A Clash of Kings - A Divided Kingdom

[Kleedrac]

Subject: CryMeARiver

Please agree to the following contract or explain why you will not

What does this even mean?! Why do you get to set the terms of this 'contract' and why should we agree to anything you say? This appears (to my untrained eye anyway) a very obvious "Look how town I am guys!" and a "You can't question me, I invented the CONTRACT!!" thing. Very scummy feeling. Then we move on to;

Again, pay attention, RVS = OVER

In the same post he declares the RVS to be over (another scum-tell in the sense of "Check how townie I am!!") And then;

Bandwagoning /=/ Scummy

What does that even mean?! Actually I don't care. He's either saying All bandwagoning is scummy (it better not be in a game this large) or bandwagon votes are never scummy (which is dumb.) Moving on we see;

... I don't know how to describe it, so I classify it as anti-town. Yes, I realize I am self raising myself, but ...

Here we see some hypocrisy and;

Why is a mass name claim so bad right now?

Obvious scummy role-sniffing;

If there is a pro-town reason for not agreeing with the contract, by all means, explain it to me.

"ANYONE WHO DOESN'T SIGN THIS CONTRACT IS A COMMUNIST/SCUM!!" Again it's a pretty scummy thing to do.

1. I don't know what RVS means.

2. Why the heck do I care if you declare something over anyway?

RVS = Random Voting Stage
Because lengthy RVS's do not help the town in any way, so I am looking to start genuinely scumhunt.
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What is going on in this post?! He asks questions, answers them, and makes tasty snacks?! It looks bad and it smells bad, IT'S GONE BAD BUDDY!

You guys COMPLETELY misunderstood my point when I said "RVS is over".
RVS is a period of random voting. I had made a statement of nonrandom voting and suspicion, therefore it brought us out of the RVS.
I was NOT saying "RVS is over because RVS is stupid and it should end now."
So shut the f*ck up about the dictator shit Richard. No one wants to hear it.

So what exactly were you saying sir? RVS is helpful to the town in that people who would be lurking (as I am guilty of as well) will generally show up to drop random votes and joke around. It's what starts the discussion until such time as there's words to be examined. RVS segues into the actual game and ending it early is denying the game it's proper start and denying town any form of ammunition at all in the coming discussion.

By the way, glad to see the Richard wagon is taking off.

Yes, thank god the bandwagon you started over nothing has snowballed into L-4 territory, your mother must be so proud of you

Unvote
Vote: CryMeARiver

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I'm sorry it took a mod-prod but I've not been feeling well lately and this game seems a bit overwhelming with the several pages every time I look in I'll try my best to keep up with it now

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

@RichardGHP: You're at L-2. You should probably claim now.

[Eddard Stark]

Vote count 1.7: The '

I want to see him fly

' votecount

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Lynch Count

Deer (1) -

Rifka Viveka

Super Smash Bros. Fan (2) -

CCARaven4, Unsight

RichardGHP (13) -

CryMeARiver, MacavityLock, I doubt it, LynchMePls, xvart, Drippereth, MagnaOfIllusion, danakillsu, vezopiraka, Deer, Animopherv1, Mikujin, migewelloni

CryMeARiver (3) -

RichardGHP, Hasdgfas, Kleedrac

MagnaOfIllusion (1) -

Axelrod

Drippereth (1) -

Benmage

Migwelloni (1) -

Mina

Vezopiraka (1) -

Hayker

Hayker (1) -

Percy

Not voting to Lynch (2) - Paranoia, Super Smash Bros. Fan.

Hand of the King Count

Kleedrac (1) -

Kleedrac

xvart (2) -

Percy, xvart

MacavityLock (1) -

MacavityLock

CryMeARiver (2) -

CryMeARiver, Axelrod

RichardGHP (1)-

RichardGHP

Axelrod (3) -

vezopiraka, MagnaOfIllusion, danakillsu

Benmage (1) -

Benmage

I doubt it (1) -

I doubt it

Not voting to Raise (14) - Unsight, Paranoia, animorpherv1, Migwelloni, Hayker, Rifka Viveka, Drippereth, Mina, LynchMePls, CCARaven4, hasdgfas, Deer, Super Smash Bros. Fan, Mikujin

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to lynch and raise.

The deadline for today's lynch is

10:00pm (site time) on Tuesday the 22nd of June

. You can view a countdown to the deadline

here

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[danakillsu]

He's at L-1, actually.

[danakillsu]

So I'll

unvote

. Consider yourself at L-1, though, Richard.

[Benmage]

You trying to troll me, benmage?

Just catchin up in the bit I'm behind in...you made a post regarding me, should I not of responded...

[Benmage]

Drippereth (2) -

Benmage

I haven't been raised to hand yet.

[LimMePls]

Raise: Drippereth

Best town read atm, and if Doc's often protect Dripp anyways, makes sense. We're at L-2, so those not raising should really do so.

[Hayker]

Unsight is feisty. I'm liking it.

Why was this post needed?

[Hayker]

unvote

vote: richardhgb

I like a good bandwagon

Wow, what an amazing and compelling vote and argument. I am just flabbergasted on how you have convinced me how scummy richard is and how town you are.

[Kleedrac]

Just in case I'm wrong does anyone have a descent case on Richard? I read him and didn't find him scummy so much as dumb-town. Am I wrong? All of the cases against him lack substance beyond-the-meta.

[Rifka Viveka]

Raise Drippereth

wynaut?

Consider yourself at L-1, though, Richard.

I like hammering skulls open, so...

[DrippingGoofball]

Just in case I'm wrong does anyone have a descent case on Richard? I read him and didn't find him scummy so much as dumb-town. Am I wrong? All of the cases against him lack substance beyond-the-meta.

If Richard flips town, or has a credible claim, we lynch Kleedrac.

If Richard flips scum, Kleedrac is 100% not his buddy.

[Drippereth]

Just in case I'm wrong does anyone have a descent case on Richard? I read him and didn't find him scummy so much as dumb-town. Am I wrong? All of the cases against him lack substance beyond-the-meta.

If Richard flips town, or has a credible claim, we lynch Kleedrac.

If Richard flips scum, Kleedrac is 100% not his buddy.

[I doubt it]

Just in case I'm wrong does anyone have a descent case on Richard? I read him and didn't find him scummy so much as dumb-town. Am I wrong? All of the cases against him lack substance beyond-the-meta.

Starting to look more like VI to me as well.

Unvote

I'm not convinced Richard's the best lynch any more, and I

really

don't like the last three votes on the wagon.

FoS: animorpherv1, Mikujin, Migwelloni

More thoughts tomorrow, dead tired now.

[Benmage]

Post 158 - Benmage: GAH! Don't point it out. Ugh. AAAAAH! And why drippereth?

He's voting someone who I feel is showing some pretty obvious town-tells. He's also being obstinate which is either poor town play or scum.

1)

Benmage

, do you think CMAR is scum, or do you just think his contract is a stupid idea?

Initially…probably just the contract being stupid…I didn’t like the whole “rvs” over things..a quick iso read and I’d say he could be scum, so yes to both.

9)

Super Smash Bros. Fan

, I'd have felt much better about you if you'd stood your ground when Dripp asked you why you had no read on Richard. Instead you quickly tried to appease them, by saying "Yes, now that you mention it, I've just seen the light on that scummy scumbag!" Furthermore, you copied

vezopiraka

's reasoning for suddenly suspecting Richard. If anything, I read that Richard post as mildly townish. (It reminds me of a time a town VI-ish player I was hounding snapped back with "can you just leave me alone and find actual scum?")

Agreed, SSBF's sudden epiphany was interesting to follow.

Sooo… I hate Post 229 by CMaR…

I'll admit axel seems to be a very good player and I'll likely take his advice into consideration when using a double vote. Just putting it out there.

*puke*

Who would be in favor of raising the Drippereth hydra? Who would be against? Please explain your decision.

I'm against it...you have illustrated anti-town characteristics.

[Drippereth]

Just in case I'm wrong does anyone have a descent case on Richard? I read him and didn't find him scummy so much as dumb-town. Am I wrong? All of the cases against him lack substance beyond-the-meta.

Starting to look more like VI to me as well.

You have to explain this in detail. Tell me how you are distinguishing scum from extreme VI. Explain why he doesn't need to claim at this juncture. I want to know who is more scummy, and who you'll be voting for next.

In case you wonder. You have made my scum list. Regardless of Richard's alignment.

[Benmage]

Raise: Drippereth

Best town read atm, and if Doc's often protect Dripp anyways, makes sense. We're at L-2, so those not raising should really do so.

Quote me some of his town-tells, or feel free to just explain why you think he's the best town read atm.

Just in case I'm wrong does anyone have a descent case on Richard? I read him and didn't find him scummy so much as dumb-town. Am I wrong? All of the cases against him lack substance beyond-the-meta.

If Richard flips town, or has a credible claim, we lynch Kleedrac.

If Richard flips scum, Kleedrac is 100% not his buddy.

This doesn't make sense...

[Drippereth]

This doesn't make sense...

No really it does. I'll explain later. No one says anything about it in the mean time.

[Benmage]

In contrast to Dripp's post about people being against raising him...can those raising him or willing to raise him share why other than "they're for it".

[Drippereth]

BTW, Benmage is totally 100% town.

[Hayker]

BTW, Benmage is totally 100% town.

Am I allowed to propose questions to a specific head in the hydra? If so then, what'd your read on what little I have done so far DGB?

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Raise: Mina

I did an re-read of the thread and looked at some people ISO and out of all the people, Mina strucks me out as town the most. Here's why...

1. His first random post was great. It manage to get the game into a solid start, not to mention some reactions as well.

2. Has yet to commit a scum tell. A sign of really good playing.

3. Strong scum hunting. Almost all of his posts has been very well executed in terms of contents. It's really nice to have original opinions as well, hence his vote on Migwelloni. He asks very good questions and he helps move forward the game.

I'd like him to have the double vote.

[RichardGHP]

Claim: Renly Baratheon

I am Robert's youngest brother. I have decided to be King, but their are currently bigger problems to attend to.

If I die, Ser Loras is able to perform one kill to attemp to avenge me. Therefore, I know Ser Loras is in the game. However, I do not know who (s)he is and what alignment they are. If Ser Loras dies before I do, nothing happens upon my death.
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Rereading this morning.

[CryMeARiver]

Claim: Renly Baratheon

I am Robert's youngest brother. I have decided to be King, but their are currently bigger problems to attend to.

If I die, Ser Loras is able to perform one kill to attemp to avenge me. Therefore, I know Ser Loras is in the game. However, I do not know who (s)he is and what alignment they are. If Ser Loras dies before I do, nothing happens upon my death.
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Rereading this morning.

Shat,

Unvote

Quickly analyzing bandwagoning reasons