Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

AKR, pay more attention.

JMJ was Biggron. Mauled to death N2.

This is consistent with Aikage's claim.

[AKnottedRope]

I'm just sitting here, herpin' and derpin' then.

[DTMaster]

BL: Yeah, that's what I think happened. Ihmo this wasn't what I was expecting ><;;l.

Ythan can confirm if Aikage is an inventor pretty much.

[DTMaster]

I did a quick post check on Ythan. His story checks out.

[DTMaster]

Mannn Beefster are you happy now. Remember what these "contradictions were" when he didn't full claim. Well the reasons for why Aikage thought he could kill and why Aikage targeted Fate/Ythan was obvious pre-claim. /rant.

This doesn't change anything that I've been stressing out all day. >>;;

[DTMaster]

AKR:
1. I find it odd that now that you have Aikage's claim you're not weighing in to his alignment. You were so strongly for this full claim and was ready to do your scum hunting arguments that your "herp derp" stances are really dumb. It's kind of scummy that you're not making town/scum calls based on what you got.

2. I'm curious to what you think of BL. I remember that you called her scummy before

Along comes bunny reeking of scum. Now I've got another person to read.

Oh and read DTM's posts today, those will give you a good summary of the main wagon yesterday. Also, good luck reading a 120 page game. Tip: skip everything before page 60. None of that really matters.

You kind of make these judgement calls without doing anything when BL was being attacked. Where did your case go?

[DTMaster]

FYI: My personal read on BL is that she's trying very hard to understand this game. To me this is giving me town vibes (ie the recent responses are indicators of someone trying hard).

[AKnottedRope]

Because I just got more than 5 minutes to look at this game now? Chill.

I believe Aikage's claims, so leaning town atm (though annoying town).

Haven't had time to read BL well.

[Ythan]

Ythan can you verify that Aikage gave you an invention?

I cannot verify that he did. But it was night one, right? I get why he thinks I'm confirmed town but he's wrong. There are factors he did not consider and I'm not going into that any further right now. I'm still town but he didn't think through his reasoning as to why I must be.

As for the claim, the role is believable. Alignment is up in the air but I'm satisfied for now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

On the bright side, I'm sure we'll find scum on the Aikage wagon.

[SensFan]

Hello!

Reading up now, might take a day or two.

[DTMaster]

Night 2. Aikage claimed he actioned you N2. He actioned Fate N1.

Wait. Why is there conflicting claims here. Aikage claimed that he actioned Ythan (ie. gave an invention) and Ythan didn't receive it. I know where and why the original arguments were flawed. However, Aikage-newb still was adamant about who he targeted. V.V;; It's something to ponder, and multiple explanations to why Ythan said he didn't get an invention.

@AKR
It's not 5 minutes. It's something that has been on your plate since the start of your day when you attacked BL. That's not an excusable reason to brush my attack under the rug because you've "suddenly" got time to post now.

Give me reasons on why you are making these points. Show me how Aikage is town/scum (just like what you did). I shouldn't need to ask you what your reads are based on the claim when you were calling Aikage scum all day. Stating information for the sake of information is scummy since you're blowing hot air. You're demonstrating how uncommitted you are to your cases. Town show more care in their scum hunting. Scum generally don't.

[Chronopie]

Wait. Did Aikage account for a shift? Is there even a night shift? I don't know.

[Bunnylover]

Well Aikage should use his second power to see what he tried to give Ythan. Maybe Ythan did get something, but he himself doesn't even know that he recieved something. Like maybe one of his invention is invisible or something, i don't know what his power can do or possesses.

[Kdub]

Welcome to the game SensFan. Please address this point, which was directed to your predecessor:

nameloc, am I correct in saying that there is NO way at all for you to remove the votes on you? If that is the case, I think at some point before lylo, you should full claim and voluntarily sacrifice yourself by targeting zwet at night. I don't think you need to do it just yet, but once we hit a few more scum, we can't afford to have a reduced lynch threshold. Are you willing to do so?

Aikage's claim seems plausible. What is the "Anti-Sleeper" bit about though? And Aikage, did you give the same invention to Ythan that you gave to Fate N1? Is that even allowed by your role? If you didn't, what made you think that Ythan was town when you targeted him?

Well Aikage should use his second power to see what he tried to give Ythan. Maybe Ythan did get something, but he himself doesn't even know that he recieved something. Like maybe one of his invention is invisible or something, i don't know what his power can do or possesses.

The wording of Aikage's ability seems to imply that the target is told that they received the invention with some description. That means that since Ythan claims to not have received anything, there was either a redirection/roleblock, or one of Aikage/Ythan is lying.

Also, perhaps I'm biased because I think Bunnylover is scummy, but I'm reading this post as "Hey Aikage, use your other ability so that you don't give the town any useful powers tonight".

[DTMaster]

Hmm.. I wonder if the shift occurs at night. Nikanor claimed in game that the shift was day-only. Masons can you verify thisÉ

[Bunnylover]

@Kdub: It would be scummy if his powers were used at different times. He gives an invention away during the Day, at night he can unlock his invention and description.
And because of this, his powers are affected by the shift (at least the one with given the invention away).
@Aikage: Who did you target Day 1, Day 2, and Day 3 with your ability? I know we already said it, but I want to hear it from you again. So far its been Day 1 - Fate. Day 2 - Ythan, Day 3 - xxxx (might be good not to say Day 3 who you gave an invention to). Also, did you receive any information about the invention you gave when they received it? By confirming who you gave, we can ask the right people to see if they got the invention or not (Shift).

[Ythan]

I highly doubt I got an invisible gift. It's certainly possible that night actions are randomized.

[Ythan]

Correction, it's a day ability. Since those seem to definitely be randomized he may have just missed. Even though I'm pretty sure we cleared the shift up.

[DTMaster]

Oh you know what I think. It's going to make us face palm. Aikage actioned at night and invalidated everything ><;;;

[DTMaster]

If you think about it, if Aikage tried actioning at night with a day ability... then lols....... oh gawd..... ><;;;.

[vezokpiraka]

WHAAAAT?
That is so stupid. If it's still a day ability send something to someone. To prove your ability.

[Kdub]

Hmm, didn't notice that it was a day ability. But in that case, wouldn't the mod have told him that his action was invalid if he tried to submit it during the night? Aikage, can you clarify?

[mothrax]

Perhaps it defaulted to the next day and fate would have received something D2. YThan might get his this twighlight.

[Bunnylover]

If you think about it, if Aikage tried actioning at night with a day ability... then lols....... oh gawd..... ><;;;.

At first reading I was like "What?"
Re-read it -facepalm-
Aikage did you try to use your Day ability at Night ._.?
If you did, then its not too late to confirm your role.