Stars Aligned III - The Tenth Day

[VasudeVa]

My top 5:
1. Plum
2. Kunk
3. Nacho
4. Triglav
5. One of VP/Ben/hito.

[totallynotmafia]

I'm not sure why everyone thinks I'm a terrible player...sure, I've been lazy at times, but I was the one who first thought of banning insanities, I was the one who first defended furc when everyone was ganging up on him and pushing him to the edge, I stuck my neck out for RC and El Goosuki saying they could just as likely be lazy town knowing the whole time that if they were actually cult I'd be in the shit, I defended SpyreX wrongly but I think for the right reasons, and I think I voted him for the right reason in the end, and I provided what I thought was pretty good evidence on Baby Spice and the nail in her coffin (although of course I got accused of bussing).

@TNM: Why the HELL did you stalk VP? You kind of gave an answer before, but not the kind of answer I was looking for. Let me start you off: "I decided to stalk VP, despite being explicitly forbidden from doing such, because..."

...I was in the position where I was being forced to stalk in order to prove I was town. Instead of saying "this is stupid, cult can interfere with my stalk and murder in any number of ways and easily get me mislynched all without even having to make up a case on me", I stupidly said "okay at least I'll be confirmed and wont have to defend myself anymore". Big Mistake. My next thought was "Benmage is forcing me to stalk himself, which means he obviously thinks I can't do it, so there's a pretty good chance I'll be lynched tomorrow if my stalk was warded. Now, it doesn't take a genius to work out that the people on the stalk list are going to be warded by cult, especially when they know they only have to stop my stalk to get me mislynched. Thus the obvious choice was to stalk somebody not on the list, and the person who I found scummy who was neither on the stalk list or the town ward list, was VP Baltar.

And then the only way to truly make sure cult couldn't interfere with my confirmation kill was to keep my target a secret, but no, you guys weren't having any of that.

Anyway, the whole thing has been good in a way, because it's opened up my eyes to AV, who I think is quite likely cult. He was trying to set up a fake 1-1 between me and VP, and then he set up my lynch as the only way to save the much loved VP Balter

This is just it. I really don't want to see you dead, I mean, you were my consistent rez target. But cold, hard, objectivity states that it has to be this way.

...and the oscar goes to...


Also today has just re-affirmed in my mind that kunkstar is most likely cult, we definately need to do the suicidal testing today. It's absolutely ludicrous if we don't, I'm happy to be tested first and vote first on each wagon if people are worried I'm going to hammer.

[Andrius]

VAS TAKE NACHO OFF THAT MURDER LIST.

[VasudeVa]

WHY? NACHO WAS NPAU RIGHT? D:

[AurorusVox]

He was trying to set up a fake 1-1 between me and VP, and then he set up my lynch as the only way to save the much loved VP Balter

Show me how its fake 1v1? IT IS A ONE V ONE. My logic is rock solid.

Your lynch IS the only way to save VPB. But I've been saying, and have always said, that though I don't want to see "Balter" go down, having you fulfil the stalk (that you in all likelihood can't do anyway) is a better option. Logically. Cold-heartedly.

[totallynotmafia]

If VP is town, then cult can rez and ritualise him to frame me.

[Seacore]

Unless he has a rez kit, which I don't think he has.

[AurorusVox]

TNM. You have just proven that you haven't read any of my most recent posts. So how you can say I'm scum when you've not been reading is beyond me.

Like seriously. My last million posts have been talking about VPB using a rez kit so that cult can't interfere.

Seacore: VPB said he was thinking it over, implying it was possible.

[totallynotmafia]

Do we have enough rez kits to save VP Baltar? The only way cult will be able to fuck with my confirmation that way is to forgo the ritual, and I'll be happy to be lynched tomorrow if it means no town is ritualised tonight.

[totallynotmafia]

TNM. You have just proven that you haven't read any of my most recent posts. So how you can say I'm scum when you've not been reading is beyond me.

Like seriously. My last million posts have been talking about VPB using a rez kit so that cult can't interfere.

Alright let me reread, I assumed you were still talking about the same 1-1 you were earlier.

[Seacore]

Multiple rez kits will not work.

a) The scum might have dust (unlikely but possible)
b) the scum can greater ritual
c) There's no way to tell what kind of kill the rezzing protected against,

This gives us no information about you. So if VP cannot rez somebody else, we cannot trust that your claimed kill attempt will provide us with solid information, and thus we're likely killing VP for no gain.

[Iecerint]

I really haven't given this game (or any of my games) much serious thought in a few days, but this is what my heart says when I look at the list on page 1:

Andrius
Feysal
kunkstar7
totallynotmafia
VasudeVa

Though I guess Nicky could still be scum. Or, I mean -- to the extent that Seacore/Nicky could be scum together, there's no reason they couldn't just do the same thing on an investigator. Still enough to benefit of the doubt him away from today, though.

[Seacore]

No Plum Iec?

[Iecerint]

I don't really get a scum vibe from her, no. I did get one from her in Greek Mythology (correctly), too; a significant enough one that I argued with ooba about it.

I don't get a real TOWN vibe from her either, though. And she's usually a paragon of town when she is town. So there is that.

This is equivocal but idk is basically it.

[Iecerint]

I am receptive to Plumscum arguments that go beyond "I feel it in my gut" tho.

[Iecerint]

And idk why I used that semicolon there. It really bother me.

[Andrius]

IECERINT TAKE VASUDEVA OFF YOUR SCUMLIST OR I WILL GET JACK TO SHOVE A LIGHTNING BOLT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
VAS IS TOWN.

[Iecerint]

ACTUALLY

VDV did remind me that Wraith was town the one time. So there is that.

[Percy]

Vote Count

*whisper whisper*

totallynotmafia - 4

(Benmage, AurorusVox, Andrius, kunkstar7)

kunkstar7 - 2

(totallynotmafia, Nicodemus)

Plum - 2

(Trilobite, VasudeVa)

Not Voting (9) - (Feysal, hitorogoshi, Iecerint, Nachomamma8, Plum, Seacore, Triglav, VP Baltar, xvart)

The deadline for today's lynch is Wednesday, 19 January 2011 at 2:00:00 AM (default site time).

With 17 alive, 9 votes secures a lynch.

[AurorusVox]

Do we have enough rez kits to save VP Baltar? The only way cult will be able to fuck with my confirmation that way is to forgo the ritual, and I'll be happy to be lynched tomorrow if it means no town is ritualised tonight.

VPB rezzing and exposing himself prevents scum fuckery, and means we dont have to spend like, three kits on him to keep him alive. I.e. scum will just not bother and we'll have wasted your murder and 3 other actions...

[VasudeVa]

I'm a bit more concerned of the delayed flips. With all the murders flying around, are we sure we'll still be around for the flips?

Here is what I think though.
VP Murders Andy; whoever else stalked Andy do something else.
Let TNM murder VP. Whatever rezWIFOM will fly around, we deal with tommorow.

We are getting at least one confirmed Town this way, possibly two if someone rezzed VP with claim. Don't see why we are dilly dallying with VP rezzing or whateverthefuck.

[AurorusVox]

If TNM is murdering VP, you don't then have VP murder Andy. You have Hito murder Andy.

Um. Delayed flips. FML.

We'd know in time for the next day unless Cult are content to ward every target (if they wanna stack insanities like motherfuckers let them). I don't think it'll be THAT big a deal, though it is a spanner in the shining joy that was my babycake.

[xvart]

Delayed flips? Whatever. The Cult is bleeding membership right now. Pretty soon they aren't going to the have the time or the desire to be warding people just for the sake of it.

[VasudeVa]

Why would hito murder Andy?
If Andy turns up dead and hito

didn't

do the murder, we know for sure VP did it and is an investigator, regardless of whatever RezWifom you people are being paranoid about.

[AurorusVox]

Because you said you wanted TNM to murder VPB. What's the use of clearing VPB as an investigator if he's getting killed off tonight?