Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Ythan]

DTM, was that line directed at me intended to say that VTs are better players?

[Beefster]

Looks like there's no shift activated on this game day.

Are you trying to hide something? I missed again.

I get to reuse my power if I miss. When I used it on LLD, I was told she was an invalid target, even though she had a vote.

ROLLING ATTACK: RayFrost's Wagon

[RayFrost]

I don't have any votes, beefster.

I honestly have come to the conclusion that votes actually take place before the rolling attack. If someone were to vote me (assuming no shift), I think they'd get KTFO even though the attack was, chronologically, performed first. Beefster, can you clarify whether this is accurate or not?

[Ythan]

You're saying that the action will affect anyone who votes for the target for the rest of the day..?

[RayFrost]

#1
But fluffposters can be scum as well. I would name you an ongoing game...but I can't. And it wasn't really fluff like some of Bunny's, Chrono's and Aikage's statements that look like they saysomething when they actually don't. But in jmj's case he's only either "I'm rereading" or "Where's your case on me?". So he deliberately stays away when no one's talking about him and pops up when he needs to.
Okay, in hindsight it may have been better if I had chess present his "case" first, true. But I had jmj on my radar for a while now and his last episode just was the last straw that broke the camel's back.

#2
Because I think Substrike is scum, too. And his death would give us more info than jmj's. I don't see that as a flimsy reason at all.

#1: I've seen fluffposters be scum and fluffposters be town. Fluffposting is a null tell at best, imo. Like I said before, though, vigbait and not lynchbait. They could be scum, but they aren't worth the lynch.

#2: That doesn't relate to my point. You brought up heavy focus on the neighbors as a reason to avoid going after jmj when you stated that you believe jmj is scum. The defense of "omg, heavy neighbor involvement man!" is flimsy when trying to explain away a non-vote. Your vote on substrike is fine, but it's not relevant to your initial defense. It's simply a new defense that does not explain the old one.

[RayFrost]

You're saying that the action will affect anyone who votes for the target for the rest of the day..?

I was thinking more along the lines of the possibility that it affects anybody up to next votecount. Might just be crazy just-woke-up ideas, though.

[Nikanor]

Beefster, do this:

ROLLING ATTACK: X's wagon

ROLLING ATTACK: Y's wagon

ROLLING ATTACK: Z's wagon

etc, from order of most preferred to least. Hopefully that will get this over with.

[Ythan]

Instead of just doing what Nik says because he said it you should at least bring it up with the mod first.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

When people figure out this shift, I'll comment more.

But as of right now, fixing this shift is the most important thing.

[RayFrost]

Wrong.

Finding scum is the most important thing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And how, pray tell, do you propose we find scum, when half the game is focusing on this shift?

There's nothing to read off of. I have already presented a case on Substrike and Aikage. If you want to expand on either of those, please ISO them.

Otherwise, there is no current relevant info being added atm.

[Ythan]

So is Lady L just checking out from doing anything at all in this game until the shift is all sorted out, whenever in the game that might be? Is this awesome because she won't post or not because it's a TERRIBLE WAY TO PLAY MAFIA.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm sorry that I have NOTHING TO SAY ON THE CURRENT TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.

Nothing relevant at least.

[RayFrost]

Then go irrelevant.

[Ythan]

Or just don't post.

[jmj3000]

2. Exlion, considering that you claimed

day cop and you now have a frog that is acting like a snitch reads as super pro-town

. It confirms your day-action, therefore AWESOMESAUCE. Frog-snitch person is very pro-town because there would be no scum motivation to

make your actions confirmable publically

.

I missed where we got any explanation of the frog other than from Exilon himself.

Maybe whoever put the frog on him doesn't want to come out because they don't want to out themselves.

[Ythan]

2. Exlion, considering that you claimed

day cop and you now have a frog that is acting like a snitch reads as super pro-town

. It confirms your day-action, therefore AWESOMESAUCE. Frog-snitch person is very pro-town because there would be no scum motivation to

make your actions confirmable publically

.

I missed where we got any explanation of the frog other than from Exilon himself.

Maybe whoever put the frog on him doesn't want to come out because they don't want to out themselves.

And so he must be super town and it confirms his action..how?

[Ythan]

Your post reads as "frog tells us his results" but I'm not seeing that.

[RayFrost]

Ythan has the right of it here.

We have no confirmation as to what happens from the frog's existence. We also have no confirmation as to who the frog creator is or what they meant to do with said frog. To assume that what exilon said is the truth about something that impacts him is kinda stupid.

[jmj3000]

What I want to know is why exilon hasn't copped anyone. Does he not want to confirm himself?

[Beefster]

Votecount Please.

[RayFrost]

What I want to know is why exilon hasn't copped anyone. Does he not want to confirm himself?

He hasn't exactly been online, has he? Wait a bit.

[Exilon]

How do I cop someone safely while a shift/no-shift is possible? We had all agreed first we figure the shift, then I daycop.

In any case, the frog is giving me some bad vibes. Mainly because of the cuckoo from Day 1, but also because of the flavour in the PM, since it said it might 'snitch' at me. Whatever that is supposed to mean.

Not only that, but for me to have a frog means that someone targetted me. And if someone targetted me, either that person knows about the shift, or there is no shift. Which leads to some other implications, but let's leave this at that.

[RayFrost]

Exilon, target a mason other than LL. This information is useful if we ever manage to figure out the shift or if there isn't a shift. At this point, I don't see much of a chance that we can get shift information, and it's slowing this game to a crawl.

My personal advice? Lynch substrike today. If we are going to lynch a mason, then it should be nikanor, imo.

[chesskid3]

is the deadline tomorrow?