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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:44 pm

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Lowell wrote:homer is a cop, but the doc is actually doctor hibbert? Seems to literal to me.

I still dont' see the Nero case at all. As for hiraki, is this a holdover case from yesterday, or is there something new?
Apparently I haven't been giving enough content since D2 started, so I'm scum.

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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:48 pm

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Did you miss yesterday?
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:21 pm

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Hiraki wrote:
Lowell wrote:homer is a cop, but the doc is actually doctor hibbert? Seems to literal to me.

I still dont' see the Nero case at all. As for hiraki, is this a holdover case from yesterday, or is there something new?
Apparently I haven't been giving enough content since D2 started, so I'm scum.

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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:45 pm

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unvote dbe but he is still scum


vote jason
not buying hibbert as a doc. at all.
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:51 pm

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I don't understand all the "Hibbert can't be doc" arguments.
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can't Hibbert be the doc? Some are saying "Well, Homer was a cop, so it doesn't make sense." But what would you have given Homer? Donut SK? Roleblocker in a mumu? Homer is a very versatile character who could have gotten nearly any role. Hibbert is much less so. If Jason had claimed "Hibbert- Hider" or some crap like that, it would have been much more suspicious. If you're voting him, vote him for real reasons, not "the flavor is too literal." I think Jason is just frustrated town at this point, though.
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:13 pm

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Lowell wrote:homer is a cop, but the doc is actually doctor hibbert? Seems to literal to me.

I still dont' see the Nero case at all. As for hiraki, is this a holdover case from yesterday, or is there something new?
Fuck man this post is awful.

My role heavily corresponds with my character. This speculation stuff is awful. This looks like scum looking for a doc lynch.

Mist was obvtown because of Tragedy asking if she was Wiggum. Why would she NOT take that fakeclaim suggestion after Tragedy threw it out there?
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:20 pm

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The Flavour of the night kill write-up also matched to that character. (Barney being a drunk)
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:21 pm

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We arent lynching jason. I would expect almost everyones roles adds up with characters. Homer I was thinking would be a JOAT, but thats besides the point.

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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:33 pm

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unvote
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:50 pm

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I really don't like Hiraki is playing the no case on me thing acting as if he has been as good as gold and nothing to answer for and then playing the 'who, me?' card when pressed.

Nothing towards scum hunting today and shows no actual interest in doing so still.
Add to that yesterday.

I think its a pretty solid bet for scum right there!
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:51 am

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diddin wrote: Mist was obvtown because of Tragedy asking if she was Wiggum. Why would she NOT take that fakeclaim suggestion after Tragedy threw it out there?
Because it wasn't one of her fakeclaims, and she was worried about being countered?

But seriously, the nieghbor bit was mega-confirmable. The cop bit wasn't that outlandish.
ribwich wrote:Nobody would give a cop the ability to confirm an innocent each night in addition to their investigative power. Learn to fakeclaim better next time.
This is megascummy. That's not for a second what mist was saying. She was saying instead, not in addition. IE, she confirms a town player a night, but never gets scum.

Also Sens said 'Not going to unvote... for a Homer, Cop claim' which to my mind is the exact claim that would probably most make me want to unvote.

The scummiest, though, I think are Mariyta for going from 'Hiraki is the lynch today' to 'vote mist' in consecutive posts, and obv ribwich for hammering a claimed cop in plain sight rather than, oh I don't know, asking her to explain more clearly what she meant.

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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:57 am

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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:46 am

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The Fonz wrote:But seriously, the nieghbor bit was mega-confirmable. The cop bit wasn't that outlandish.
The neighbour bit is the reason she was obviously lying about her claim.
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:56 am

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Wait wait wait, I must have missed something. Mist was a Neighbor Cop? With (max) four other members of the Simpsons Family?

WHAT THE FUCK

WHY didn't anyone confirm the neighbor part?!
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:02 am

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I did miss something (it sucks when a wagon gains about 6 people and a hammer while you're in class all night). Even without the trolling/bad play Mist had, I truly cannot fathom why this happened. I don't know how detailed the scum fakeclaims are, or if they got them at all, but in my experience only really hardcore scum players would make up a claim that convoluted. The people who are obviously fakeclaiming are the people who say "Oh I'm the cop, just a regular cop" or "I'm the regular doctor" or, of course "I'm just a VT" not someone who says "I'm a cop (insert limited flavor for my investigation) and I can also choose a random member of the Simpsons family (such as Marge, Bart, or Lisa) to talk to in QT. Also that last part is confirmable so MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T LYNCH ME AND INSTEAD TRY TO CONFIRM ME"

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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:09 am

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I will catch up and post my thoughts about Day 2 so far, but I'm returning scumpoints to Wraith, and might even give a few to Fonz.

What about "Oh hai. I'm mist, and I'm an ultra newbie who just signed up to mafia scum. My claim is Homer Simpson, the most unoriginal claim ever. He's a cop and can bring people to his plant and do stuff that doesn't make sense. Also, I have a power to talk to other family members, making my claim seem like a childhood dream" doesn't look scummy?

By the way, I'm a Simpson, and I can confirm that the Neighbor part was complete bullshit, so she was partially lying about her claim. I will not say which Simpson and with what role.

Now can we stop speculating the lynch and focus on connections?

I will reply with thoughts, but I have a class today, so it will be later tonight.
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:13 am

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*I can confirm that the Neighbor part was at least partially bullshit. Or, at the very least, I wasn't chosen.
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:14 am

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I'm not liking a Hiraki lynch today. I agree that his play has been... not what is considered standard for town (and neither has mine), but not lynch-worthy at this point.

I'm more interested in hearing why Sens and DH supported the hammer without trying to confirm the neighborhood. Also, I want to know what Nacho's thinking.

And tvella hasn't posted for 12 days. >.>

Prev edit: Just because you are a Simpson doesn't mean that you have the same role. The way Mist said it (which was somewhat confusing) was that she could choose a family member to talk to. That means that it is probably initiated by Mist and the other family members don't know about the connection before they are chosen. What else do you think the "Family Man" part of the role flip flavor was about?
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:17 am

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Well, I didn't see the Family Man part of the flip, just the Springfieldian Cop part. I see your point, but you have to realize how naturally scummy it looked. Why does every mislynch need to bring to suspect the people near the hammer and not the people 2/3 through the wagon?
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:24 am

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CallMeLiam wrote:
Vote Count 19

Mist7676 - 13 - hiraki, SensFan, jasonT1981, The Fonz, sottyrulez,
DarlaBlueEyes, LlamaFluff, KageLord, DemonHybrid, Nero Cain, Mariyta, boberz
, ribwich
ribwich is fine. Check with the people who had nothing to say with their mist vote. And yes, I sanction the questioning of me, too, since I did the same thing, but I can guarantee that you have an equal mixture of scum and town around the bolded area.

Will you have people, like me, say that Mist's lynch was inevitable? Yes.

Will you have people with legitimate reasoning otherwise? Yes.

But seriously, it's the perfect opportune time to get in a mislynch. This does NOT include the claim and hammer; I don't think scum would be as dumb as to be vocal towards her lynch after the claim. Playing as scum before, even as a moderately seasoned player, I find myself shutting up and letting the mislynch just happen, and I expect the same out of others. It's normal human psychology.
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:29 am

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DemonHybrid wrote:Well, I didn't see the Family Man part of the flip, just the Springfieldian Cop part. I see your point, but you have to realize how naturally scummy it looked. Why does every mislynch need to bring to suspect the people near the hammer and not the people 2/3 through the wagon?
Because the people on it early are usually the ones making the case, and the ones jumping at the tail end are either scum trying to slip in unnoticed or the people who parrot the former type of players.
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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:30 am

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DemonHybrid wrote:
But seriously, it's the perfect opportune time to get in a mislynch. This does NOT include the claim and hammer; I don't think scum would be as dumb as to be vocal towards her lynch after the claim.
Playing as scum before, even as a moderately seasoned player, I find myself shutting up and letting the mislynch just happen
, and I expect the same out of others. It's normal human psychology.
Interesting you say you shut up and let the mislynch happen... almost as if you knew it would be a
mislynch
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:32 am

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jasonT1981 wrote:
DemonHybrid wrote:
But seriously, it's the perfect opportune time to get in a mislynch. This does NOT include the claim and hammer; I don't think scum would be as dumb as to be vocal towards her lynch after the claim.
Playing as scum before, even as a moderately seasoned player, I find myself shutting up and letting the mislynch just happen
, and I expect the same out of others. It's normal human psychology.
Interesting you say you shut up and let the mislynch happen... almost as if you knew it would be a
mislynch
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Yeah, jason. Who would have known that I would know it was a mislynch after the lynched person flips town?

Very astute observation.
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:33 am

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I know your talking about how as scum that is what you would do and what scum might do in this situation... just something doesn't sit right with that post in my head at least. It feels forced.

edit: No, I mean you said it almost as if you knew it WOULD be a mislynch. as in before the flip happened.
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:34 am

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DemonHybrid wrote:Well, I didn't see the Family Man part of the flip, just the Springfieldian Cop part. I see your point, but you have to realize how naturally scummy it looked. Why does every mislynch need to bring to suspect the people near the hammer and not the people 2/3 through the wagon?
In this case, there is a very good reason: SHE CLAIMED A CONFIRMABLE ROLE!!!

People near my region of the wagon had not seen a claim (and I know that I personally only came back to the game after the lynch). The reason that the finger is being pointed more at you and Sens than someone in the middle is not because your vote was on someone that flipped town (there is nothing wrong with that in Mist's case), but that you called for a hammer on someone that had claimed cop (dangerous to lynch on D1) and neighbor (which could have been confirmed by the next day).
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DemonHybrid wrote:
But seriously, it's the perfect opportune time to get in a mislynch. This does NOT include the claim and hammer; I don't think scum would be as dumb as to be vocal towards her lynch after the claim.
Playing as scum before, even as a moderately seasoned player, I find myself shutting up and letting the mislynch just happen
, and I expect the same out of others. It's normal human psychology.
Interesting you say you shut up and let the mislynch happen... almost as if you knew it would be a
mislynch
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Are you being for real, jason? DH said
"as scum"
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