The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)

[SerialClergyman]

Can someone give me the tl:dr on milkshake?

If he was blocked N1, isn't that why his claimed ability didn't save Kise? Or are we suspicious for a different reason?

[VP Baltar]

I don't think I quite understand how dramonic's information guarantees or even makes it likely that milk is an SK, so I think I need to look back closer over things or have someone explain it to me.

@Spyrex- are you the big spoon or little spoon?

[Vaya]

Can someone give me the tl:dr on milkshake?

If he was blocked N1, isn't that why his claimed ability didn't save Kise? Or are we suspicious for a different reason?

I don't think I quite understand how dramonic's information guarantees or even makes it likely that milk is an SK, so I think I need to look back closer over things or have someone explain it to me.

It's simple really guys. N1, dram blocked milk and there was no "strangling" death(also, only one town was killed). N2, dram didn't block milk and the "strangling" death was back(and there were two town killed).

Vote: milkshake

[SerialClergyman]

Vp, claim your ability while you are around.

Ok, so why not see if milk can heal kise tonight unroleblocked?

[Vaya]

Ok, so why not see if milk can heal kise tonight unroleblocked?

1. We don't know if Kise needs to be cured of anything or who it is that may need curing.

2. Why would we want to keep a very potential SK alive and unRB'ed to make another kill?

[chamber]

Vp, claim your ability while you are around.

Ok, so why not see if milk can heal kise tonight unroleblocked?

Milk was unrolblocked last night as far as we know. Hence why people are attributing a kill to him.

[SerialClergyman]

Yep, I'm getting there. So the evidence is pretty damning. It seems that unless milk was the target day 1, or there's some other reason why a sk kill didn't go through d1, milk is the sk.

Can we get confirmation from kise that he needs some form of healing?

I'm cool wih the lynch, just view an sk lynch as a mediocre result.

[Benmage]

Ohh yea and I totally forgot:

Vote: Benmage

Silly me.

Reasoning?

vote papa zito

I'd still prefer dramonic but I can compromise.

Why?

Spy, why did you vote benmage over PZ? I thought the whole purpose of the Kscope wagon was to prove how much PZ was chainsawing for benmage.

Also,

Vote:Papa Zito

Who are your suspects now that Kscope has flipped town, PZ?

Really... Pretty sure PZ was pushing a scope lynch for ages. I think PZ is town.

hi?

Why hasnt he voted?

Honestly, I don't see a lot of value to a pro-twn double voter and I am especially suspicious since elmo and his predecessor didn't claim it right away when people were talking about it. Why try and keep it a secret?

On the other hand, if elmo is telling the truth, then I suspect scum may have some ability to affect the votecount as well as a counterbalance.

Hmmm Elmo may be scum.

Ohhai. Rereading last night was enlightening.

I need

everyone's

views on dramonic plz.

TIA

Scum.


Ahhh so milkshake is being setup as a possible SK, i.e. the strangler. I'm down for this. If he does flip SK, it doesnt clear dram at all....Jailkeeper could easily be scum.

vote Milkshake

I'm skimmed/caught up...good thing i went away over night.

[Sajin]

That quick wagon was fail.

I am down with a milkshake lynch but not until after he claims. If nothing else it could be more info.

[tubby216]

nope i am down with lynching milkshake

vote:milkshake

[SpyreX]

....

Tubby you said you were a hider and definitely insinuated that if you hide behind not town you die.

If Milk comes up NOT TOWN, you die.

I am confused.

[curiouskarmadog]

Vote Count (Page 89, Day 3)

milkshake

-7 (dramonic, SpyreX, Plum, SocioPath, Vaya, Benmage, tubby216)
Papa Zito -3 (LlamaFluff, chamber, VP Baltar)
Snow_Bunny -2 (Elmo )
SerialClergyman -1 (Battle Mage)
dramonic -1 (Snow_Bunny)

Not Voting:

Papa Zito, Kise, stark, SerialClergyman, Sajin, milkshake,

Note:

Deadline will be at the earliest 11/14 at 5:00 PM EST. With 20 whole votes available, it takes 11 to lynch.

[SerialClergyman]

Rofl at tubby

[milkshake]

Wow, dramonic (et al.) is going through alot of crazy shenanigans!

I have already claimed... I can claim even more fully, if you want. See the middle of this post. I breadcrumbed my role-name at the game start, and my power is a nice, simple active ability that cures people of total insanity.

I am not informed of the results of my ability (I asked, as I mentioned before), and so I can't be sure whether or not dramonic really did jailkeep me, but plum says she was informed of her jailkeeping, and since I wasn't, I instantly know they're both lying! (Or something very, very strange and extremely unlikely is going on!)

I'm surprised the scum are going through this- it looks like at least plum and dramonic are involved (and, further, plum incriminates tubby), and even if they get me lynched, when I flip it costs them at least two of their number? Wow... that's hard to believe.

There is nothing that didn't come directly from dramonic to link me to deaths caused by strangulation. This all seems surprisingly absurd to me!

So, as promised... first nine sentances I wrote...

U

gh, there's alot of player overlap between this game and Plum's!

I

nteresting.

F

or my part, I'll Vote: Kublai Khan for not being quite as brutal as his grandaddy

D

on't wagon.

B

ecause this is super handy/interesting.

M

y guess is that you didn't get to choose your target

N

o way you investigated me at random.

F

ortunately for you, I can cure you of your insanity

S

ound like a plan?

UIF DBMNFS
THE CALMER

(Back one letter alphabetically)

The Calmer, I'm the leader of the city-watch-type thing. When the Giver is killed, the Dark Goma Influencer tells me to close the city entrance gate, and I'm hopeful we can stop whoever killed him.

My power (instrumental to my high rank and success in the city watch) is the de-insanifier (calming) thing that I have often discussed.

It

would

be possible that dramonic was just very misguided, but not with the plum support

I can confirm that I was blocked, as can my as-yet-unrevealed-friend.

since I can

not

confirm that I was blocked. So, I'll

unvote, vote: dramonic

and you can either lynch me (to be sure) and

then

get on to lynching this conpiracy or get a head start today, and become sure based on dramonic's flip. The latter is slightly better but either works.

[milkshake]

Tubby you said you were a hider and definitely insinuated that if you hide behind not town you die.

If Milk comes up NOT TOWN, you die.

I am confused.

dramonic, Plum, AND tubby. Win!

[SerialClergyman]

I vote we out plums partner before lynching milk.

[Plum]

plum says she was informed of her jailkeeping, and since I wasn't, I instantly know they're both lying!

Yeah no, because my ability actually gets an investigation-type result. It is standard to get a "no result/you were blocked" response when a normal response would be "Player X is the XXXX". Remember, I was blocked N1 but I didn't use the active, specific-Mod-told-result action and thus wasn't informed; I'm only informed when I

don't get any results

due to blockage

. You say you don't get specifically-told results like that, so. Furthermore my partner in this can back me up on this, but that won't be necessary; your flailing has only helped convince me that if you're Converter my friend is even less likely to be Converter.

Dramonic, can the player inside the bubble be targeted at all? I realize I took that a bit for granted when I first read your claim. If so, Hider (generally, as far as I know) does not get an official investigation result and probably would not even be informed if blocked.

Re: The Calmer: I would say I had a gut feeling that not everyone mentioned/implicated in the opening flavor posts was Town, but it doesn't matter at this point, scum. It would be funny if you tranquilized people and made Cop-type roles naive, though. If that's true I totally called it.

I vote we out plums partner before lynching milk.

My partner can take his or her sweet time on that, kthx. Remind me why I thought you were Town? I've forgotten. Not claim-wise, I'll reread that soon; I just was suspicious of you yesterday and can't remember exactly what alleviated the suspicion.

[SpyreX]

Lets take a step back.

Ok, everyone who has actions that are known confirm I have this right:

Night 1:

SC touches SpyreX (no result / zombie)
SpyreX potions SB (black potion / one shot cop)
Milk calms kise (nothing happened / jailed / not informed)
Dramonic jails Milk (results?)
Tubby hides behind Mlik (says if milkshake were a

converter

he'd be killed)
Plum via buddy rolecops Tubby (gets Happy Bunny)
Chamber makes it snow?
SocioPath roleblocks Plum

Night 2:

SC touches VP (no result / zombie)
SpyreX potions DGB (reflective / dead )
Milk calms kise (?)
Dramonic jails Plum (?)
Tubby hides behind BM (breadcrumb?)
Plum roleblocked / no information from buddy
Chamber ?'s
Sociopath roleblocks Elmo

So, general questions (if this is correct):

@All:

Are you getting confirmations that your actions WORKED or just that the mod RECEIVED them? This needs to be answered doubly by the roleblockers.

@Milk:

Did you receive any kind of PM from the mod saying that you were jailed and thus your action didn't work? Or, well, anything that day?

Did you get anything about calming kise day 2?

@Tubby:

Does your hide actions say "hide behind converters = death" or "hide behind non-town = death".

Did you breadcrumb hiding behind BM?

Why did you choose BM?

@Plum:

Did you get RB flavor both nights? 1 night?

It may be time for your partner to come out. Are you confirmed town?

Is there another rolecop report?

I swear I'm missing something. VP, help me ohh great spoon.

[SerialClergyman]

Why do you say I had no result n2? I don't think I or vp have claimed a result?

[SpyreX]

Because I'm getting tired and I jumped ahead with the zombification meaning no result.

Which isn't proven true or false yet. Swoosh.

[SerialClergyman]

No worries. Your post was very helpful nonetheless. <3

[SpyreX]

And am I flat out missing someone that has claimed? I really feel like I am.

[dramonic]

My targets cant be targetted, I asked the mod for clarification day 1.
I receive no message about my ability succeeding.

Also, unless you believe that the giver was killed by third party, Milk is scum.

[Plum]

Are you getting confirmations that your actions WORKED or just that the mod RECEIVED them? This needs to be answered doubly by the roleblockers.

Night 1, action received by the Mod and worked (this confirmed by the Mod, and that's how I knew Tubby's rolename).
Night 2, action received by the Mod and blocked (this confirmed by the Mod, and that's why I don't have a Rolename result today).

Did you get RB flavor both nights? 1 night?

Only if the action was blocked was Roleblock flavor given, because the Roleblock could only affect the active action. Night 1 my partner officially took the action. Night 2 I did and was blocked, presumably by dramonic. Because the targeter wasn't blocked Night 1 the action was not blocked, hence no declaration by the Mod that I was blocked. Because the targeter

was

blocked Night 2 the action [/i]was[/i] blocked and the Mod told us that I was blocked (as opposed to gave us the result of the investigation).

It may be time for your partner to come out. Are you confirmed town?

My partner coming out will not confirm me to be Town, nor will it confirm my partner. Neither of us has Mod-confirmation on the other's alignment. We are both very much inclined to believe the other is Town, however, and my partner can confirm that I am telling the truth about the role and the interactions I've been claiming.

Is there another rolecop report?

No, because I took the Rolecopping action and I was blocked. That was part of why I was so ticked at the start of today and thought it possible that SP was scum and responsible for the block.

The question we really need answered is: Dramonic, does the bubble you create make the target otherwise untargetable/block

any

actions made on that player that Night?

[Plum]

Dramonic: Excellent, thanks. For full confirmation of my theory about why Tubby's Night 1 hide now doesn't prove anything about Milk's alignment, we need to ask something of Tubby's Night 2 target.

Tubby: did you hide behind Battle Mage or Benmage? Ambitiousness wants clarification.