Objection Redux - It's all over bar the shouting!

[Faraday]

So everyone surrounded Vuvuzela. Then he was lynched. Oh no a Murder Death Kill!

VasudeVa -

Phoenix Wright - Vanilla Town

has been lynched day 1

It's now Night 1, you have 48 hours to get your night choices in.

[Faraday]

DTMaster replaces Papa Zito

[Faraday]

The day dawns and everyone wakes up after getting a good night sleep. Sleep is important, it keeps you healthy.

But wait, 2 people didn't get that great of a sleep. THEY'RE DEAD.

Rhinox -

Monfred Von Karma -Mafia Goon

- has been killed night 1
Vi -

Will Powers - Vanilla Townie

has been killed night 1

So a bloody night! Day 2 dawns with 11 left alive. It takes 6 to lynch.

[magnus_orion]

I look forward to thoughts from DTMaster.

My request of reads from vezok still stands.

[AlmasterGM]

Uhm...yeah. I suppose an apology to magnus is in order.

[vezokpiraka]

I am so stupid. I forgot to use my role last night.


I'll give my reads when my head doesn't hurt.

[AlmasterGM]

You forgot to use your role AND your iso is basically 11 posts of nothing.

HURRRR.

[UncertainKitten]

Yes, I await some solid info from DTMaster as well. Let's see if he can dig out of the shithole PZ dug for him.
I'll have to reassess m_o, but it's *possible* Rhinox's flip should change my view of him.

Regardless, I'll do this later cause I have work to do.

[Gammagooey]

Guys, I have an important three step process to lynching scum.

Step1:Read Elli's iso

Step2:Vote Elli

Step3:PARTYTIME

Vote: Ellibereth

[SpyreX]

Yeaaa, maybe I am a vig.

Maybe I shot Rhinox.

I still want vezo dead

Unvote, Vote: vezo

[AlmasterGM]

Vote: Vezo

[Fate]

Oh that's so fucking rich. Right up until the 11th hour VV REFUSED to comment on his Rhinoxerousness

Even in his final player list.

So yeah VV, here I am saying I'M NOT SORRY FOR THAT LYNCH.

MAGNUS LAME VOTE ON RHINOX + HIS POST DJOUR OF: Herp rhinoz flipped scum and all I want for christmas is dtm and vezok to post content so I can fade into the background leads me to:

Why the hell is he town SpyreX?

[Fate]

I still haven't read end of day shennanigans but I'm guessing Zito replaced out over some Civility drama BS.

I support a vezok claim, if only to give the vig a reason to/not to shoot him tonight

[SpyreX]

Maybe I'm wrong on that it WAS a gut read afterall.

It doesn't change wanting vezok to eat death though after said shenanigans.

[Fate]

Meh I think vezok is town, but well go through the motions and get a claim cause of said townvig.

Its town lists time also now so the vig has more reads, and of course I elect princess ellie to go first

[SpyreX]

You keep saying townvig instead of SpyreX murderer of Rhinox, slayer of Tiamat.

Why you gotta hat.

[SocioPath]

Vote: Mango

Wooooooooooooooo.
Mango is totally the play for today.


The Elli push is fine too.

[Fate]

You keep saying townvig instead of SpyreX murderer of Rhinox, slayer of Tiamat.

Why you gotta hat.

Cuz I was TRYN to keep our los mason gambito open and now we got em drinlkin dat wine so cool

We iz having vezok claim so you can slay dangerous demons at night instead of fairies

[SocioPath]

Also, PZ got replaced the same day that he last posted, as soon as the night hit.
That jumps him up the list by a WEE BIT, considering his posts and his relation to me.
i.e. frustrated scum who has been declawed and cannot stand that fact and gets attacked for it.

[AlmasterGM]

Meh I think vezok is town

Wut. Why. Look at his last three posts.

unvote
vote Magnus

You sir are way to scummy to not be lynched today.

unvote
vote VV

Yeah this is the superior wagon. We can think about Magnus tomorrow.

I am so stupid. I forgot to use my role last night.


I'll give my reads when my head doesn't hurt.

It's like, "LOLOL look at me contradict myself and wagon hop around with no justification at all, then softclaim so i don't die right away and have time to stall some more. oh yeah and in total ive made 11 one-liner posts."

[Faraday]

Vote count 2.1

Ellibereth (1)

GammaGooey

Vezokpiraka (2)

SpyreX, AlmasterGM

magnus_orion (1)

Sociopath

Not voting (7):

UncertainKitten, Fate, Jahudo, Vezokpiraka, , Ellibereth, magnus_orion, DTMaster

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline's 17th of December at 3pm GMT.

[Jahudo]

scum in {VV, MO, UK, Vezok, Jahudo}.

This kind of quote sounds like a good opportunity for scum to distance from a buddy. I think there's a good shot at 1 scum in here.

unvote: vezok. Softclaim is meh and she still hasn't done anything but there are better lynches

I don't know if this is the response scum would do when another soft claims. It probably wouldn't be something planned in advance if vezok was scum. Players would have a natural aversion to it. It might be seen as an opportunity to at least pressure a buddy into playing more actively, explaining reads, etc. He acknowledges these problems but doesn't take a very strong tone so I don't see a scum connection here.

Iso 3: "Because Vi is a lot more valuable than 50% of you put together, as town or scum. She will not be lynched today." - this is pretty scummy if Vi is scum she is not more valuable than anyone.

This could be a way for scum to distance from each other safely. Vi was town and destined to die N1 it seems, so the tell is gone from UK but the accusation from Rhinox is always there. But it is possible he was just trying to pad his case.

So, I think MO might be scum but I want to make sure I'm not biased because he thinks I'm scum. Part of me wonders why hypo-scum MO would attempt to derail the VV wagon unless they were scum together, but town MO could legitimately slow the lynch if he wasn't confident it was the best choice.

The MO wagon is gaining alot of steam at this point but he's acting more hesitant over it than the VV wagon. Maybe that means he was against it, but when he talks about not wanting to seem biased I picture him wanting to be on the wagon but fearing any backlash. I think this was a sign that he was willing to see MO or VV get lynched, but cautious in case MO survived and either had some night power or good case come back around to get Rhinox.

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I am so stupid. I forgot to use my role last night.

I still don't care about this. For all I know you are a VT and trying to pull some gambit. There are plenty of players like this that "softclaims" have become meh to me.
But I still think you could do some scumhunting. How about it? Is MO still scummy? Why / why not?

[magnus_orion]

Oh that's so fucking rich. Right up until the 11th hour VV REFUSED to comment on his Rhinoxerousness

Even in his final player list.

So yeah VV, here I am saying I'M NOT SORRY FOR THAT LYNCH.

MAGNUS LAME VOTE ON RHINOX + HIS POST DJOUR OF: Herp rhinoz flipped scum and all I want for christmas is dtm and vezok to post content so I can fade into the background leads me to:

Why the hell is he town SpyreX?

How, exactly, do you think I'm trying to fade into the background?

Meh I think vezok is town, but well go through the motions and get a claim cause of said townvig.

Its town lists time also now so the vig has more reads, and of course I elect princess ellie to go first

Ok, what cause do you have for believing vezok town?

[Gammagooey]

I could DEAL with a vezok lynch. But a mangoes lynch? Seriously follow my amazing steps and read Elli's iso.
It consists of fluff, only mentioning the town part of the scumtastic pair, and one question to vezok.

Mangoes isn't the most fantastic of all isos but he has words on everyone, was one of the only people to actually vote Rhino, and his fencesitting could easily be townz overelaborating on a weak comparative read.

SOCIO GET ON THIS WAGON YOURS IS SILLY.

[SocioPath]

Mangoes isn't the most fantastic of all isos but he has words on everyone

Words != Not Scum

SOCIO GET ON THIS WAGON YOURS IS SILLY.

ITS NOT SILLY DAMMIT.
But your wagon is good too.

Unvote
Vote: Elli