League of Legends (Old)

[TheButtonmen]

Yi is fine, just have every one toss a spell at him at the start and he just dies. Now Nocturne on the other hand is scary scary, his ult makes any running team fight a complete one sided massacre as the other team loses all co-ordination and let's him initate from what seems like the other side of the map, while spell shield gives him some much needed surviability.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I ran an Alistar jungle today. It was surprisingly effective, got our mid (Jarvan) to spear blue so I could take it down with Pulverise and Smite at leve 1, used blue to spam my heal while clearing everything but red, went back, got Sheen, then ganked the opposing team's solo lane and just went wandering from there on out. Finished up 3/5/17 with 3 towers downed. Probably not viable at any decent sort of ELO with a counterjungle being run properly, but it can work.
And yeah, the only real counter to Nocturne's ult seems to be for everyone to rush Banshee's, which is ridiculous.

[bv310]

As soon as you see your screen go all dark, don't panic. Stand your ground and fuck his ass up as soon as he jumps on you. Nocturne is squishy as all fuck.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I main Alistar, Singed, and Taric. I'm not the one getting my shit fucked up, it's the silly squishy carry who overextends and then OMG I CAN'T DO ANYTHING, or even better, "OMG Y U NO SAVE ME FROM HALF THE MAP AWAY TANK"

[bv310]

I love getting that as the jungler. I can be 2 minutes in at Blue Golem, and I'll see a ping, then a teammate'll die and rage at me for "not being there to help"

[LimMePls]

I read a guide about jungling with Amumu, and I gave it a go, and it didn't work so well. Are tier 3 runes necessary to pull it off, or did I just screw it up bad?

[Knight of Cydonia]

You screwed it up bad. It's still more than possible with Tier 1 runes. If you have any worries about it at all, ask mid or top to leash it with either a few autos or an ability (Jarvan's spear works well for this since it comes with an armor debuff)

[bv310]

Switched back to Blitzcrank for the first time in a while. Raped a Bot game, then did pretty well in 3 of 4 actual games. Last game, I had a Fiddlesticks who didn't understand that his ult wasn't a "I stand in the middle of a teamfight channeling, then pop to this same spot when cast" ability, and a Rammus who didn't build a single tank item. Got to listen to both of them bitch at me for not building pure-tank for the whole second half of the game, and the Fiddle just sat in the Fountain yelling and asking the other team to report me.

[hitogoroshi]

Really, KoC? I was under the impression Amumu's jungle turned to shit after the jungle buffs, and even with Tier 3 runes it's still a marginal thing. Shows what I know...

[LimMePls]

Maybe I read an old guide and he can't jungle well anymore? That might help explain it. I know I'm new to LoL, but I played a shit ton of DOTA, so this aint my first rodeo.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Still see Amumu jungles regularly here (1600 ELO). He usually needs someone to leash a couple of hits on blue, but once he's got that he's fine.

[Elmo]

I used the route from this guide with 1/21/8 and it worked although I suspect it's very far from optimal. I only have one "generic" rune page at the moment, no fancy stuff.

[Knight of Cydonia]

That guide is flatout retarded. Masteries are okay, but you should be taking flat armor yellows, mp/5 per level blues, MPen Reds, and flat health quints.
Start with Cloth Armor, not Elixir of Fort. Start at blue, make sure someone leashes it for a few seconds. Take Despair, time your health pots to keep your health as near full as possible, and smite it to finish and avoid the steal. Use blue, your W and E to clear everything but red, then back, buy situationally, and then gank. Never take red yourself, aim to leash it for your solo mid/main AD-based DPS if your mid isn't that. Once you hit 6, you should be roaming as much as possible for ganks/pushing.

[LimMePls]

So I play pubs, and I'm low level. Do I have to have someone leash in order to succeed? Cause I can't exactly trust a lot of these people to know what they're doing.

[Knight of Cydonia]

At low level, you are going to seriously struggle to jungle with anyone. No full mastery set, no full rune page. I wouldn't advise it.

[bv310]

As long as you've hit lvl 8 where you can get the full EXP mastery, you probably can jungle with the top guys (Nunu, Udyr, Warwick). Anyone beyond that is much less likely.

[TheButtonmen]

Speaking of warwick; Malady, Blood Razor, Sword of Divine, Wits End + Magic Pen Warwick is a blast and surprisingly viable.

[Mafuyu]

At low level, you are going to seriously struggle to jungle with anyone. No full mastery set, no full rune page. I wouldn't advise it.

Nunu. But nunu's special like that.
Also, leashing had made jungling significantly easier for lower levels, as it allows for 2-3 free hits.

[bv310]

TBM, that + Black Cleaver is absolutely awesome. Shred down a tank in no time

[popsofctown]

Armor quintessences are even better for jungling, albeit less useful in other pages.

[StrungOver]

te emo all day!

[Bunnylover]

So, how about that Lee Sin character.
I think he needs a buff.

[bv310]

I really stopped caring a while back. It's not really an April Fool's joke if it's obvious. Now it just seems like Riot put a lot of effort in to telling their community to go fuck itself.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm pretty sure that the Riot logo flying at the screen at punching it has never been more apt. If they actually have a champ coming out this week, then it's forgivable, but if all their resources have been ploughed into this joke... I gon' be mad.

[TheButtonmen]

I on the other hand was super amused.