Succession Mafia (OVER!)

[Andrius]

Going to open with a:

Aim: DumbledoreCharlie

And open the inter-game OMGUS tunnel.

Aim: Andrius

He's lurking.

I was on V/LA.

Aim: Abdrius

For being alphabeticaly before me.

And I love being #1 on the player list. <3

So the scum are cult like. The only two scums in the game are the two brothers. They get to recruit a player every night. I don't know what else happens if they do this or what is the drawback. I just assume the two brothers are the bad guys. There could be more. The cult like mechanic is there though.

No shit Sherlock! (Read the rules. )

Seraphim left? Andy is a sad panda.

I have a role. I got to this conclusion by the abilities of my role.
I can claim if I need.

1) O RLY?!?
2) Shut your trap. You're either faking a PR b/c you're bored shitless or you're a PR messing around with WIFOM. Be quiet plzkthx.
3)

So I'm frustrating too am I?

You need to improve your play, especially as scum. When we were scumbuddies you got yourself expelled and left me to fend for myself for 3 days. Wasn't easy.

What is this? RC is lurking? WHAT?!?

holster
you all want me to claim yet?

WTF ARE YOU DOING. NO CLAIMING. GEEZ. DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING FROM HARRY POTTER MAFIA?!?!?

It's a Sunday night dude. You're just a paranoid looking for a wagon to quickly cover for calls of your non-contribution.

I wholeheartedly agree with Gurgi.
Nice to meet you Gurgi.

Interesting, vezo.

Do you know if they would have been able to recruit night zero? Is it a "cult recruiter" type mechanic, where we should be trying to lynch the original scum first, or should we be looking for a plausible recruit to lynch?

My Initial analysis of the situation is as follows:
--We have one scumgroup with 2 recruiters (the bros).
They probably switch nights for recruiting, as 2 recruiters each night means 6 scum by D3.
--We have two scumgroups (headed by each brother). One recruiter each. N0 recruits to bolster their numbers. There's probably about 2-3 scum in each team.
Moving along...

Reaper is either not scum or one of the brothers.

Explain how the hell you know crap like this please.

Hello, my name is ReaperCharlie and I make these useless posts (one more...) because I don't want to actually contribute much to this game.

Mobsters still in the building:
Andrius - Town
animorpherv1
Chronopie -
dramonic - Gut Scum-Read
Erg0 - Gut Scum-Read
Furcolow - Gut Town-Read
gandalf5166 - POST MORE
inHimshallibe - You too
Lord Gurgi
ooba
Porochaz Gut Scum-Read
ReaperCharlie - Town Read

Seraphim

Me=Weird - Town Read
TheLonging
vezokpiraka - Town Read
xvart
Yosarian2
zwetschenwasser

If no read is listed next to your name, I haven't gotten a good read off you yet.
And yes, this game's only gone on for a day or so, but I'm fairly certain of the reads I do have.

Holster
Aim: Dramonic

[Mr. Flay]

Third Situation Report of Day One

[5]

Furcolow (zwetschenwasser, TheLonging, animorpherv1, dramonic, Chronopie)

[2]

Lord Gurgi (ooba, Friend)

[1]

Me=Weird (xvart)

[1]

Yosarian2 (Lord Gurgi)

[1]

Erg0 (inHimshallibe)

[1]

ReaperCharlie (Faraday)

[1]

Friend (Porochaz)

[1]

Faraday (ReaperCharlie)

[1]

dramonic (Andrius)

Holstered: Erg0, Furcolow, gandalf5166, Me=Weird, vezokpiraka, Yosarian2

With 20 alive, 11 drawn guns will be needed to execute someone.

[Furcolow]

WTF ARE YOU DOING. NO CLAIMING. GEEZ. DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING FROM HARRY POTTER MAFIA?!?!?

Multiple things: You are a terrible player who spams even worse than I do, has bad logic, and derails a thread

People on this site are idiotic when it comes to claims

Reapercharlie can spotlight as scum

[animorpherv1]

WTF ARE YOU DOING. NO CLAIMING. GEEZ. DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING FROM HARRY POTTER MAFIA?!?!?

Multiple things: You are a terrible player who spams even worse than I do, has bad logic, and derails a thread

I'm sorry, but if playing bad is posting content and getting the game on track, then Andrius is horribl./

[Porochaz]

No I was giving you advice which you can choose to ignore.

Trolling would be saying something like you cannot even begin to say who is a terrible player. You are idiotic when it comes to claims and whats more, you don't listen. To anyone. Especially as you are completely wrong.

and thats not even trolling really.

[Furcolow]

he gets the game on track with himself and whoever can sit on mafia 20 hours a day
not people who are actually doing good analysis
not saying andrius is bad at analysis, he is slightly above average

he sure is hell a lot better than you or i at being pro-town, ani


porochaz, living under a bridge, asking for a toll

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm sorry, but if playing bad is posting content and getting the game on track, then Andrius is horribl./

Your spelling is horribl./

[Furcolow]

the thing is, if he is town, I fully expect him to post 20 posts an hour
if he doesn't uphold that trend, I am definitely voting going to lynch him

[Furcolow]

i tried to erase that and put "going to lynch him" to be more authoritative, but I ended up failing miserably

[Andrius]

I'm sorry, but if playing bad is posting content and getting the game on track, then Andrius is horribl./

Your spelling is horribl./

More useless content, RC?
This is like another game we played together. I know you're town. So stop being a jackass and help or lurk and DO NOT POST. Jeez you're useless.


And Ginny, I'm at college now so my activity rate will slump. But I post content when I'm here, so.

[animorpherv1]

I'm sorry, but if playing bad is posting content and getting the game on track, then Andrius is horribl./

Your spelling is horribl./

Yea, that was bad...

Furcolow, not everyone posts 20 times every hour.

Truly, all we are trying to do is help you get better, through whatever means we are using. So, would you lease listen to us every once and a while instead of shoving us off?

[Furcolow]

Well, I don't consider my play to be any worse than yours. I consider myself a better player than you, and less of a policy-lynch than you. I guess I have an overly inflated opinion of my play in relation to the quality of play found here on mafiascum. I am actually a lot better than people think. A lot of people underestimate my abilities. If you'll just note how much I am talked about/discussed as a lynch option, you will see that people really respond to my play. That is my goal. I like to get information flowing when I am of the townie variety. I also have a habit of claiming a power role to soak a hit. Just something I do for you guys.

If you want to criticize me, and push a lynch on me, how the hell do you expect me to get better? I've had that done to me so much, that I am pretty good at putting off a wagon when I am scum. That's all that has happened, so thanks. Players like you create a lot of pressure that is nearly impossible to alleviate as a townie. "Claim OR DIE!!!" "i'm a vanilla townie" "OFF WEETH EZ 'EAD" basically

Let's not derail this thread any more than we have
Is Seraphim replacing out? Regardless, I want to hear from that slot on what has happened D1
I also want to hear more from gandalf/yosarian2

[Andrius]

@ Furc:
Seraphim is /out. Me=Weird is /in.
If the 2 paragraphs were to me, I don't want you lynched, and please don't softclaim unless you need to. Think of Padfoot.

[Me=Weird]

Hi guys. You know, I'm already tired of being with furcolow and vezo. But I couldn't miss this game.

Anyway, I think the scum is friend. Case:
He doesn't just play that way as town. He plays that way all the time. He is very hard to read.
The "soft-claim" was telling us something all of us except apparently he knew before signing up. He may or may not have an informative role.
Have you ever encountered or heard of a town recruiter?
Goes from being sure seraphim's scum to he's probably town(though you're right about that).
Wait, you're saying if someone's a VI they're town? Since when?
Nice reasoning for the gurgi vote.
Hm. There's known to be recruiting roles, night start, no deaths. PRETTY OBVIOUS THEY RECRUITED, HUH?
Why's LG scummy? You haven't said why. Usually you vote without reasoning, then state it later. Not at all this time though.

I say you're scum. Don't try to deny it, scumbag.

Aim: Friend

[animorpherv1]

@Furc:

Point taken. In relation to some Scummers, I'm not that good. I don't take myself to be one, to the best of my knowledge. I'm not sure how on your other site you play how you fair there. But in relation to MS, your not that great. Everyone has there own playstyle, and I guess that's just yours. However, maybe if you read through the Mafiawiki you may find some interesting points and tips.

The best way to act as a VT, if you are one, is to get the scum to think you are a PR, so they kill you, and not the real PR. Also, constant lynching is mroe of the assault method, as I like to call it. eventually, most people, if policy lynched enough, would figure out that there play is bad, and that they can improve. The next time someone says "Furcolow, don't claim at L-7, take it as constructive critisim, and try not not claim at L-7 again. Generally, L-3 is when you should start thinking about claiming.

[animorpherv1]

EBWOP:

Mafiawiki.

[Andrius]

Thanks M=W, but I feel like your catch-up post leaves something to be desired. Namely:
Any other scumreads? There are definitely more than one scum and coming in focusing solely on Friend (and talking bad about vezok and furc) isn't what I was hoping for. :/

[Porochaz]

Well, I don't consider my play to be any worse than yours.

I consider myself a better player than you, and less of a policy-lynch than you. I guess I have an overly inflated opinion of my play in relation to the quality of play found here on mafiascum. I am actually a lot better than people think. A lot of people underestimate my abilities.

If you'll just note how much I am talked about/discussed as a lynch option, you will see that people really respond to my play. That is my goal. I like to get information flowing when I am of the townie variety.

I also have a habit of claiming a power role to soak a hit. Just something I do for you guys.

If you want to criticize me, and push a lynch on me, how the hell do you expect me to get better? I've had that done to me so much, that I am pretty good at putting off a wagon when I am scum. That's all that has happened, so thanks. Players like you create a lot of pressure that is nearly impossible to alleviate as a townie. "Claim OR DIE!!!" "i'm a vanilla townie" "OFF WEETH EZ 'EAD" basically

Let's not derail this thread any more than we have
Is Seraphim replacing out? Regardless, I want to hear from that slot on what has happened D1
I also want to hear more from gandalf/yosarian2

The stuff underlined is wrong. Wrong in the way that it's not true.
The stuff in italics is wrong. Wrong in the way that your view is incorrect. If you were a power role, we would prefer you to use it, the game is balanced using amongst a few other things power roles. You severely damage the town by claiming that without any reason. In the end this is a team game, as a power role the best thing you can do is use it. If I am VT I would be okay being killed night 1 over a power role, as potentially the power role can be a much bigger benifit to town than I can.

How do you get better? Listen to others advice maybe? Ive been in a couple of games with you now and you just don't. Play in newbie games, read older games, read the wiki and relearn the basics because simply you dont know them. Players create a lot of pressure to find scum, the way you play attracts that, scum think you are an easy target, town think your scum because of your playstyle. The thing is though its noones fault but yours.

[Porochaz]

@Furc:

Point taken. In relation to some Scummers, I'm not that good. I don't take myself to be one, to the best of my knowledge. I'm not sure how on your other site you play how you fair there. But in relation to MS, your not that great. Everyone has there own playstyle, and I guess that's just yours. However, maybe if you read through the Mafiawiki you may find some interesting points and tips.

The best way to act as a VT, if you are one, is to get the scum to think you are a PR, so they kill you, and not the real PR. Also, constant lynching is mroe of the assault method, as I like to call it. eventually, most people, if policy lynched enough, would figure out that there play is bad, and that they can improve. The next time someone says "Furcolow, don't claim at L-7, take it as constructive critisim, and try not not claim at L-7 again. Generally, L-3 is when you should start thinking about claiming.

L-3, really? I'd be very iffy about that.

[animorpherv1]

@Furc:

Point taken. In relation to some Scummers, I'm not that good. I don't take myself to be one, to the best of my knowledge. I'm not sure how on your other site you play how you fair there. But in relation to MS, your not that great. Everyone has there own playstyle, and I guess that's just yours. However, maybe if you read through the Mafiawiki you may find some interesting points and tips.

The best way to act as a VT, if you are one, is to get the scum to think you are a PR, so they kill you, and not the real PR. Also, constant lynching is mroe of the assault method, as I like to call it. eventually, most people, if policy lynched enough, would figure out that there play is bad, and that they can improve. The next time someone says "Furcolow, don't claim at L-7, take it as constructive critisim, and try not not claim at L-7 again. Generally, L-3 is when you should start thinking about claiming.

L-3, really? I'd be very iffy about that.

That's just about when you should start thinking about softclaiming. I do recommend claiming at L-1, but when youre at L-3 and several others would gladly vote you, I'd claim then.

[animorpherv1]

@Furc:

Point taken. In relation to some Scummers, I'm not that good. I don't take myself to be one, to the best of my knowledge. I'm not sure how on your other site you play how you fair there. But in relation to MS, your not that great. Everyone has there own playstyle, and I guess that's just yours. However, maybe if you read through the Mafiawiki you may find some interesting points and tips.

The best way to act as a VT, if you are one, is to get the scum to think you are a PR, so they kill you, and not the real PR. Also, constant lynching is mroe of the assault method, as I like to call it. eventually, most people, if policy lynched enough, would figure out that there play is bad, and that they can improve. The next time someone says "Furcolow, don't claim at L-7, take it as constructive critisim, and try not not claim at L-7 again. Generally, L-3 is when you should start thinking about claiming.

L-3, really? I'd be very iffy about that.

That's just about when you should start thinking about claiming. I do recommend claiming at L-1, but when youre at L-3 and several others would gladly vote you, I'd claim then.

EBWOP

[Porochaz]

Ive never seen a good use of softclaiming. Ever.

[animorpherv1]

I didn't mean to say softclaiming.

[Porochaz]

Meh I ignored your edit.

[Furcolow]

So if I'm a townie, I should say I'm a power role, and if I'm a power role, I should say I'm a townie
You're telling me something that I said in my post, honestly, if you know how to infer information
The shit underlined is true, you are providing no basis for it being wrong other than your opinion that it is wrong. Your opinion sucks.

You touch on game "balance" in relation to us having power roles, what about the f11 with 7 townies? Is that balanced? You made this setup? You're a master of setups, huh? You know when EVERYTHING is balanced? The only game I've played as town with multiple recruiters, honestly, was an overwhelming town win. It was probably "balanced" too.

You know how we won?
More on that later

I don't need to "get better", players like you need to get on my level, then you might understand something that is actually more of a deep concept: YOU ARE DETRACTING FROM THE GAME BY PUSHING A NON-EXISTENT "POLICY" WITHOUT A CASE. Get off your asses, and do some scumhunting.

It is not my fault whatsoever. People are intimidated by me, otherwise they wouldn't be typing my name so much. Half of the player list types my name when they post. I'd rather be talked about badly than not talked about at all.

Yet again, I'm going to re-iterate so that the people who actually read this can be urged to do something productive: start scumhunting, tell me who your reads are on, tell me who you feel is scum


ebwopreview:
L-3 is relative
in a 30 player game, sure
in a 9 player game, not really

The way that we won as a collective against the recruiters was through a mass nameclaim
I am wanting us to do that this game... Would the mafia have fakeclaims?