Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Katsuki]

Go for it. You guys probably won't hear from us again until D6.

[DTMaster]

Kk, I understand the super dense argument now (needed to reconstruct it since I didn't finish that thought).

Cupcake: Flips, allow me to finish my re-evaluation to complete my thoughts. I've prepared two town derived kills during the day and I had lots of luck to set this up. I'm finding that there's a weird assumption that Mothrax has. I'm leaning towards him for some odd reason. I want to understand his reasoning. I want to sleep on the Vezok possibility. I also want to sleep on Zwet since I understand the role assumption. But his play is still analogous to the Vezok issue.

Also Cupcake. I have a base covered in regards to your statement about DGB. That's all I have to say, and would like you to run with that.

[DTMaster]

Mothrax can you go over your case on Chrono/AKR now? AKR can you confirm these statements. I want this public. I want to understand your scum hunting methodology and why you formed these arguments. In addition answer my other questions.

There's something odd because I don't remember Mothrax raising a public statement against Chrono. Maybe AKR, but it doesn't match for some reason. I'll reread to confirm.

[Le Cupcake]

Dumb it down a bit, I feel dim at the moment.

[DTMaster]

I'm not one of the 3 claimed ones, nor will I be after claiming. But I got a base covered using a different method. It should be clear now.

Blue + 1/3 DGB's claim = What I think.

[vezokpiraka]

@DTM: I didn't try and find something wrong in DGB claim. I just like reading claims and I found the dot issue. After that about 7 pages ABR started saying about the not crossed out name and I could n't understand why nobody saw the point. So I said that to end the argument. Hope this makes sense.

[AKnottedRope]

DTM, I can't understand your posts....

[Reckamonic]

BIG DADDY: "Wow. No votes have changed."
PLUSHIE: "There's still four on DGB..."
BIG DADDY: "Hmm... kinda like there's four days..."
PLUSHIE: "And four hours..."
BIG DADDY: "Until you're here in my arms again!"

DGB (4): Albert B. Rampage, Le Cupcake, VezokPiraka, DTMaster

Not voting: Mothrax, Ythan, AKnottedRope, Lady Lambdadelta, zwetschenwasser, DrippingGoofball

DRIPPINGGOOFBALL HAS A FROG ON HER HEAD!

Deadline is on the 16th...?
10 alive, it's 6 to lynch

[DTMaster]

1. Vezok. Um.. considering that ABR said that DGB's PM didn't have a name crossed out (before it was a mod confirmed failure), doesn't that mean you would be reviewing the claim because something was wrong? If ABR's argument made sense and you wanted to strengthen the point so people understood it, wouldn't you be reviewing the PM? Finding the dot means you're rereading the PM.

Your explanation doesn't make sense with the motive in strengthening ABR's position.

2. AKR. What part in particular?

[mothrax]

So let me get this straight? Your kill doesnt come through untill twilight correct? At that point if all goes according to plan, we will have lynched DGB who I assume you plan to shoot?

So a wasted lynch/daykill. So you shoot DGB, we lynch someone else in that case. If you don't follow through, we go from there.

That makes sense to me. I would rather see someone else hang.

vote vezo

He sheeps the whole game and just adds one liners untill this point. High likelyhood for him to be the other scum faction.

[vezokpiraka]

So let me get this straight? Your kill doesnt come through untill twilight correct? At that point if all goes according to plan, we will have lynched DGB who I assume you plan to shoot?

So a wasted lynch/daykill. So you shoot DGB, we lynch someone else in that case. If you don't follow through, we go from there.

That makes sense to me. I would rather see someone else hang.

vote vezo

He sheeps the whole game and just adds one liners untill this point. High likelyhood for him to be the other scum faction.

So the last line confirms you are in a scum faction?

Oh thank you then.

DTM: What I meant is didn't see the ABR discussion until after I read the role PM and see the extra dot. I wasn't trying to make ABR argument better. I hope now that makes sense.

[mothrax]

Other scum faction than DGBscum. not that difficult to infer if you read it in context...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hold up.

Did DTM just claim poisoner?

[AKnottedRope]

I have no flavor knowledge whatsoever. Does a great fairy claim work with a poisoner ability?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Uh... I'm going to venture at a "no".

[DTMaster]

No. It's a delayed vig shot. I use a day action and the kill occurs at the transition to twlight so the flip occurs then. So I need to do the whole DayKill in thread thing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The Great Fairy's not know for killing anything.

More like giving away powers and replenishing health/magic...

[Albert B. Rampage]

DTM, do you want to use your ability on DGB? We will then all unvote her and scumhunt for the others.

[Le Cupcake]

Why not just shoot ythan and profit?

P-Edit: Interesting.

P-Edit II: That alternative could work also. Though I feel more comfortable lynching DGB, then scumhunting for the kill target.

[DTMaster]

1.

After that about 7 pages ABR started saying about the not crossed out name and I could n't understand why nobody saw the point. So I said that to end the argument. Hope this makes sense.

DTM: What I meant is didn't see the ABR discussion until after I read the role PM and see the extra dot. I wasn't trying to make ABR argument better. I hope now that makes sense.

Something is not right here considering that you commented on ABR's statement. You wanted to end the argument. But now you are also just showing a scum slip on DGB. Which was it?

2. No what I want to do is day kill someone and we lynch another person. The resolution of my day kill doesn't occur till twlight so we lynch our scummiest target. Then see what my kill results. This is the most optimal play with my abilities.

3. If you want to know my flavour no my claimed action doesn't fit with the blessing flavours of the great fairy, but it makes sense since Dram/Reck made fun of the Fairy with gay jokes and added additional punny back story that fits in mafia setting.

If I was a poisoner I wouldn't be claiming a day action ability AFIAK.

4. Edit: No I want to lynch DGB since DGB is the scummiest person. I want to kill a second scummy target. The order doesn't matter technically, but in the case of: DTM IS A LYING SCUM BAG DUE TO FLAVOUR CLASHING WITH HIS CLAIM the optimal play for the town is to lynch the scummiest person and let me deal with the second person on that list.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm not calling you scum for flavor. I'm just confused as to how your power worked. You explained that though, so it's fine.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If ABR's argument made sense and you wanted to strengthen the point so people understood it, wouldn't you be reviewing the PM? Finding the dot means you're rereading the PM.

I think your question is strange. I found discrepancies -in the form of a missing crossed out name- in the claim that made me think it was a fake. Vezok saw the extra dot. These are two different analysis that lead to the same conclusion, however one does not strengthen the other as they are indepedent.

My interpretation is this: vezok found the extra dot, came to the same conclusion that the claim was fake, and then when the mod said that it was a formatting mistake and LL unvoted, he exposed the tell he picked up and revived the bandwagon.

LL, what are your thoughts on AKR/mothrax?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

AKR and Mothrax is ridiculously lame.

I was hoping for something more than "lol we're sages, and I suspected an un-sealed sage, so he suspects me too".

The only thing I can gather from the claims is that they suspect each other, and that the Reflexive Roleblocker claim is bullshit.

I want a close eye kept on Mothrax, but I want AKR shot.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think Mothrax is town. I think AKR is scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

He's so flippy floppy it makes me sick.

Also DGB: there's a lot of things you didn't add up right with your wagon analysis, and DTM's name is crossed through without any explanation. So... yeah, not liking that much.

AKR do you want DGB to claim immediately as I do?

Not particularly, she's not my biggest scumread right now.

DGB isn't scum, ABR needs to stop or die.