[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

[Ythan]

Don't you hate how Mafia games get moved to another forum when there is only one scum left. Oh wait.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I know but starting with one scum is very unbalanced.

[Ythan]

Well yeah it's unbalanced. The game can end d1.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Exactly

[Ythan]

Exactly nothing, you said it's not Mafia.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Oh you won that argument I was saying exactly to it being unbalanced.

[Ythan]

I think it would suck for the game to end d1.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Yes it would

[Kublai Khan]

Everyone is equally informed. They each only know who they are

Those with alternate win condition(s) know that they are the only one(s) with that win condition, and therefore they are an informed minority.

Those with the standard win condition know that an alternate WC exists, but they don't know who has it, and therefore they are an uninformed majority.

That is Mafia and this has been Mafia 101.

[Mr. Flay]

Actually, shotty's right for once. mith has said that one-scum games don't work as mafia.

[Tragedy]

Tricky Ends

Mafia

2 Vanilla Townies
1 (Sane/Insane) Macho Cop
1 Paranoid Gun Owner/Lover

(50% chance to fail)

1 One-Shot Sensor
1 Insane Loving Doctor
1 Two-Shot Roleblocker

(Only works every Odd Nights)

1 Kidnapper

(Target only temporarily loses the right to post, but still have the right to vote in-thread.)

2 Mafia Goons

(1 Attack Per Night. One person will go and kill the person!)

Yay, Edited Version~! Credits towards anybody who commented on this mafia~! More opinions are still appreciated, though~

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Doctors & Poison Outbreak

Mafia

5 Quack Doctors
2 Poison Doctors
1 Insane Doctor
1 Paranoid Doctor

3 Poisoners

(Allied to each other, may speak with each other within the night! 1 Poison Per Night!)

Special Notes: Doctors do not automatically know their sanities when given a role PM! Sanities are

not

revealed upon death!

[Ythan]

Actually, shotty's right for once. mith has said that one-scum games don't work as mafia.

No offense to mith but whether or not it

works

, in his view, I disagree that it changes the game any more than the smaller scale.

[gandalf5166]

Well, it might still be mafia, but it's definitely a hell of a lot harder for town.

[Ythan]

Mafia is still up against having to fake it.

[gandalf5166]

Mafia is still up against having to fake it.

Yes, but the only thing you're searching for is survival tells. And I know lots of players that don't like dying anyways.

[Crazy]

I'd like to bring up Empking's Jester setup again. I'll

Nominate

it with my suggestions.

Empking's Jester

2 Mafia

1 Jester (Wins if the town no lynches while he's still alive. Dies at the end of Day 2 if he's not already dead.)

1 One-Shot Vig
1 Doc
5 Townies

All factions are mutually exclusive.

Does anyone have any issues with this setup? So far, neither the regular Jester Mafia nor Paris Mafia have fixed the problems with Jesters, but I believe this setup does.

I also changed the Jester dying during Night 2 into making him die at the end of Day 2 if he's not lynched. I just like the idea that he dies as instantly as he loses the game; it feels better, rather than making him into a possible NK target on Night 2.

[Ythan]

Mafia is still up against having to fake it.

Yes, but the only thing you're searching for is survival tells. And I know lots of players that don't like dying anyways.

A survivor can still genuinely hunt scum. Scum can't if there aren't multiple factions.

[CheeseDeluxe]

Friends, Best Friends, Enemies, More Enemies, Even More Enemies, and This Rupert Guy

Town

10 Vanilla Townies
3 Masons
1 Cockblocker (Stops someone's chickens; virtually vanilla)
1 Chocolate Townie (Token black, everyone loses if s/he dies first; vanilla otherwise. Role is completely optional.)

Mafia

1 Don (Always makes the kill unless others volunteer; vanilla otherwise)
1 Vanilla Mafioso

Yakuza

1 Oyabun (Always makes the kill unless others volunteer; vanilla otherwise)
1 Vanilla Shatei

Werewolves

1 Alpha Wolf (Always makes the kill unless others volunteer; vanilla otherwise)
1 Vanilla Werewolf

This Rupert Guy

1 Rupert Guy

Elaboration on "This Rupert Guy"

This Rupert Guy is a mail carrier. While he is alive, each and every single person can send one letter to another person during the night. If he dies (by any means), however, the mail ability is disabled for everyone. He's more of a lurker, and should not post as much as other players. I'd implement post restrictions for him. Furthermore, he has the ability to watch someone at night, regardless if anyone sends any mail. He is a survivor. (For an additional challenge, make it so that if This Rupert Guy is killed, nobody can nightchat.)

This Rupert Guy is from some game called "Earl Grey and This Rupert Guy". Go play it.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I would play

[RedCoyote]

Are there any open setups with cults?

[Leo]

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[RedCoyote]

Is that an "official" setup though? That's what I meant to ask.

[The Fonz]

Nominate 8:4 Vanilla Nightless

[Lateralus22]

Role Blocker
Goon

Cop
VT
VT
VT
VT
VT

2:6

No reveal upon deaths, this game is nightless UNLESS a no-lynch occurs.

Special Mechanic: Town can choose to reveal a dead player's alignment at the cost of a no lynch.

[Powerrox93]

Friends, Best Friends, Enemies, More Enemies, Even More Enemies, and This Rupert Guy

Town

10 Vanilla Townies
3 Masons
1 Cockblocker (Stops someone's chickens; virtually vanilla)
1 Chocolate Townie (Token black, everyone loses if s/he dies first; vanilla otherwise. Role is completely optional.)

Mafia

1 Don (Always makes the kill unless others volunteer; vanilla otherwise)
1 Vanilla Mafioso

Yakuza

1 Oyabun (Always makes the kill unless others volunteer; vanilla otherwise)
1 Vanilla Shatei

Werewolves

1 Alpha Wolf (Always makes the kill unless others volunteer; vanilla otherwise)
1 Vanilla Werewolf

This Rupert Guy

1 Rupert Guy

Elaboration on "This Rupert Guy"

This Rupert Guy is a mail carrier. While he is alive, each and every single person can send one letter to another person during the night. If he dies (by any means), however, the mail ability is disabled for everyone. He's more of a lurker, and should not post as much as other players. I'd implement post restrictions for him. Furthermore, he has the ability to watch someone at night, regardless if anyone sends any mail. He is a survivor. (For an additional challenge, make it so that if This Rupert Guy is killed, nobody can nightchat.)

This Rupert Guy is from some game called "Earl Grey and This Rupert Guy". Go play it.

I like most of this, but when This Rupert Guy dies, is it really worth for everyone to not being able to nightchat. Mailing could be a really swingy mechanic.

Friends and Best Friends and Enemies and More Enemies and Even More Enemies and This Rupert Guy. What an awesome name