Super Smash Bros. Mafia! GAME OVER!!

[tanstalas]

Tan, we're smashing you or Shark.

Which do you prefer?

Neither

Mothrax would be the smart smash. If he flips town we lynch Chrono. If he flips scum, well.. even better

I'm half confirmed town based on the fact I sat at home twiddling my thumbs on N4. And you must also believe Shark is town, otherwise you would not put so much faith in his "clearing" of Bunnylover by adding him to yuor "Confirmed Town" list.

So Nacho in other words; terrible gambit attempt

[Nachomamma8]

I don't believe Shark is town.

We've known Chrono is indy lyncher for decades.

I think moth is probably town.

[tanstalas]

I don't believe Shark is town.

Then how did Bunny make it to your confirmed townie list?

[Nachomamma8]

Furry.

[tanstalas]

Furry.

And what did Furry say that made Bunny obv-town in your eyes?

[Nachomamma8]

Bunny is town or a mafia ninja (which I doubt) since he targeted no one last night. If he is scum that is just horrible luck.

Quadz was obviously town at this point unless this is 5 scum per team (doubt it again). Or other bastard modding (again, doubt it).

town vote bunnylover

He is most confirmed town we got. Remaining scum are 1 mafia janitor and 1 mafia ???

[tanstalas]

Bunny is town or a mafia ninja (which I doubt) since he targeted no one last night. If he is scum that is just horrible luck.

Quadz was obviously town at this point unless this is 5 scum per team (doubt it again). Or other bastard modding (again, doubt it).

town vote bunnylover

He is most confirmed town we got. Remaining scum are 1 mafia janitor and 1 mafia ???

Tans is not red scum (assuming quadz is) because he did nothing. Tans IS not blue scum, as he did nothing while another blue RB existed (goon kills RB blocks).

So, you believe him when he posts about Bunny, but not about me, you think Shark is scum, yet you do not want to vote him? As well, how come you haven't town voted Bunny yet?

[Nachomamma8]

Goon kills RB blocks isn't always the rule. Godfather passes down authority of who makes the kills, Roleblocker has the ability to block and kill etc.

TownVote: Bunnylover

Sorry. I thought I already did that.

[tanstalas]

Goon kills RB blocks isn't always the rule. Godfather passes down authority of who makes the kills, Roleblocker has the ability to block and kill etc.

If I was Blue - the godfather is already dead
If I was Red - only the godfather and I were alive at that point

So, explain to me again why I did nothing N4?

(this is assuming there isn't 5 man scum teams)

[The Master Hand]

Lynch count!

mothrax (0):
Stels (7): Nachomamma8, tanstalas, mothrax, Chronopie, Stels, Bunnylover, Furry
Nachomamma8 (0):
Bunnylover (0):
Furry (0):
Chronopie (0):
tanstalas (0):
SharkFinn (0):

Not Voting (1): SharkFinn

With 8 alive it's 5 to lynch!

Stels has been lynched! Twilight for the next 24 hours, until 11:30am PST, tomorrow the 21st.

Town votes!

mothrax (0):
Stels (1): SharkFinn
Bunnylover (6): Furry, Bunnylover, Chronopie, Nachomamma8, Stels, mothrax
Chronopie (0):
tanstalas (1): tanstalas

Not Voting (0): ---

Majority is not required for receiving the Smash Ball, however, the person with the most pluarity will receive it. Right now, at deadline if a lynch were to occur, that would be Bunnylover

[Nachomamma8]

Godfather passes down authority of who makes the kills

As in, there's a designated pecking order of who makes the kill, starting with the Godfather.

[Furry]

@tans - You are *probably* not scum. I would not be shocked if you were, but the chance of that happening is low given my track results. You being blue scum as I said is nearly out of the question, red scum not even close. CSL/kocc I had as town for a long time, and would more likely make the kill then you-goon given that I would not track him over others.

Long shot? Yes.
Impossible? No.

[SharkFinn]

Stels is town. Why are we lynching him???

and why am I scum?? Why would I epic double bus?

[Bunnylover]

I'm been stupid

Unvote: Stels

I'm letting this confirmed townie status get to my head.

[tanstalas]

Stels is town. Why are we lynching him???

Good point, I jumped on because I figured this was a gambit to catch overeager scum. Considering everyone except Mothrax has posted now I figure it is a good time to remove my fake vote and go back to my original vote of whom I do believe is scum.

Lynch vote: Unvote
Lynch Vote: Mothrax

[Furry]

Stels is town. Why are we lynching him???

He is scum. Specifically blue.

You are not blue scum due to killing manho (doubt that was a bus)
Bunny is not blue scum because he went nowhere last night (im guessing he isnt ninja)
Nacho is not blue scum because he is mod confimed town (duh)
Chrono is not blue scum because he is day killing (and neutral lyncher)
Tans is not blue scum due to being tracked nowhere N4 (last blue scum is rolled)
Moth is not blue scum due to being tracked nowhere N3 (last blue scum is rolled)

Who is left? Stels.

What is the arguement for him being town? That he looked town in a quicktopic? Want me to link you to a game with a SK-nieghborizer?

[Furry]

Want more proof? Look at interactions

diddin never mentions him
mongoose votes (seth) right after MPR makes a statement that sounds like a possible cop guilty

Anyone who doesn't vote Seth in their next post or two or explain why they aren't are scum.

Apart from that, no mention of stels.
manho, like diddin, completely ignores stels.

Stels played a good game. The fact that everyone else is NOT scum, and that his partners point right at him make him scum though

lynch vote stels

@Shark - Who else can be blue scum? Where do I make an elimination of a player that I shouldnt be making one?

[Bunnylover]

Furry I get your logic for voting Stels now, and it makes pretty good sense.
The only thing I don't get is that so far both mafia group have had the same roles, which means that logically Stels would have to be a watcher.
But if he actually conversed with people, that would prove that he isn't a watcher and actually what he says he is.

So pretty much I'm asking you, do you believe that both mafia group have the same role because from the Villian mafia we are missing a goon, and from the traitor mafia we are missing a watcher if both groups had the same roles given to them.

[Furry]

So pretty much I'm asking you, do you believe that both mafia group have the same role because from the Villian mafia we are missing a goon, and from the traitor mafia we are missing a watcher if both groups had the same roles given to them.

Wasnt the "roles must be even" a big part of that horri-bad dana lynch? Roles do not really need to be mirror images of eachother, but there are probably an equal ammount of roles that take actions on each team.

My only hangup right now if the "janitoring" of quadz which I am starting to wonder if was really a janitoring or not. Odd part is if it IS a janitor, I doubt that Stels is scum. If it is something else causing it (like some bastard thing), stels has to be scum.

I just like a stels lynch here. It makes sense.

[tanstalas]

Just did a quick ISO on Stels - actually, starting to see what you see Furry. Also in his 2nd post he criticized his predecessor's playstyle

In a recent game DDDP mentioned a tactic that Amished used to catch scum in that when someone replaces into a game and immediately starts to criticize who they replaced into the game for it was a scumtell - you would have to ask Amished the specifics, however it did work for that game, and Amished said that it has actually worked 10/11 times and 10/10 times when applied correctly.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 11&t=14792 is the game. I will do another read through later focusing on Stels interactions with the confirmed scum thus far.. probably tomorrow night.

More specifically the post where DDDP brought it up http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p2452327

The only thing I do not like about the Stels lynch is if he is indeed town - where do we go from there? With a Mothrax lynch if he is town then Chronopie makes a no-brainer lynch the next day.

[Furry]

With a Mothrax lynch if he is town then Chronopie makes a no-brainer lynch the next day.

Chrono is third party lyncher. We are just keeping him around to vig moth tomorrow.

[tanstalas]

With a Mothrax lynch if he is town then Chronopie makes a no-brainer lynch the next day.

Chrono is third party lyncher. We are just keeping him around to vig moth tomorrow.

At the very best he is a 3rd party lyncher. At the worst he has a separate win-con and after he kills mothrax we all end up playing for second place.

[Chronopie]

I know what we've been overlooking.

We were too tunneled on GF/RB/Watcher/Goon, thus we lynched dana.

Think GF/RB/INFO ROLE/Goon. Therefore Stels-neighbouriser is town, and one of Furry/Shark is not. The other will be mothrax, the last "VT." Thus we can all win together, when I shoot him tomorrow.

[Furry]

I know what we've been overlooking.

We were too tunneled on GF/RB/Watcher/Goon, thus we lynched dana.

Think GF/RB/INFO ROLE/Goon. Therefore Stels-neighbouriser is town, and one of Furry/Shark is not. The other will be mothrax, the last "VT." Thus we can all win together, when I shoot him tomorrow.

Well, there is another problem there.

First, Sharks role is useless from a scum perspective. Second, any mod worth thier salt knows that as the ammount of non-VT roles increases the strength of a watcher gets stronger then strength of a tracker very quickly. I think the point of inflection (for scum aligned) changes after about 25% non-VT.

No matter what the last blue role is, unless it is another watcher, or argueably (but I disagree) janitor, red was stronger, which is probably compensated by their roles being more incriminating.

Also neighborizer can be a strong role if the person using it knows what they are doing.

[Chronopie]

GAH. The janitoring of Quadz did NOT come from nowhere.