American Gods Mafia - Game over

[OhGodMyLife]

Also, Gaggle of Geese, sure, come on backstage with me

[Ghostlin]

I'd also be up for an SGR lynch, however. That post on D2 just screams "Hello, I'm here and I'm going to defend Wraith because he's my scum buddy".

I lol'd
I immediatly

FOS

you (Dohohohoh, OMGUS) because you actually think for a second that Scum would not only buddy on their scumpartner, but do it as openly, cleanly and quickly as now.
If I do end up getting lynched... may god have mercy on Town's soul

As far as the SGR lynch topic goes, of course this will be biased, but when I see someone defend a player who was not in need of a defense at the time (Yes, I did not need anyone to stick up for me because the votes on me make no sense and I consider them non-threatening at this time), I tend to think it is scum trying to buddy-up with a townie that they see as a likely lynch in an attempt to gain town-points. I think that scum-babying is incredibly obvious and would be avoided at all costs by scum.

Its not so much as me defending you as me trying to get the logic behind your lynch so I can kill you

First point: I'm sure we, as town, will somehow incredibly survive if you somehow made it to the gallows. The FOS uses the 'scum wouldn't be so stupid to do that argument,' which is invalid, and illogical, and could lead to WIFOM. AtE noted.

Second point: This just sounds scummy. Why not ask the other players for a case? 'Oh, hi, I'm just going to defend you until I can figure out a way to kill you' in the hands of scum is like, 'Hi, I don't want to look like I'm sheeping but I want to find a legit way to throw you under the bus.'

I disliked your first post for being completely devoid of anything useful, and your second post reads like a scummy player.

Unvote. Vote: SGR

You're right on the 0/0, I'm gonna fix that. Thanks NERD!

What are you, nine? This is puerile and doesn't belong in a defense. Particularly when it's a good point.

IGMEOY: WrathChild

Haven't done this yet.

Elect: Ghostlin

: Obv.

Elect: GaggleofGeese

: I've played with Chess before, and have been less than impressed, so I'm surprised at this election, HOWEVER, GG has shown remarkably good judgement in the beginning of this game.

Elect: Ythill

: Disliking of his Wrath vote or not, the way he's handled himself seems pretty townie in this very early stage. He's kept up the pressure and is actively scumhunting.

[Ghostlin]

EBWOP: It's acutally his third or fourth post, my bad.

[A Gaggle of Geese]

Ghostlin, what game was it? I only ask because I can't remember being in a game with you before.

[Ghostlin]

Ghostlin, what game was it? I only ask because I can't remember being in a game with you before.

It's ongoing. I replaced into Storm of Swords 2, replacing Percy, who lurked most of the game.

[Ythill]

Hi there, SGR. The answer is quite simple. In Wrath's second post he changed his behavior in order to fit in. In his third post he eluded to the fact that he wouldn't have failed to random vote at all but he'd forgotten it was considered scummy here, thereby confirming that his top priority is avoiding suspicion. Look at my play for what it looks like when town don't RV.

On Sacrifice: the people who are agreeing with Llama after my counterpoint... did you miss it or do you disagree for some reason? I think we should at least work out the optimal timing.

If you'd like to tango, Ythill, we'll be right here.

Um... what?

Regarding the content explosion, I think I'm going to have to start my notes early. Nothing really jumps out at me except Ghost finding link evidence but failing to suspect Llama and the fact that ani is already leaning populist in #52.

Also, protip: OMGUS isn't a scumtell.

[WrathChild]

Guys, SGRaaize is scum, lets get him

These kind of comments really bug me, especially when I'm in a foreign meta. The joke-stage is clearly over, is OGML trying to drag us back into the joke phase?

I have my suspicions of SGR, but this is pretty bad. Is this a normal thing for OGML?

[Seacore]

Wrath, you'll have to get over that. It's a common tactic/style here at MafiaScum. People will post declarations with little evidence, and it's either because they're reaction hunting, they're being coy to trap their target, or because they're a jerk.
I generally agree, comments like that don't help me, so I ignore them. I register them as X said Y was scum at some point and then I move on. I suggest you do the same.

[WrathChild]

Do you see town players do that often here? I have seen it done my scum much more than town in my experience elsewhere.

[WrathChild]

EBWOP: "done by scum"

[Ythill]

You seem very interested in learning the meta for what is considered scummy here. Seems like a defensive tactic. Scumpoint three.

I doubt OGML was joking.

[OhGodMyLife]

Wrath could easily be SGR's scumbuddy after that little show

[Seacore]

Ythill, I used to get burned like WrathChild is when I first joined MS. MS has it's own memes and differing from them earns you scum points. I was primary lynch target Day 1 in my first several games, and I've yet to be scum on this site. So I'm not too worried about.

But WC has earned scum points for a huge gap of logic in his last post. If I thought those actions were a scum tell, do you think I would just accept it and move on? No, it's a null tell, as I've said it's just a playstyle. If all we had to do to find scum was look for people not even attempting to provide evidence, it would be pretty easy.

Still, Locke is winning in scum points.

[WrathChild]

I'm sorry my bad, OGML reasoning was perfectly legit. I was totally wrong to question it.

[SGRaaize]

First point: I'm sure we, as town, will somehow incredibly survive if you somehow made it to the gallows.

I'm pretty sure the Town isn't gonna survive if it keeps having these lapses in logic

The FOS uses the 'scum wouldn't be so stupid to do that argument,' which is invalid, and illogical, and could lead to WIFOM.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZTIDnWl ... ideo_title

It isn't invalid, nor is it illogical, it may not lead to WIFOM, as it

IS

WIFOM, the logic is obvious, a Mafioso would not put himself on such a prominent role, nor would he go as far as defending his scumpartner when there was one vote placed at him

AtE noted.

AtE means "Appeal to Emotion" according to the Wiki, where the heck did I appeal for your emotion?

Second point: This just sounds scummy.

lol

Why not ask the other players for a case?

We're at 4 pages in the game and you're already lost:

What's your reasoning on WraithChild? I am sorry, but your vote-lynch makes no sense

If you even bothered to ISO me instead of trying to look for an easy target to kill, this wouldn't have happened

'Oh, hi, I'm just going to defend you until I can figure out a way to kill you' in the hands of scum is like, 'Hi, I don't want to look like I'm sheeping but I want to find a legit way to throw you under the bus.'

What it means is simple, apparently there has been a huge scumtell WrathChild gave which I missed, because there were about 3 votes on him for no reason whatsoever aside from a ridiculous BW, I am trying to find logic in the BW so I can follow it, I have not been given logic.

Hi there, SGR. The answer is quite simple.

Elucidate me

In Wrath's second post he changed his behavior in order to fit in.

Completely far-fetched, to say the least

In his third post he eluded to the fact that he wouldn't have failed to random vote at all but he'd forgotten it was considered scummy here, thereby confirming that his top priority is avoiding suspicion.

That's a good point, I think its still a little bit far-fetched, but I see where you're getting at

[OhGodMyLife]

HEY SGR STOP IGNORING ME

[SGRaaize]

Vote Lynch: Ghostlin

WrathChild admitting to trying to sound less suspicious sounds good, but Ghostlin voting me with bad arguments and lack of attention leads me to believe he's just trying to look good while joining a BW he thinks will pick up steam

[SGRaaize]

HEY SGR STOP IGNORING ME

I can't argue "Gut Reads", I'm sorry

[A Gaggle of Geese]

SGR, We can't follow your quotewall, because most of the quotes don't have the names put in, and we don't remember every single thing everyone said without the extra bit of help.

Would you mind reposting it with labelled quotes or links to posts?

[SGRaaize]

You must think I'm your servant or whatever...

...

Fine... Will do

[SGRaaize]

First point: I'm sure we, as town, will somehow incredibly survive if you somehow made it to the gallows.

I'm pretty sure the Town isn't gonna survive if it keeps having these lapses in logic

The FOS uses the 'scum wouldn't be so stupid to do that argument,' which is invalid, and illogical, and could lead to WIFOM.

It isn't invalid, nor is it illogical, it may not lead to WIFOM, as it

IS

WIFOM, the logic is obvious, a Mafioso would not put himself on such a prominent role, nor would he go as far as defending his scumpartner when there was one vote placed at him

AtE noted.

AtE means "Appeal to Emotion" according to the Wiki, where the heck did I appeal for your emotion?

Second point: This just sounds scummy.

lol

Why not ask the other players for a case?

We're at 4 pages in the game and you're already lost:

What's your reasoning on WraithChild? I am sorry, but your vote-lynch makes no sense

Link: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p2848638
If you even bothered to ISO me instead of trying to look for an easy target to kill, this wouldn't have happened

'Oh, hi, I'm just going to defend you until I can figure out a way to kill you' in the hands of scum is like, 'Hi, I don't want to look like I'm sheeping but I want to find a legit way to throw you under the bus.'

What it means is simple, apparently there has been a huge scumtell WrathChild gave which I missed, because there were about 3 votes on him for no reason whatsoever aside from a ridiculous BW, I am trying to find logic in the BW so I can follow it, I have not been given logic.

Hi there, SGR. The answer is quite simple.

Elucidate me

In Wrath's second post he changed his behavior in order to fit in.

Completely far-fetched, to say the least

In his third post he eluded to the fact that he wouldn't have failed to random vote at all but he'd forgotten it was considered scummy here, thereby confirming that his top priority is avoiding suspicion.

That's a good point, I think its still a little bit far-fetched, but I see where you're getting at

[A Gaggle of Geese]

Much appreciated.

[Seacore]

Also, in future, try not to put your own comments inside the quote boxes, it gets very confusing, your fixed post was perfect.

[Ythill]

Stop encouraging re-posts of WsoT pretty please. This game is already getting too thick.

@SGR:

I hope you're not one of those bandwagoning-is-bad players because the opposite is clearly true.

@Seacore:

If you were more worried about manipulating people into seeing you as town then you were about finding the scum, then those D1 lynches were well deserved.

@Everyone:

You should be ashamed that we don't even have one decent wagon yet. If not Wrath then

someone

.

Vote movement + vote grouping = town win through superior data.

[OhGodMyLife]

Hi Ythill, you can bandwagon SGR with me now