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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:24 am

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Mariyta wrote:
Hiraki wrote:For assuming it's not helpful, I'm annoyed.
For your complete lack of any sort of effort this entire freaking game, I'm annoyed.
I thought Guiderian and I know that Diddin are scum. I have participated, while I do admit that I was lacking a little in Day 1 from my usual standards.

I've said things, you obviously don't like to see.

I don't like Sen's reply to Wraith's accusation. That being said, I don't like his random ISO, but that's opinionated.
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:04 am

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Steven Hacking wrote:
Vote: Jason
Good Posting.

In other news, we have been restricted to 10 posts through the ENTIRETY of day 2. If we post more than 10 times we will be modkilled. (If the deadline is extended we can post once every 48 hours in addition into the extension.) We have no limit on the size of our posts, so excuse the wall posting.

Someone obviously wants to shut us up, and our money is on Kagelord or Jason.

Vote: Jason


With that said, we'll try to give a brief rundown of how we're reading players at this point, because we don't want to waste our 10 posts early on in the day.

Town


Steven Hacking - Zang was a non entity, Steven's replacing was done pretty well. We share a lot of the same scum reads. Town.
boberz - The early day one pressure on him seemed pretty poor. Didn't see anything scummy from him and posted a lot of common sense. Leaning town.
LlamaFluff - Made sense yesterday that doesn't make him auto town, but for now he is on our town side.
hiraki - His scum hunting improved as the day went on and we still like most of post 389. Leaning town.
The Fonz - Smart posting but seemed to stay out any major bust ups that we remember. Would like to see more from him because I kinda want to class him as town. Leaning town.
Tragedy - Feels like scape goat for an easy scum wagon. Newb play is obv. Leaning town.
Wraith - Actually looks like townWraith I have seen before. Like to see him more involved, but leaning town.


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SensFan - Lurky early day one then pushed on Mist. This is something we expect from SensTown. Really want more though. Neutral leaning town
DemonHybrid - Liked some of his posting, but as we think back now he didn't make too much of an impression. Neutral, leaning town
Mariyta - Have a love hate relationship with her. Seemed easily distracted by bad play rather than scummy play. Neutralish.
Benmage - Really lurky during day one. Really needs to pick that up ASAP. Neutral
Lowell - Replaced FB who did a lot of nothing outside the "guess who" game. Neutral for now.
Nachomamma8 - Need more posting. Neutral.
Nero Cain - I don't remember any of his posting, this isn't a good sign. Neutral, slight scum read.

Scum


DarlaBlueEyes - Blegh. Needs to be much more proactive today, leaning scum.
ribwich - Really pushed against our Jason pressure asking questions that didn't really seem worth it. They didn't feel like genuine attempts at sorting out or motives and he seemed more interested in dirtying us than anything else. Leaning scum
Sleepless Assassin - Pushed a little pressure our way because "Sotty is good scum" and never explained where he knew Sotty from before. Leaning scum.
tvellalott - The bear, didn't like his reactions to the votes he got. Felt kinda slimy in how he tried to initially "laugh" them off. Leaning scum
diddin - Still feeling scum for this guy. This flipping on the alignment reveal was practically telling. Scum
KageLord - Linked to Jason. Jason was all over Mist for rolefishing but left Kagelord alone. Also his bad posting around Darla and her claim paint him in a scum light
jasonT1981 - Scum, scum, scum, scum, Scummy McScum. Please can we lynch him or Kage today? Want to know why Jason is scum, check our ISO. We talk about it a lot.

So yeah, we are probably only going to post if we want to change our vote or if a lot of stuff happens and we can comment on it in a nice juicy wall post. We will remove the hidden status from this account so you can see when we are here and reading the thread. But outside of that, I don't think we can be much help.

Please, lets lynch Jason. He really benefits from us being shut down. Just look at our interactions with him during day one. No one else will push him like we would and he knows this. It is too convenient, for him not to be involved.

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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:50 am

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I dont think ive agreed with another players scumlist more then I do sottys.
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:22 am

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sottyrulez wrote:Wraith - Actually looks like townWraith I have seen before. Like to see him more involved, but leaning town.
I disagree. Town Wraith is more lurky. And instead of defending himself or deflecting he just gives up.

vote:Wraith


Jason, Hiraki, Mist and Mari (though I can't explain my vibes on her) are also good lynches.
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:28 am

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And Mist is dead...I meant Tragedy.
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:29 am

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SensFan wrote:So the Day is less than two hours old, and we already have two people posting nothing but a vote? Not helpful, guys.
Hey. Hey Sens. I know you're one of the few other members of the 'a vote alone is worth all the words in the world' club. What gives?
Wraith wrote:Fucking Cassandra, right here folks. I would spell out my exact reasoning why I knew Mist was town, but that would be beating a dead horse.
You mean the bit where you assumed that VIs can't be scum?


Funnily enough, I have this feeling that most of the scum are in Sotty's neutral section.
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:36 am

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The Fonz wrote:
SensFan wrote:So the Day is less than two hours old, and we already have two people posting nothing but a vote? Not helpful, guys.
Hey. Hey Sens. I know you're one of the few other members of the 'a vote alone is worth all the words in the world' club. What gives?
A vote alone gives a lot of information, you're right. But it helps people a) decide if they agree with you; b) decide on your alignment right now if you give some sort of thoughts for your votes. Two people posting so early during Day Two without adding anything but a vote is a bit too little information, even for a vote-analysis person like myself.
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:21 am

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I voted mist because I was not happy with his claim.

My meds have been reduced but still on a fair bit of stuff so if I still post incoherently sometimes please ask me to resay it because I can still think as well as before so I can still be useful.

vote DBE


Nothing has changed in regard to my read of him during the night (II did a reread). So I still think he is scummy.
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:27 am

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unvote
Vote Jason


Lets do this instead anyways.
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:54 am

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vote wraith
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I actually was intrigued at his long post; thought briefly that maybe he was town after all. Then I read it. Unimpressed.
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:58 am

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Whatever, guys. If this pushes to end, just remember that certain wagons were prominent throughout Day 1, redirected by certain people to an obvtown player, and that certain people are again attempting to dupe the town. Don't fall for it.
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:59 am

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Benmage
Whats up dude?
Wraith wrote:At this point it should be INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS that this guy is scum. And I guarantee a lot of scum were among those who started and pushed the immensely retarded Mist lynch.
Following Sotty's post there can't not be.
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Vote: Wraith


I think you're being pretty opportunistic here.
With what? His vote?
Hiraki wrote:
Mariyta wrote:
Hiraki wrote:For assuming it's not helpful, I'm annoyed.
For your complete lack of any sort of effort this entire freaking game, I'm annoyed.
I thought Guiderian and I
know that Diddin are scum
. I have participated, while I do admit that I was lacking a little in Day 1 from my usual standards.
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Nero Cain wrote:Jason, Hiraki,
Mist
tragedy and Mari (though I can't explain my vibes on her) are also good lynches.
Don't make waves please. (internetsarcasmit'ssometimeshardtosee)
sottyrulez wrote: Please, lets lynch Jason. He really benefits from us being shut down. Just look at our interactions with him during day one. No one else will push him like we would and he knows this. It is too convenient, for him not to be involved.
Sotty’s gotta be one of my stronger town reads. 10 posts…crazy.

My only hesitation is that I’m a sucker for activity. I also can’t fathom there not being opportunistic scum on the Mist wagon following your vote.

Nero Cain is someone I’d like to see hang. His presence or lack thereof, is reminiscent of Supernatural Mafia, where he actively chooses to be unseen as scum.

Kage’s post 437 is odd in relation to DBE. Kind’ve half-heartedly supports her death…then tells her to claim if she gets close to a hammer…in which she super early claims. ****Did she read this as coaching?
-Calls out others for not posting
-Admits to not do much scum-hunting themselves
-Horrible Mist sheep, post sotty vote.

So yeah obviously I also won’t lose sleep over seeing DBE hang.

Anywhose hears my sheep vote. I'd be most happiest with NC, Kage is a close runner-up....It's the activity thing really that gives me pause about Jason... But I'll follow this, especially since Sotty is limited today.

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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:01 pm

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Allow me to present you with a theory-
Why would Sens reinforce a lynch on Mist?

We DO know that we lynched a VI, and he roleclaimed cop! But isn't it NOT scummy for him to claim as Homer? Yes, I mistakenly mentioned
Wiggums
, but if Mist HAD said 'em, that would've been MORE scummier than Homer! Of course, it wouldn't make sense for Homer to be a cop, but he's probably a FLAVOUR cop (Donuts...).... I indeed apologize for reinforcing this idea, but it seems to make SensFan a bit more suspicious onto that point.

And oh, yes, Nero. I was only gambling for the fun of being an idiot with my life I didn't really used well anyways. I don't think I should be gambling my life over stupidities once more, I'm sorry.

...Right, Jason.
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And oh, yes. If it weren't for the long period of time, I do realize that Sleepless was still AFK during the night, but I doubt he's a regular Townie.
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:14 pm

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Tragedy wrote:Allow me to present you with a theory-
Why would Sens reinforce a lynch on Mist?

We DO know that we lynched a VI, and he roleclaimed cop! But isn't it NOT scummy for him to claim as Homer? Yes, I mistakenly mentioned
Wiggums
, but if Mist HAD said 'em, that would've been MORE scummier than Homer! Of course, it wouldn't make sense for Homer to be a cop, but he's probably a FLAVOUR cop (Donuts...).... I indeed apologize for reinforcing this idea, but it seems to make SensFan a bit more suspicious onto that point.

And oh, yes, Nero. I was only gambling for the fun of being an idiot with my life I didn't really used well anyways. I don't think I should be gambling my life over stupidities once more, I'm sorry.

...Right, Jason.
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, Very Suspicious.

And oh, yes. If it weren't for the long period of time, I do realize that Sleepless was still AFK during the night, but I doubt he's a regular Townie.
You make my head hurt. First, you act like you're semi-defending Sens, then accuse him in the same paragraph. Then the vote on Jason is just bad. Sheepalicious. And WTH does SA have to do with any of the rest of your post? Or anything that's happened today, for that matter.
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:22 pm

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Mariyta, is it not agreeable for me to lynch a person whose been jumping on wagons on Day I?

Also, SA needs a post, he hadn't posted since the 18th, if I recall... It
is
suspicious for him to not do anything during the day while doing something in the night, you thunk?

Yeah, gambling is sort-of fun, you know...
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:25 pm

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Wraith wrote:Whatever, guys. If this pushes to end, just remember that certain wagons were prominent throughout Day 1, redirected by certain people to an obvtown player, and that certain people are again attempting to dupe the town. Don't fall for it.
You keep calling someone who got 13/25 votes "obvtown". Just saying.
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:51 pm

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Sens, my last question.

Also on Kage which I had forgotten. He tried to draw connections with myself, and others. Early on. Lynch X if Y flips scmum. I called him out on it and he quickly backed down.

Question for ribwich I forgot to ask beforehand....I forget if anyone already asked this. But in 475...why did he openly say he had role related info? Did not seem worth it to do so....

Also Sotty********
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:53 pm

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SensFan wrote:
Wraith wrote:Whatever, guys. If this pushes to end, just remember that certain wagons were prominent throughout Day 1, redirected by certain people to an obvtown player, and that certain people are again attempting to dupe the town. Don't fall for it.
You keep calling someone who got 13/25 votes "obvtown". Just saying.
It does't matter how many people were gullible, it matter that she was town, and I fucking called it. Like four times.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:49 pm

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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:51 pm

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Wraith wrote:Whatever, guys. If this pushes to end, just remember that certain wagons were prominent throughout Day 1, redirected by certain people to an obvtown player, and that certain people are again attempting to dupe the town. Don't fall for it.
Is this a defense?

I mean, I didn't see scumWraith,but this is annoying.

I feel like Wraith didn't want to freak out, just so he didn't come off more scummy.

Ehh. I'll need a re-read. Something smells like fish(BAD JOKE WARNING). And it's not tuna.
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:59 pm

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Its a vauge statement, thats what I don't like about it.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:11 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:Its a vauge statement, thats what I don't like about it.
Do I have to make it clearer? Come on, dude.

At risk of getting shouted at for OMGUS, I name names which I attempted to merely imply earlier. Okay, so D1 we had a couple pretty good wagons, most notably Hiraki and (to a lesser extent) KageLord. Suddenly Mist comes along and starts trolling, making it very very obvious she just wants to screw over the town, and a few players, most notably Hiraki and SensFan, suddenly start up a Mist wagon, which every gullible townie happily jumps onto (frankly I'm astounded some people I had pegged to be sensible, like Llama, sotty, and especially Mariyta, jumped on that wagon). And now, what's this? The one player who consistently attempted to shoot down the wagon on the obvtown cop who got mislynched over the obvscum Hiraki is being attacked by the same group of people (Hiraki and SensFan, plus Lowell but I think Lowell is less scum and more VI since I've seen him play like this as VItown before). Do I have spell out P-A-T-T-E-R-N to you?

Oh wait I did.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:28 pm

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Wraith wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:Its a vauge statement, thats what I don't like about it.
Do I have to make it clearer? Come on, dude.

At risk of getting shouted at for OMGUS, I name names which I attempted to merely imply earlier. Okay, so D1 we had a couple pretty good wagons, most notably Hiraki and (to a lesser extent) KageLord. Suddenly Mist comes along and starts trolling, making it very very obvious she just wants to screw over the town, and a few players, most notably Hiraki and SensFan, suddenly start up a Mist wagon, which every gullible townie happily jumps onto (frankly I'm astounded some people I had pegged to be sensible, like Llama, sotty, and especially Mariyta, jumped on that wagon). And now, what's this? The one player who consistently attempted to shoot down the wagon on the obvtown cop who got mislynched over the obvscum Hiraki is being attacked by the same group of people (Hiraki and SensFan, plus Lowell but I think Lowell is less scum and more VI since I've seen him play like this as VItown before). Do I have spell out P-A-T-T-E-R-N to you?

Oh wait I did.
Two problems with your logic.
First of all, Sens is a known Policy Lyncher, thus his push to lynch for idiocy rather than scumminess is null (not to mention that the claim was ridiculously overpowered and obvious bullshit).
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:29 pm

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Lowell is voting you not Hiraki.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:32 pm

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SensFan wrote:
Wraith wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:Its a vauge statement, thats what I don't like about it.
Do I have to make it clearer? Come on, dude.

At risk of getting shouted at for OMGUS, I name names which I attempted to merely imply earlier. Okay, so D1 we had a couple pretty good wagons, most notably Hiraki and (to a lesser extent) KageLord. Suddenly Mist comes along and starts trolling, making it very very obvious she just wants to screw over the town, and a few players, most notably Hiraki and SensFan, suddenly start up a Mist wagon, which every gullible townie happily jumps onto (frankly I'm astounded some people I had pegged to be sensible, like Llama, sotty, and especially Mariyta, jumped on that wagon). And now, what's this? The one player who consistently attempted to shoot down the wagon on the obvtown cop who got mislynched over the obvscum Hiraki is being attacked by the same group of people (Hiraki and SensFan, plus Lowell but I think Lowell is less scum and more VI since I've seen him play like this as VItown before). Do I have spell out P-A-T-T-E-R-N to you?

Oh wait I did.
Two problems with your logic.
First of all,
Sens is a known Policy Lyncher
, thus his push to lynch for idiocy rather than scumminess is null (not to mention that the claim was ridiculously overpowered and obvious bullshit).
Was not aware of this. Do you have meta?
Lowell is voting you not Hiraki.
Yeah, but if this wagon gains steam, he will. Just watch.
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