OK, having read the dead thread, there are a few things I'd like to address as regards the Day 6, Night 6, Day 7 situation. Interesting fact: Everyone who was dead knew (mod-confirmed) that Magna and I were Greyjoy and Lanny scum respectively. We did not. That plays a very important role in my decision making.
At the start of Day 6, both VP and I were pretty sure that Magna was Greyjoy, but we weren't sure. Our path to victory was as follows: Lynch the Greyjoy, get the game to some endgame that included diddin, and try to get a diddin lynch. We knew that this would be hard, given that both Richard and Thor were pretty much solid on their diddin-town reads, but this was our hope.
Of course, the day started out against us, and we had to defend. I realized the thing with Magna and CSL having to vote for each other by pure logic of guaranteed scum-ness, and that's when things went wonky. I
really
think that it makes no sense for the townie in that situation to vote for me. He's looking at a 100% guaranteed scum, and me vs. diddin. Even if he thinks that the Mac hydra is 95% likely scum, the Greyjoy is the
correct
person to be voting. So, the fact that CSL was going against it, and did so twice!, while Magna did not, made VP and me rethink everything. That connections post was legitimate; I became convinced over my re-read that CSL was Greyjoy.
One other thing I looked at (and obviously couldn't bring up to town) was at Magna's breadcrumb. In the Lanny QT, we almost immediately shared fakeclaims, and treated them as a pool to draw from. I figured that there was a good chance that the Greyjoys did too. In which case, it wouldn't make a ton of sense to lock yourself into one (Hodor) that early. So, I looked real hard for other breadcrumbs like that, and couldn't find any. By the end of Day 6, VP and I were almost positive that CSL was Greyjoy.
Once he flipped town, we were in a bind. I actually looked at all of the various options, examining what would happen in any given pair of kills scenario. Obviously, we weren't going to kill diddin. I was also almost positive that Magna wasn't going to kill either diddin or us. Not realizing that Magna actually had incriminating evidence on us, we assumed that he would leave diddin and us alone, because he couldn't be the last scum left with two or three townies; he would have lost immediately. So, examining the other options, were were left with a pretty shitty situation. Killing Magna either puts us into a pretty much immediate loss (diddin, Richard, us), or a hard last day (diddin, Thor, us), and we can't know which. Killing Richard puts us in kingmaker situations (diddin, Magna, us, maybe plus Thor). Thor, you weren't on our list simply because you were slightly friendlier to us than Richard was.
Then I had the idea for a No Kill. Contrary to what VP was saying, I actually thought that we could convince a 4 person kingmaker to vote off obv-Greyjoy Magna and give us the win. Again, what we were thinking was that even if there was only a slight chance that diddin was scum, we weren't confirmed scum, while Magna was. If we fail to lynch Magna, we go No Lynch to Prisoner's Dilemma. Trying to lynch obv-scum Magna was our path to victory.
What we didn't consider was that Magna had evidence against us and would out us at the start of the day. At that point, I don't think there's any choice but to go for the shared win/draw/whatever you want to call it.
As for "integrity of the game", please stop. It all comes down to each person's relative value of win vs shared win/draw vs loss. In my opinion, the difference between a win and a draw was much less than the difference between a draw and a loss. The end. Maybe in your opinion, a draw is worth the exact same as a loss, but that's your opinion. I'm pleased with the outcome, and yes, I too would have been pretty bitter had Magna defected. But honestly, I would've been okay with it. It's only a game. (Then again, if Magna had defected, and we ever ended up in a PD together again, I would defect so fast, it would make your head spin.)
Yes, my fake claim is Innocent Aligned with the Town win condition as per the mod's first post.
