Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[GandalfIzSik]

Why do you think he's scum?

Who said we did?
We know we are town, and the only way for us to be 100%sure town isn't lynched is to save ourselves, for the towns benifit.

[GandalfIzSik]

EBWOP: ^^Is to lynch to the competing wagon

[Reckamonic]

PLUSHIE: "Do you smell that, darling?"
BIG DADDY: "Yeah...what IS that smell?"
PLUSHIE: "It smells like...a deadline lynch!"

Le Cupcake (2): Substrike22, Ythan, Untrod Tripod
Lady Lambdadelta (2): Blooderection
Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy", Aikage
Blooderection (1): mothrax
GandalfIzSik (11): KDub, zwetschenwasser, RayFrost, Fate, ABR, Le Cupcake, Lady Lambdadelta, Exilon, Bunnylover, jenniwren, Nikanor, Beefster
Nikanor (1): Mafuyu
Substrike22 (6): Hinduragi, chesskid3, DTMaster, JaBOC, Dekes, GandalfIzSik

Not voting: jmj3000, ZONEACE, Chronopie

With 28 alive, it takes 14 to lynch!
Oh and by the way, deadline is the 24th at 11:59PM.
Mafuyu has apparently requested replacement.

[Beefster]

Ah. Sorry about that ck3 vote earlier. I was like 4 pages before the cop claim/check in my reading.

I also just saw some of my predecessors arguments against GIS, namely this one:

GIS is REEEEEEACHING to try to revive the Chesskid wagon after it's finally died. Probably scum.

So I'm on page 21 and wondering why there's a page 22.
Here are the possibilities, in order of likelihood:
1. Chess is scum, telling the truth about his role. He knows he'll be lynched tomorrow if he's not today, so he'll use his ability tonight, no question. Not to mention, he's scum, so. INSTALYNCH MATERIAL.
2. Chess is scum, lying about his role. He's scum. So. Also, don't rule this one out because chess couldn't come up with that fakeclaim. Dram always has QTs open during daytime, so a scumbuddy could have done it, no problem. INSTALYNCH MATERIAL
3. Chess is town, telling the truth about his role. He needs to die, or he'll OMGUS with his role. INSTALYNCH MATERIAL
4. Chess is town, lying about his role. He's retarded. INSTALYNCH MATERIAL.

So useless! Scum.

Why me? on post 885

Cases are scummy

General Active Lurking

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JABOC attacks only active lurkers around post 889

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Now on page 42.

[Chronopie]

Chrono: Since you are accusing BE of being a sheep, please explain your behavior in post 753. If you remember, I asked you why you were voting for BE, and your response at the time was:

...followed the lead of a player I have a nominally town read on...

So why is BE scum for being a sheep when you have demonstrated pretty much the essence of being a sheep yourself?

The "nominally town read" post was Nik's #739

And I had already stated that BE was doing nothing but following others posts to make attacks, without original thought. I'd like to think I put in a

little

original thought before jumping on to a wagon.

Given that there are 2 days to the deadline and the current state of the vote count, Gandalf needs to give us a good reason not to lynch him, either a convincing claim or some other way to demonstrate his innocence, otherwise he is the lynch for today.

This, I agree with. Their jumping on to a competing wagon, solely because it's a competing wagon, seems like the actions of a desperate scum. Would also explain why they're reluctant to post their role pm as a means of clearing themselves.

VOTE: GIS

[RayFrost]

I'd like it if GIS claimed, but I don't think that we are going to have time to switch to substrike regardless of what is claimed, so it'd be purely informational. The fact GIS has stalled so much in claiming and never actually replied to my case don't look good.

@ kdub:

Yeah, that was a

terrible

game on my part. e.e" Jesus, that brings bad memories to the fore. IME, I play better when I replace in. *shrugs* Besides, I'm coming back from a break off of mafia, so yeh. Expect some gameplay changes.

[GandalfIzSik]

Ok we are at L-2 here is our role PM

Friends are a nice thing to have... Heh, heh. Could you be my friend, too? Eh-hee-hee... You have the same smell as the fairy kid who taught me that song in the woods...

Welcome to Ocarina of Time Mafia,

GandalfIzSik

. You are

Skull Kid

. You’re an odd little creature, and you’re terrified of adults. In fact, you’d rather just spend your days playing in the forest...but with the evil that now threatens to overtake Hyrule getting to be more of a problem, you figured it’s time to stop pussyfooting around and take a stand to save your land!

Race:

Verdant Skull Kid

Faction:

Hero

You are a

Bulletproof Area of Effect Magnet

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Child of the Lost Woods

- After spending so much time in the Lost Woods, you’ve learned to melt into the shadows. You are unaffected by normal kills.

Active Abilities:

Mind-Altering Melody

- At night, you may target three players that are next to each other on the player list in the opening post. All actions these players use will be redirected to you for the night.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per phase.

Win Condition (Hero):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Hyrule is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 53&start=0

I meant to post this earlier, but I sent it to reckanomic instead >.<

[RayFrost]

Since you are here, I might as well ask...

did you find cupcake to be particularly scummy based off of the flavor argument that ythan was using to discredit the claim?

Also, what indication did you have to make you say this? According to your rule, you'd have no evidence for this,

especially

considering the fact your role has an elemental modifier.

[GandalfIzSik]

Since you are here, I might as well ask...

did you find cupcake to be particularly scummy based off of the flavor argument that ythan was using to discredit the claim?

Also, what indication did you have to make you say this? According to your rule, you'd have no evidence for this,

especially

considering the fact your role has an elemental modifier.

Ehh, I found it a bit scummy,
and about that post, ask Gand because I have no clue what he meant there. I think that it may have been a flavour speculation based on the game its self.

[Fate]

LOL

A BULLETPROOF FUCKING MAGNET?

HOW IN GODS NAME IS THAT A ROLE YOU "DONT WANT TO CLAIM" AND NEED TO ELABORATELY CRUMB?

HAMMER PL0X

[Ythan]

At this point, my relation with LLD is rather obvious,

as with nikanor

.

stupid stupid stupid

[Ythan]

I find the claim ability- and flavor-plausible. Considering alignment repercussions.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I find the claim ability- and flavor-plausible. Considering alignment repercussions.

Shocker.

I don't.

But now that you've said this, you better not give me any shit about believing Cupcakes claim.

[Aikage]

that roll seems very powerful. it can stop scum from kiilling this game, and people like fate are scared of its power so they watn to lynch it instead since they cant kill a bulletproof townie.

its not enough time for people to lynch fate or ythan (why is no one agreeing with me?? just cause i have no vote?) so i think substrike is much better, but he might claim something good to so i dunno

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't care which one we lynch first, let the off-wagoners decide.

LL is still likely town as hell.

Gandalf still has my vote unless Substrike has surpassed em.

ONE OF EM DIE TODAY THE END IS FINALLY NEAR.

QFT

[Beefster]

How is that role supposed to be pro-town? I highly doubt there would ever be 3 adjacent scum players. (It's highly unlikely) To me it seems like it would end up doing more harm than good because it will most likely be targeting 3 town, possibly 1 scum, probably not any more than that. It's basically a mass (fail) roleblocker.

[RayFrost]

Aikage. GIS is scummy. There's not enough time (imo) to change over to someone else (substrike). The roleclaim's a null tell as far as I'm concerned. There's more reasons to disbelieve it than reasons to believe it, meaning GIS is still scum.

Reasons to disbelieve:

GIS felt it necessary to only hint at the power role when it's a (nigh near) bulletproof role. Simply claiming (especially earlier in the game day) would've clearly been better.
GIS hasn't mentioned any questions they asked for clarification when there's a bit of ambiguity on a bit of that role PM. What do the mods define as "next to" when mentioning the playerlist? Numbered from all players or by those alive? What do the mods define as normal kills? Does the "you can only use one activity per phase" mean that using the active ability removes GIS' immunity to kills? (I'd like to point out that, if it doesn't, the inclusion of that in the PM to GIS is pointless, meaning we aren't getting GIS' full role PM, if that's the actual role PM at all)

Reasons to believe:

I can't think of any of the top of my head.

[Nikanor]

For future reference GIS (I'm saying this because I assume you both want to improve your play), I recommend not waiting until the very last day before deadline to claim. Now we have no choice but to lynch you.

You are unaffected by normal kills.

Pointing this out for later

Also pointing out that Ythan doesn't unvote despite supposedly accepting the mason claim.

[RayFrost]

ITT, nikanor doesn't read my full post.

What do the mods define as normal kills? Does the "you can only use one activity per phase" mean that using the active ability removes GIS' immunity to kills? (I'd like to point out that, if it doesn't, the inclusion of that in the PM to GIS is pointless, meaning we aren't getting GIS' full role PM, if that's the actual role PM at all)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD's interpretation of the Verdant race is correct BTW.

Just like to point out that with GIS' claim, my explination of Verdant is even more likely to be correct.

Kinda off topic, but I felt the need to mention that.

Anyway, I could argue the flavor semantics of GIS' claim... I don't think his faction or powers quite match his role... But that's just another 25 pages of useless shit waiting to happen.

In any case, GIS is the lynch for today. We have under 48 hours to avoid auto NL.

[RayFrost]

Flavor-wise, it's fine.

The point of the previous mention of the verdant being right thing is meh, as the mods could include it as a safeclaim, meaning that it'd have to be viable. Null tell.

[BrookylnConstruction]

Ok... i could hammer right now if people wanted me to. However... let the record be known that i would MUCH rather lynch LLD or Cupcake because both are more scummy, and are more likely to be scum

/rant-what i've been saying the whole game.

[chesskid3]

SUBSTRIKE PL0X

[GandalfIzSik]

Guys really listen to your selves.

We are a very pro-town role, this is dumb and obviously being driven by scum *looks at LLD and LC*

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Guys really listen to your selves.

We are a very pro-town role, this is dumb and obviously being driven by scum *looks at LLD and LC*

LOL REALLY?

HOW ABOUT FATE? OR RAYFROST? OR ANY OTHER NUMBER OF PLAYERS WHO HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR YOUR LYNCH.

BUT NO. YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD SO FAR UP YTHAN'S ASS, YOU CAN ONLY SAY WHAT HE THINKS.

STOP SHEEPING ON HIS INSTICTS, AND MAKE YOUR OWN FUCKING CASES.

That is all.