Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Nikanor]

Unvote: Ythan

As much as I hate doing that, I can't see any way for him to be lynched today. Maybe tomorrow,

when

if people realize that activity and aggression are null-tells for most experienced players, including Ythan.

Vote: ZONEACE.

Clearly that is the best wagon.

[jenniwren]

1) Because of the level of emotional involvement in the LLD/Ythan debate, I think it is best to table it and give any investigative roles the opportunity to check them both out before anything else happens with either of them.

2) Diddin/ZoneAce is still incredibly scummy. While Diddin was here, he only joined convenient wagons and parroted arguments. ZoneAce hasn't done much of anything, either. However, not sure I agree with Nik that his lynch would be the best for D1 as it won't yield much information as the only statement from that slot that might have any analyzable substance in it is this.

Second. I don't like ythan, especially recently. Page 38 and the stuff immediately preceding it make me really uncomfortable. The exchange with Nikanor doesn't feel right. I'm still working on catching up on everything but that immediately jumped out at me.

If Diddin flips scum, he and Ythan aren't scum together as this reads like he's going for an easy target here rather than a bus; that he specifically focuses on the exchange with Nik in this post despite the massive amounts of other things going on with Ythan could mean that he is either buddying townNik or chainsawing scumNik.

Nik: why is ZoneAce the best wagon of the day and not Substrike or GIS?

[chesskid3]

Zone is vigbait. Substrike is a good lynch

[Hinduragi]

I still think we should lynch the mod. Hinduragi, what are the town tells you describe? Everything else you said is WIFOM.

I iso'd her, actually, and didn't see any towntells. Still, her behaviour is all try-hard and I think she's giving genuine effort towards her cases. Based on Cupcakes flip, I think we'd basically know if she's scum/town. I can't see any scum being stupid enough to bet their all on a likely lynch candidate. She has given out reads and her play today will out her later on if she's scum.

Substrike:

You're voting Cupcake solely for active lurking? What do you think of his/her softclaim? Cupcake has 92 posts, whereas you have 24. Again, why do you think his/her active lurking is worse than your own?

[Fate]

GIS WAGON IS STALLING?


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

GANDALF WAS ON YESTERDAY BUT I DONT SEE ANY POSTS HERE.

LURK TO VICTORY?

I DONT THINK SO FUCKERS

[Fate]

Why didn't anyone comment on this?!

I think his stance on BE is inaccurate; there are several worse offenders of sheeping and the like. Reads as bullshit he had to make up. And...he's trying to pass suspicion on Fate for

following his town meta?!

I'm in disbelief by Chronopie's uselessness and avoidance of anything you could remotely call scumhunting.

HEY IVE BEENC ALLIN CHRONO SCUM FOR 50 PAGES DONT TRY TO NOT GIVE MY TOWN CRED WHERE IT IS DUE.

THE POWERS THAT BE HAVE SPARED CHRONO FOR TODAY, APPARENTLY, BUT HES STILL SCUM.

[Le Cupcake]

I agree with DTM that ythan needs to be checked out tonight.

I still need to catch up on this game, which will hopefully happen in the next couple of days. Meanwhile, my vote goes to fate.

Unvote, Vote GIS

[GandalfIzSik]

Okay, I haven't had time to catch up on the last twenty pages, but I will pop in to shoot down DTM's case. Sorry, this is the game I've given the least priority to, since I have someone else who can presumably hold up the fort while I'm gone.

[GandalfIzSik]

4. Oi Gandalf this post is way terrible for the reasons outlined earlier. If you want to prove Chess' townieness we'd let him kill himself. If he's town it's more productive to do that rather then instant lynch the guy who can prove his alignment.

I don't think we should lose two power roles to get chess out of the game when we could just get rid of him. That said, I'm currently all for leaving him alive until MC.

I absolutely HATE when people give me crap about my softclaiming. IGNORE IT FOR CHRISSAKE. There's a reason I'm doing it, find other reasons to lynch me, but softclaiming is a NULLTELL.
And..... I thought DTM was the one who made a case on me? Or was it Dekes?

[Fate]

LOOK WHO FUCKIN SHOWED UP

[chesskid3]

Dekes is scum though so

[GandalfIzSik]

Like this:

maybe he's a night 0 cop!?!?!?!?!

@nik!!!!!!!

- are you claiming N-0 cop or something?

I'm not trying to role fish but I think it may be nice to know if any of the other Goddesess(if there are any) have an element with them, that would solve this.

Rolefishing at maximum.

Well, that's shotty for you. Not to mention that he clearly couldn't have been a N0 cop, with no N0. We're all thinking it, we just have this little thing in our head that reminds us why asking would be stupid. Shotty goes ahead and posts it anyways. He's like that IRL too.

unvote
vote ythan
for reason stated by LL
btw she is 100% right about what she's talking about

Okay, I'm still not read up, but Nayru is NOT aquatic. She's a goddess, her race would reflect that. Oh, and ythan is town, please stop bein stupid.

Contradictions.

Yes, the two different heads have two different opinions. I've managed to rally shotty over to the not stupid side though, so it's under control.

- He's hopping on chess' wagon because chess is anti-town.
- He's calling for a policy lynch on chess long after he's been cleared by Nik.

At the time I said that, I hadn't yet read up to the part where Nik cleared chess. That's what happens when you get behind, you say stupid shit you later regret. Although there is a tiny part of me that's still convinced chess is scum. I have a theory that Nik could be scum from the opposing faction of chess, claiming an innocent for town cred. But...... that's just my little paranoid theory, and as long as chess agrees to suicide when we tell him to, I'm fine with keeping him alive.

Anti-town players don't get lynched on D1. They get vigged or are looked into later. And it's even easier with chess. If at some point someone gets vanillaized and chess is still alive, we'll lynch his sorry ass. If at some point Nik dies (he pretty much softclaimed daycop and I don't know how long scum will want to have him around, only because town is unsure about Nik's alignment) and flips scum, we'll lynch chess' sorry ass.

This is another reason I backed off. But I do want to know one thing. Don't the SAME things apply to the shotty side of the hydra, which is the source of 90% of your case?

Bottom line of GIS' Iso: Zero scumhunting, contradictions, rolefishing.

GIS: Can you please specify which of you is saying what. I thought it'd be easier to differentiate between you two. And can you please give me a reason why I shouldn't vote you? Actually I don't think you can.

Eh. He has bad spelling and doesn't capitalize, I figured that would be enough. But I will start doing this.

Unvote; Vote: GandalfIzSik

You should really work together as a hydra to avoid such mistakes

Shotty has some kind of QT phobia.

EBWOP: I've been here, reading along from my main account, I just haven't had time to switch accounts and post. I figured it was time to make time.

[GandalfIzSik]

Now I'm gonna try to get caught up once and for all.

[GandalfIzSik]

Shitshitshitshitshitshitshit.

There's a shift. There's a FUCKING SHIFT.

Preview edit: WHY DO I HAVE TO SUBMIT 5 FUCKING TIMES TO GET A POST THROUGH!?

Also, this post unconfirms chess. Just thought I would point that out.

[Fate]

Stop right there.

STOP RIGHT THERE.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CATCHUP POST YTHAN/FATE STYLE.

DON'T EVEN FUCKIN WASTE OUR SPACE WITH THAT BULLSHIT.

YOU THINK YOU CAN FLATTER US WITH MIMICRY?

SHUTTHE FUCK UP AND SELF-VOTE.

[GandalfIzSik]

No, I accidentally hit the submit button.

[Fate]

You "accidentally" hit it and the end of fully formed point that seems to indicate "im just pointing this out real quick"

Are you fucking backtracking and lying now too?

[Ythan]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

Read with a bit more attention. This is the lynch for today. It gets us more info than any other lynch due to connections we can make. Also, summing everything up, LLD is pretty scummy.

Connections we can get amount to:
Fate
Cupcake
Chess
Ythan
Off the top of my head.

Who disagrees with this and why, aside of those who have already pronnounced themselves?

I don't see how those connections don't also apply to cupcake, if you are going purely based off of a

lolconnections

reasoning. Care to explain your choice of one over the other?

Care to wax philosophical on why LL is scummy?

^This. If you can't make logical connections without pushing for a lynch on someone you can't even provide a legitimate argument against, then how can we expect you to make the correct inferences, even WITH said connections?

This vote seems almost opportunistic to me. Riding Ythan's coattails.

Are you kidding. He posted, Ray responded, and without even waiting for another post you just sheeped Ray. You really are the worst kind of player.

[Ythan]

I'm pretty sure that she's town. Scum doing what she has done in Day 1 would attract too much attention.

"Scum wouldn't act this scummy."

Why does anyone on the site still try to make this argument. Honestly it's about the worst one you can make that can apply generally to any game.

[Ythan]

Anyone, like DTM, who can't understand the difference between flavor speculation and recognizing a botched claim is...well, still far from the worst we have in this game.

[Ythan]

I agree with DTM that ythan needs to be checked out tonight.

It looked less retarded when other players did it. Is it because they're not scummy as hell or is it because they didn't have to come out of lurking to omgus sheep a pseudo-accusation. The world may never know.

[GandalfIzSik]

You "accidentally" hit it and the end of fully formed point that seems to indicate "im just pointing this out real quick"

Are you fucking backtracking and lying now too?

Nope. I meant to hit preview, to make sure my tags were right, and I accidentally hit submit instead.

[Fate]

Its been 3 fucking hours, and thats what you post Gandalf?

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT RE-READ.

OH WAIT, ITS NOT COMING.


MORE.
GIS.
VOTES.

[Chronopie]

Unanticipated V/LA. Be back in a few days.

[Fate]

Chrono you don't post anything while you're here, so what the fuck do we care if you're NOT here?