Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Ythan]

Bunny, then why are you focusing on me?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Bunny: I refuse to believe anyone is this stupid.

The goddesses of Hyrule are masons, allignment confirmed.

The Sages of Hyrule are neighbors, not allignment confirmed.

Both have a QT, and function similarly, but masons know they can trust eachother, while Neighbors can't take that at face value (as seen by substrike).

[Ythan]

As seen even earlier by a suspiciously specific mod confirmation of masons only.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That too Ythan xD

[Beefster]

You're left with: You agree with me. But you think I'm scum. Like wut?

It can happen.

After I debunked your arguments (ie. the redirection argument, and that BE was the day killer) by posting mod confirmed information and wiki role information you are left with actually no case outside of that.

True.

Scum players dislike cases made on them and sometimes when it happens it can strike a nerve they go and retaliate. You're not being town. I'm asking you to produce a case. You're going I DONT NEED TO BECAUSE I QUESTION OTHER PEOPLE SO YOUR ASKING IS INVALID is not a town response.

If you actually cared about the case on me you'd attack me. I shouldn't need to ask you to attack me, nor should I need to direct your actions so that you remove my vote to see if a day shift is occuring. But oh look, I'm doing that now. Herp derp.

I was waiting for a vote I disagreed with or a volunteer. You pointed out a good reason for me to roll attack you, and while I agree with the vote, it was basically a volunteering moment.

I haven't really objected to many cases on me. They're wrong, of course, but logical.

Nor does it look like you care about your case against me. Especially when you changed to Vezok and BL wagons, you don't even advance your attack on me at the same time. I have a gut read on BL earlier (based on her trying to think of alternative points of view during the Aikage wagons) that read as town. Vezok is plain bad scum from my reads. I'd prefer Vezok over BL in this wagon, and I may oppose the BL wagon. I need to reread BL, but the way things are I dislike your entire play today.

I think I might be wrong about my original accusation. The vote at the beginning of today was only temporary, following the previous day's arguments until I had time to think it out. Now that I have, I realize that I made a mistake.

[Le Cupcake]

Yeah, we've been rather apathetic to this game. Does not help that my other head hasn't read at all.

If one of you has a revive ability, reviving nikanor would be perfect. That way I wouldn't be all alone with only dram to talk to in my QT

[Le Cupcake]

And DGB, did you forget about the analysis? Or are you scum and require a shot from me again...

[Chronopie]

VOTE: Bunnylover I know I said Null-Scummy yesterday, but that he's continuing to display his ignorance on the mason/neighbour issue justifies a vote. I still wouldn't mind seeing Vezo hang either.

[Beefster]

@bunny: think about it. If the goddesses are not alignment-confirmed, why aren't they attacking each other? Your argument really doesn't hold water.

Consider the following:
-A group of 3 masons are, for some strange reason, NOT alignment confirmed.
-One of them is scum, 2 are town. One of the townies dies later.
-The scum will probably attack the townie at some point.
-The townie will attack the scum if he thinks he is scum.

Say our masonry is as such. (WHICH IT ISN'T) Considering Cupcake's play, LLD would be attacking Cupcake right now, (rather than just chastising, which I could see happening in reality) regardless of her actual alignment. Considering the fact that they

are mod alignment-confirmed and Nikanor flipped Din, why are you still attacking LLD?

[Beefster]

VOTE: Bunnylover I know I said Null-Scummy yesterday, but that he's continuing to display his ignorance on the mason/neighbour issue justifies a vote. I still wouldn't mind seeing Vezo hang either.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with changing your mind over time.

[Chronopie]

How many scum do we think are left out of the 13 living players?

I'm guessing Orange/Twinrova-SK is eliminated. (Finally, that was a headache in itself.)

And maybe 3 each Poe and Boss.

so that's 7:3:3 in my estimations.

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Town

LLD
Cupcake
Chrono
*Impa*

Null*

DTM
Beefster
Ythan
AKR
Mothrax (?)
DGB (?)
ABR (?)

Scum* (No distinction for sides)

Vezo
Zwet
Bunny
ABR (?)
DGB (?)
Mothrax (?)

[Le Cupcake]

Anyone wanna find the list of claims for me? I can't find them.

[mothrax]

Bunny though he/she is at L-1 is town. Rage and the fact that if bunny doesnt understand something as town, bunny asks. I don't consider bunny skilled enough to play against meta, so my conditional meta fails argument is not applicable.

DGB is scum guys: she provided VCA for two days ago but never followed up. Other than that she has been hardcore sheeping/lurking.

Vote DGB

[Ythan]

Beefster please talk about something other than pointless hypotheticals.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mothrax, I really hate that last post of yours.

I want BL claiming, and then I want pressure on Mothrax tommorow :S

Esspecially if BL were to flip scum.

[Ythan]

And Beef?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Beef is either A) coming to his senses or B) backpeddling

Buy the fact he's been able to prove his rolling attack again, and how he's used it to help town, I'm either null or leaning town on him for now.

[Ythan]

Thank you Lady! Bunny claim!

[AKnottedRope]

Unvote

Beefster, I'm curious. Did anything happen to you?

[mothrax]

Mothrax, I really hate that last post of yours.

I want BL claiming, and then I want pressure on Mothrax tommorow :S

Esspecially if BL were to flip scum.

Orly? What is it you hate about it, the fact that I disagree with you? I have a town read on bunny, I don't want an accidental hammer happening.

[AKnottedRope]

Reading through Ythan Iso post.
Incredible I found shit. The only scummy thing he has done has been his sudden disappearance during Day 3 which was due to finals (semester ending)
His play is consistence throughout each day.
If Ythan is scum, what will be his downfall is his Townish play early on to his lurkish play at the moment.
I am still suspicious of Ythan, even though my try at making a case on him failed, but at the moment he has shown he is town, and I even believed he breadcrumbed a few time.
Right now these are my reads:
Town: DTM, LLD, ChronoPie
Null: Beefster, Ythan (for now), AKR, Mothrax, Zwet, ABR,
Scum/Scummy: Le Cupcake (Their was one scum in one of the mason group, its not a long shot to say their can't be one in the other mason group. Also the fact that Cupcake just comes in, votes, doesn't explain anything, then leaves), Vezo (Pro Lurker is pro), DGB (Already stated why)

For the Null, I am leaning more on this:
Null Town: Beefster, ABR, Ythan
Null Scum: Zwet (Lurker), AKR and Mothrax (haven't seen a great amount of contribution)

DTM: I was going to explain my suspicion of bunny, but this post says more than anything I could. Just... yeah.

Bunny: diescumdie

[AKnottedRope]

Pardon the triple post, but no one hammer yet. Beefster needs to answer my question to him first.

[Ythan]

When we do determine the lynch we have ample time to discuss any other matters that players may wish to clarify before night.

[AKnottedRope]

But his answer will determine where I place my vote and suspicions.

[Ythan]

I'm adding to your suggestion that we wait a bit.