Stars Aligned III - The Tenth Day

[VasudeVa]

Kat, dead people don't flip upon death. We need graverobbers for flips.

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[El Goosuki]

...

Oh...

[Wickedestjr]

Still behind. I skimmed the thread and noticed Seacore's grave rob plan. I still think Furcolow should grave rob. The whole point is to have us do it, because we're both nearly confirmed town. Nobody else is confirmed town.

Also, just throwing it out there: Seacore, kunkstar7, and VP Baltar are probably not going murderer, because none of them did last game. Therefore, I don't think any of them should grave rob, because I still think focusing the grave robbing on murderers is the best decision.

[Wraith]

I suppose I'll figure out why you think manho is scum in a few hours or so.

manho was thoroughly useless, popping in to make comments and votes under horribad logic. That's pretty much the gist of it.

[Seacore]

Wicked, we can't use Furc in the grave rob because he's admitted that he won't follow our plan.

While I'm not going murderer, you can't necessarily trust my last game record, as I replaced out D1

Kunk is not being given the graverob unless he's one of the top wagons, which is a good policy. Most of us agree that putting pro-town people alongside scum with the graverob is safe


@Spyrex, I abandoned ElG because it just wasn't happening, too many people don't find them scummy enough. Problem is, I don't like kunk or MoI for the lynch, I just don't find them scummy enough. BS though, I'm happy with that.
If it comes down to it, I'll lynch MoI or kunk to prevent a no lynch.

[xvart]

Ooooohhh... Fate had an insanity. That changes a few things.

Dispatch: Fate

More coming later with responses after my last post.

xvart.

[VP Baltar]

lol @ xvart

[Seacore]

um, xvart? Why are you voting for something that has already happened?

[xvart]

Huh? Now I'm confused.

xvart.

[VasudeVa]

Dispatch: Fate

L+2. Oh yeah.

[VP Baltar]

Oh, and I agree with Seacore. I just don't think your graverob plan is the right choice for the situation Wicked. We only know of one murderer at this point. I really think we're better off to try to shut down/up the insanities of cult and track the murderer with equipment.

preview edit:

Dispatch: Fate

pewpewpewpewpewpewpew

[Benmage]

I'm confused....why does Fate having an insanity make people more eager to dispatch him? It makes me believe him to have been an investigator who lied, and sought to become a murderer.

[Seacore]

Grave Rob Roster

RC = VP, 2nd Wagonee
Fate = Benmage, 3rd Wagonee
LB = Wicked, 3rd Wagonee
Lynchee = Hito, 2nd Wagonee

Agreement List

Those definitely partaking

Benmage - Agreed
hitorogoshi - Agreed
VP Baltar - Agreed
Wickedestjr

Those potentially partaking

Baby Spice
El Goosuki
kunkstar7 - Agreed
MagnaofIllusion

Those unlikely partaking

Andrius
AurorusVox
Feysal
Furpants_Tom - Agreed
manho
Nicodemus
nopointinactingup
Plum
Seacore - Agreed
SpyreX
totallynotmafia
Triglav - Disagreed
Trilobite
VasudeVa - Agreed
Wraith
xvart


waiting for Wicked, MoI, ElG and BS to agree to the plan. Other agreements are also appreciated.

[Seacore]

I'm confused....why does Fate having an insanity make people more eager to dispatch him? It makes me believe him to have been an investigator who lied, and sought to become a murderer.

AAAGHH!! Why does nobody understand the rules. We found out Fate has an insanity

BY

dispatching him!

[Trilobite]

Dispatch: Fate

It's the obvious move now afterall.

[Trilobite]

^ (Knows he's already dispatched just in case anyone takes that seriously.)

[Trilobite]

BTW Seacore, where is Furc on your list?

[Seacore]

BTW Seacore, where is Furc on your list?

He's already publicly stated he's not going to contribute, so why bother?

[SpyreX]

Isn't he dispatched? GUYSSS

@VP:

Watching the amount of awesome (i.e. none) from ElG and that wagon dissipate is MORE than a little troubling.

[Iecerint]

We didn't have Dispatch in SA2, but, looking over the rules, I don't see any reason not to use it liberally. What am I missing?

[Seacore]

@ Icerint,

There were two arguments against it 1) Let's wait and do it when we have less bodies, to decrease the chance of it fucking up and the cult ending up with corpse dust
2) Let's never do it, because Fate was probably town and it might help us out with our scum v town ratio

Both turned out to be false, so dispatching was correct.

[VasudeVa]

Seacore what do you mean by 'both turned out to be false'?

[El Goosuki]

El Goosuki agrees to the plan, if only to keep itself from doing stupid night actions.

-DGB

[Wraith]

I can grave-rob tonight if I get a rez. If I'm not getting a rez I'm using my own.

[xvart]

This is correct. I am robbing one grave, because I am also killing tonight. And I'd like to rob Fate. Although I'll rob whomever.

Why do you want to rob Fate? Does it matter? Does it matter now that Fate doesn't have whatever item he said he searched for last night?

Much more suspicious is the fact that both Baby Spice and xvart claimed to have warded MoI. It could happen, but it is also a possible false claim for the cult. Originally I thought xvart was more suspect, but my opinion of him has improved since. Baby Spice was the first to claim, but she could have known MoI had been warded due to the failure of a craft fetish action, so she could still be cult.

This is an interesting thought, and it makes me interested in a Baby Spice lynch more today without the RC flip; however, to be honest, the appeal of a Baby Spice lynch would probably lean more to informational despite her scumminess, but I guess either (or both) would be good. Consider me pro Baby Spice lynch if we want to go that route.

Obviously if Fate flips cult, (Which is at least possible now if not likely.) we have to wonder about the people who were so adamant that his flip wasn't necissary.

Actually, if Fate flips Cult I'm going to have a wary eye on Benmage, especially considering his desire to rob Fate's grave.

I'm confused....why does Fate having an insanity make people more eager to dispatch him? It makes me believe him to have been an investigator who lied, and sought to become a murderer.

I think it is possible that some Cult might have Crafted 3 Fetishes if they thought they were unlikely to get Communed early based on play. I'm not sure if Fate falls into this category or not, but the same might be true of Lost Butterfly. However, having an insanity on D1 means he is either Cult or Stalker, so knowing that information is going to be beneficial long term because we can look at player interactions with Fate to see if there are any Cult bags avoiding a desire to lynch Cult Fate.

I'm really not liking Benmage's thoughts on Fate post Insanity information, but I can't quite piece it all together.

xvart.