1.
Ythan this post. Yes I responded to the point you made about my view on Chess' role and information gained from his lynch versus letting him activate his ability. I apologize though since I trailed off but tl:dr version is: Letting Chess use his role is more beneficial to town in terms of risk management and information.
This means that Chess must use his ability at the latest 2 cycles before the predictable lylo situation to assess how valid his claim his due to the suicide clause in his role. This gives us time to lynch him if he is lying, etc, etc you know the rest
. If we do not trust Chess we direct Chess. If Chess doesn't do as directed and is alive, we caught the scum-chess he is.
2. This post
here by Ythan. If Exlion is telling the truth he said specifically that this frog is a snitch (public displays seen here in this quote)
Exlion wrote:What is up with me having an EyeballFrog staring at me? My PM said it might snitch at me publically if I tried to do something today. It also said I could choose to kill it during the day phase instead of invesrtigating someone. That is obv not happening, but could this be related to the Cuccoos from D1?
If you consider what the
frog does based on Exlion's claim the action is very pro-town. There is no scum-reason to publicly have Exlion's result shown in a public form after his cop-claim. The action reads as pro-town.
It's called inferring the intentions on the person's actions. At face value this frog = good. If the frog was something to kill Exlion, then it's an anti-town action and the interpretation is anti-town.
Since when is inferring what is claimed off to you?
Also Exlion
Use your brain. Why would scum want to know who you'd target? If you are the town cop scum wants you dead, not alive to confirm your targets via "snitching". Only TOWN PLAYERS WOULD WANT TO KNOW YOUR TARGET LIKE A BACKUP COP
. Brain sez: this is what happening.
I seriously challenge anyone to find the scum motivation in a "snitching frog" on the day cop. Why would scum
confirm the day-cop with a snitching frog that records public actions
. This was outlined in Exlion's frog claim, and I don't see it.
3. Flavour soft claim is null. I thought we been over this is the history of Dram and fake claims. Subsequent discussion is noisy.
4. I find Chess' stance on Gandalf disturbing on many levels. I'm reviewing over page 6-8 on his iso reads and See the following changes on Chess' view on Gandalf Hydra
chesskid3 wrote:Ok well this will probably be my last content post, based on current progression.
I'm a slow starter in games, especially online. I take awhile to get reads, and until I do I am usually just noise (see Lost S1 if you want). That doesn't mean I am a VI - in fact I chose scum on D1 and he got vigged n1 as a result, and I found scum on D2 as well, though failtown lynched the Beloved Princess's guard.
For me, mafia is a game of deceit and cunning, where you have to analyze arguments to figure out who is only faking suspects because they actually already know who the scum are, and how pairs of players interact.
That's mafia for me. When I end up playing with people like Ythan who turn it into a constant series of ad hominum attacks, it ceases to be enjoyable. And yes, I do sink to that level, but that doesn't mean that's the only level I can play at.
Scummy vibes from all the people on this list. IMO most of the scum will be here.
Chronopie
Dekes
Gandalf
jmj3000
Untod
mothrax
I'd explain, but I'd just get buried under piles of attacks from anyone I just FoSed, along with other random people for OMGUSing everyone who is voting for me. This is not true at all. Some of the votes on me I read as town/can't read at all because posting in ALLCAPS NOCONTENT is not my specialty.
So, there's my FOSes. Peace.
I will respond to civil inquiries.
chesskid3 wrote:Gandalf is schizo
chesskid3 wrote:Chronopie wrote:^Gandalf is a Hydra. With problems between the heads obv.
I know, and it's hilarious.
chesskid3 wrote:GandalfIzSik wrote:Fate wrote:Still D1?
lulz
QFT
By the way, I BEG Chess not to suicide tonight. Like, please don't. BTW, what if I told you guys I could make it to where I was the only one vanillarized? Should I? I would say I'm a reasonably important PR, BTW.
haha one head wants a policy lynch on me, the other wants me to not sui tonite.
No worries, I'm not suiing.
chesskid3 wrote:I will join the GIS wagon, but if GIS flips town, Dekes is confscum.
Read his post about joining the GIS wagon if you don't believe me. (Also read a few of his other posts, he's scum skirting under the radar).
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Vote: GIS
I don't mind the transition because it does read like Chess is feeling the VI influence after the fact. It's consistence with his stance that he felt that there was scummier people. But Chess just lied that he was fully opposed since he did call Gandalf scummy earlier on and he herpa derped onto the wagon. This is pretty bad in reflection of Chess' posts on page 96. I believe I was one of few people who raised concerns over this (abet late in terms of role but I raised meta concerns over Shotty's play) in regards to Gandalf. It's after the fact, I wouldn't have cried if he was vig killed (Ihmo I believe that I raised concerns on Beefster over this)
This quote:
DTMaster wrote:Beefster wrote:How is that role supposed to be pro-town? I highly doubt there would ever be 3 adjacent scum players. (It's highly unlikely) To me it seems like it would end up doing more harm than good because it will most likely be targeting 3 town, possibly 1 scum, probably not any more than that. It's basically a mass (fail) roleblocker.
I found this post odd now. I read GIS' role and the above argument sounds like:
This role has anti-town, as most pro-town roles have anti-town elements (i.e. town RB, town doc, CPR doc, cops that are not sane, jailkeepers, vigs, etc) rather then this claim sucks and it's scummy. The purpose is to self direct kills to his bullet proofness (which is the second one claimed in this game lols). It can also direct actions. It doesn't stop cop investigations, nor role blocks, nor whatever.
This role actually makes more sense as a role that a townie could epiclly use to save the town or hurt the town (hence double edge sword). Much like Chess' claim. I don't see why this role = scummy when your arguments show how it fits in the town really well as a role that could do good or bad things depending on how you use it.
Here validates my original point on Beefster with a confirmed town flip on GIS based on his role argument alone. Selfnote reread Beefster.
Break time. Fewd!
