it is not the worst either. I think that would be the most balanced way of continuing with the game. The harm has already been done, and the only way to fix it would be to restart the game fully, which I think is not a good idea at this point.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2005 2:23 am

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Well, my guess would be that puzzle quoted his role and got made SK for it.
If he indeed quoted his role, he should be mod-killed and the game continued.

If not, I suggest you retract his becoming SK and continue. Seems the least disruptive, as it's still unclear what he was previously to becoming SK. Reshuffeling roles would give people meta-info they shouldn't have about other roles.

And I don't want to abandon the game outright.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2005 3:58 am

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Nanook
, I don't think this should be decided by the players in the game. I encourage you to PM some experienced mods and get their opinions.

Sorry, I'll post more content-wise later.

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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2005 5:26 am

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it's just a game...

kill puzzle, go to night..

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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2005 6:47 am

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I guess there's no point in thinking about content until this is resolved. I think the simplest solution is simply to kill off Puzzle and continue the game...I think this is the only way to preseve game integrity, and only Puzzle is screwed by the deal (sorry Puzzle).

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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2005 6:59 am

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mathcam wrote:I guess there's no point in thinking about content until this is resolved. I think the simplest solution is simply to kill off Puzzle and continue the game...I think this is the only way to preseve game integrity, and only Puzzle is screwed by the deal (sorry Puzzle).

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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2005 7:55 am

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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Thu May 05, 2005 8:28 am

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Alright, I've got a reply from a couple mods that I respect and they all have agreed that I should just be rid of Puzzle right now. I'm sorry that I had to do it this way, but it really is the only way, and it sucks that a player has to pay for my mistake.

Puzzle the Lady has been lynched


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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2005 1:40 pm

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Zippy and Axelrod will be unable to continue in the tournament as they have both been found dead this morning ...

Zippy was John Herod the mafia godfather, (Also your tournament sponsor btw) .. Don't worry the money hasn't gone anywhere.

Axelrod was Spotted Horse, Another townie with a little extra dueling capabilities.


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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2005 2:46 pm

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hmm...well that really depletes my list of suspicions...need to reread now, although i'm still bit suspicious of coron, it's not worth following up until i'm sure that's who i think is scum.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2005 3:56 pm

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Wow, that was quick, so
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2005 4:16 pm

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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2005 4:49 pm

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lol, Nanook imed me to tell me his games were back up, seeing as I'm in two of them. So I knew to check them, and I had something to say here.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2005 4:50 pm

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I really don't think anyone should name claim anymore, unless you're darn sure you won't become evil.

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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2005 5:33 pm

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hmmm, interesting...anyone wanna reveal their name and tell us if they become SKs to test this? :P
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Fri May 06, 2005 10:11 pm

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I could see the Kid becoming a SK, seeing how the Lady became one. This is just speculation, but perhaps this is the way the "last man standing wins" works?
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Also, I am suspicious of SquareKnight, if only because he is the only one to have claimed a generic role. Any other gerneric roleclaims, and I will remove my suspicion, but right now I think it is most likely he is one of Herod´s thugs. I consider him the best candidate to duel MGM right now.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2005 2:34 am

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NanookTheWolf wrote:
Puzzle wrote:As I'm quite popular, I'll claim Ellen : "The Lady", Sharon Stone,... I am here to avenge my father, who I killed when forced by an outlaw (Herod), when I was a young girl.
Due to the
quote
above you are now a serial killer. Revealing who you were to the town now makes you a threat which in turn makes you even more eager to kill ... Each night submit to me the name of a fighter to whom you wish to annialate ... You are in this alone even more so then before.
(emphasis mine) Ah, just cut the crap. He revealed not just his name, he also revealed his motive. I've got a strong suspicion he's actually quoted his PM. His turning SK sounds like a creative quoting-punishment from the mod.

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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2005 5:42 am

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Mistake ...


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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2005 5:53 am

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Still, you can't deny that there's a substansive difference between the claims Puzzle and I made. He was made SK specifically for the quote the mod mentioned. I never made such a claim. The only specific thing I said about my role was the name - nothing else (I don't call doubt about duelling abilities specific), so it's nonsense to think I'd be treated the same as puzzle.

In fact, I find the way you're trying to get me lynched scummy as hell. As of now, I am the nearest thing you've got to a confirmed innocent. My name checks out as non-scum from the movie and any doubts can be lifted by investigators. After all I can't be a immune GF anymore as GF Zippy is dead.

Stop the nonsense.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2005 5:55 am

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"Are you now willing to give Coron a pass on not claiming at all?"
If he starts to contribute more? Yes, I would.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2005 6:06 am

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MGM wrote:I can tell you know that claiming your name doesn't turn you into a serial killer, cause I'm still the townie I was before I claimed. Think about it! Claiming is an integral part of mafia and taking it away would hurt the game unneccesarily.
My guess right now is that this engine allows the game to transform itself from a regular mafia game to the tournament that was hinted before (Remember the discussion we had about the "last man standing" issue?).

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_Obelix_ wrote:Also, I am suspicious of SquareKnight, if only because he is the only one to have claimed a generic role.
That was true yesterday.
How is it different today?

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_Obelix_[180] wrote:Agreed. Sorry, man. Unvote, Vote:Puzzle. I am still very suspicious of Coron, but this issue needs to be solved before we can go on with the game.
What happened to change your mind? Are you now willing to give Coron a pass on not claiming at all?
That is true. Coron has done nothing to deserve losing the spotlight, I simply had forgotten about the issue.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2005 6:11 am

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Bah! I think I have been killed the first night after a day in every game I have played on this site. The only time that didn't happen was when I was a mafia. I can't decide if I should be flattered or if I really just need to change my playstyle.

Go town!

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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2005 7:22 am

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If you guys want to have someone challenge me I'd be up to it.

I like the way that nanook had the claiming turn him into SK, it is neat as long as you don't mess it up.

Was there any in character reason for that to happen to that character in particular?

Maybe there's only a chance of turning serial killer.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2005 7:55 am

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Coron wrote:If you guys want to have someone challenge me I'd be up to it.
I may be completely wrong, but you seem a bit too eager to duel. Can you actually grace us with some sort of analysis of the game?
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sat May 07, 2005 8:10 am

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Mgm, don't you remember? Coron's not playing mafia yet. Or did I miss something...

Squareknight, your quote from the mod about PM quoting...
Mod wrote:6. Quoting anything that I have sent you is prohibited and is grounds for hanging.
Grounds for hanging. So depending how much of a quote you do. If you post it word for word you instantly die I am guessing. Puzzle reported his name and motive like Mgm said, which had a different consequence. Mgm's name claiming...it's hard to say what the mod might do about name claiming. I'm leaning against a punishment at the moment, but I'm unsure.

Now I asked this yesterday, but it seemed to be largely ignored. I have not seen the film, so I was curious if the Kid is not a scum role, who else would be on Herod's side?
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