Into Africa - Over

[DeityKabuto]

A day kill?

[silavor]

Huh. Wasn't expecting a day kill.

Should've gone for Lowell though.

[Fate]

That was fuckin stupid.

COURSE GREYICE SAYS ITS A GOOD SHOT SO YOU WONT SHOOT HIM TOMORROW

Fuck this shit

[GreyICE]

Or I said it's a good shot because killing a lurker with less posts than I have is solid play for a vig? Hate hero vigs who decide that they will kill all the scum no one can touch, and kill all the obvtownies.

Vote: Fate

[evilpacman18]

Antelopes AND Zebras are townies... hm.

Just for the sake of meta defense, go read every game I've lurked. I guarantee you there's a catch up post by me somewhere in each one of them. And every time it's utter shit. I'm just cursed to always make shit catch up posts. Shitty posting isn't a scum tell -_- silavor's more recent defense was quite impressive actually and grey is right, not about the wagoners, but about the speed this wagon accumulated on. Do I think silavor is scum? Yes, still, but I am going to

unvote

because of those two things. Now inb4 oh pacman is scum because he caved with minimal pressure. earworm is looking for easy reasons to vote me. Won't vote him though because from what I've seen playing with him in two games where I think he's scum, he might just be one of those people that you think is scum every game.

[evilpacman18]

Huh. Wasn't expecting a day kill.

Should've gone for Lowell though.

See. This is why I still kinda want you lynched. Sheep the guy defending you more, please.

[Flavour Analysis]

That was dumb.

Anyways, now Vezo and Pacman are semi-cleared. Wouldn't rely on it heavily though. Gotta look at their actions too.

Pacman, why did you believe Seacore was scum when you brought up the Human theory?

I don't follow. Why do you think Earworm is looking for easy reasons to vote you? Why are you afraid that his meta may prove true this time around?

[Amrun]

Pacman, silavor's defense has been IMPRESSIVE to you?! What?

FA, how the hell are they cleared?

[Flavour Analysis]

Vezo actually claimed to be that character. I thought it was a joke, in reference to me saying that Llama was sheeping.

Pacman claimed the same char claim as me, and it seems they might come in packs since Vezo claimed Antelope before Pere did.

Not entirely sure of Pacman's claim, thus why I said semi-cleared. What do you think?

[Flavour Analysis]

Sup Cirno. Thoughts please?

[Flavour Analysis]

@

DeityKabuto

: Why aren't you voting anyone right now?

I thought my vote was on you.

You unvoted quite a while ago.

Unvote

Well tbh, I can actually see Flavor as town now, but there's a small part of me which doubts that, not best lynch for today.

You currently aren't voting anyone, technically.

Btw, you asked about my posting style. We both developed our posting styles off-site. She likes to observe a bit more, and I like to post a bit more.

Usually playstyles are null anyways.

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@

Elvis Knits

:
Again, disagree. I told you my vote on him was semi-serious. The Jil FoS was due to a misunderstanding.

I know that, that was why I asked. I didn’t like that you didn’t explain why you didn’t get the case on Earworm. You didn’t explain Earworm until your #322, and I have asked before and you only explained Earworm because Atil asked you. I feel if someone bandwagons a lot, they make it harder to read them because we can’t really see their motive except “trying to pressure people” from it. So Earworm and InHim falls into that. InHim always does that.

In your #322, you say that Earworm is following ElliFate. Which wagon to you mean he was following? Define ‘voting moderately well’ please. Not quite, seeing as I have a question addressed to you about him. Almost though.

Re: Sillyvore: See, I don’t like you attacking him now, since you DID have a town read. That gets at me. Now because of his dumbpostingz I have a null on him (because it can go either way, either town gambiting to catch opportunistic scum, or scum faking town motivation to avoid a D1 lynch), and my read on him will depend on what he does after this. I don’t usually look for people ‘slip hunting’ but it seems you and Amrun both do look for those things and I have seen her do this before so I think it’s legit in her case.

Re: Amrun: Oh, really? Hmmm. I usually always have seen her scummy, so I may consider this. I’m actually reading up on her games. I have her lower on my priority list because of her usual play, but I will be keeping an eye on her.

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@

Earworm

:

What? Earworm, can you explain the first line further. I say something and you always seem to be lazy and let my explanation be YOUR explanation by saying “Yep, that”. Please be specific. Wait, what other reasons? Explain those. I’m saying why didn’t you think of that yourself? Thank you. This is your first game correct? Have you looked at Fate’s previous games to compare this to? I do agree he isn’t helpful, doesn’t answer questions, and only does his own thing. It’s null for me. Llama sheeping is bad too.

Now that Silavor posted his big EXPLANATION, what do you think of him now? Is your read changed at all? Why or why not?

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@

Grey Ice replace in

:
Not the best replace in catch up. First half is kinda fluffly, but rest seems average. Btw, I meant Fate bro fisting. Like a hand shake but with hands closed. Non-sexual.
Why exactly is Llamarble Town here? I have seen his play before and it wasn’t like this. (I have seen more pressure, and he also brought up meta against Amrun but hasn’t brought that up this time)

Grey, why exactly do you believe Snarky is scum? I agree Cirno hasn’t done much at all.

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@

Pacman

: I disagree. Zelink’s joke would seem null to me.
Why do you think Elli’s vote on DK was opportunistic, and why not Amrun’s?

I can't take it. I can't.

VOTE: DeityKabuto

Now that Silavor claimed his gambit thingy, does that change your read on him? Why or why not? Cirno and Earworm I can agree with.

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@

Fate

: what’s your problem with Grey-Ice? Why possibly Silavore, and what did you think of his big defense post?

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@

Silavore

: Why exactly is Earworm townie to you? You seemed to be fine with voting him, now you somehow find him town? Why aren't you trying as hard as you did in your defense?

@

CKD

: We are a hydra of Ranmaru and July.

Anyways, I think Silavore's defense is null. He could be a townie trying to gambit scum opportunism, or scum trying to fake town motivation to avoid a D1 lynch. Question is, does his actions

after

his defense line up with trying much harder then just 'stupid posting' as he was before?

[evilpacman18]

My assumption with Seacore was that scum didn't know that the town would have animal roles so when he didn't get that vezok obviously claimed antelope, I thought it was a slip. I apparently missed his sarcasm in that post though and just ended up sounding stupid.

[evilpacman18]

Amrun's vote seemed more of like a "I don't care if he's scum or not, policy lynch NOW" which is a fair reaction to DK's play.

[Flavour Analysis]

Fair enough. Btw, about Hezlucky. I have seen him do a points system before, and I don't feel as if he is trying as hard as he did. Null, but I am wondering if he has given more than two scumpicks and other thoughts?

[Flavour Analysis]

So, Silavor

seems

town right now... I'm gonna keep my on you for now.

UNVOTE:

Thankfully there is wagon I fully support up here.

VOTE: Evilpacman

That catchup post was fucking terrible.
You never explained why you are on Silavor. Ever.
as for why your vote seacore was stretching...

His first serious vote is based on trying to outguess the mod.

And as a sidenote, Lowell is scum.

I forgot to mention this. Why exactly was Pacman's catch up terrible, but not Grey Ice's?

How does Silavor

seem

town now?

[Amrun]

I was never under the illusion that DK was scum, which makes me sad. I so wish, wish wish wish, he was, so I could lynch him without any guilty conscience. But he is probably town.

He's on my blacklist and I will be avoiding all games with him in like wildfire in the future, but the official blacklisting happened after this game began (and also I pre-/inned here and really wanted to play).

[PeregrineV]

Ok, I'm ready to catch up and think it's time for a claim!

I am-

What?

Death post?!? Me!?!

Well, how do you like dem apples.... (they were a tasty treat )

Oh well. Tell my kids I've retired to a zoo in Hawaii. They'll understand.

Wakati jua seti mwisho wa siku, natumaini moja ambaye alichukua maisha yangu ya kufa.

And good luck my fellow town ungulates!!

[earworm]

My daily answering to FA post:

What? Earworm, can you explain the first line further. I say something and you always seem to be lazy and let my explanation be YOUR explanation by saying “Yep, that”. Please be specific. Wait, what other reasons? Explain those. I’m saying why didn’t you think of that yourself? Thank you. This is your first game correct? Have you looked at Fate’s previous games to compare this to? I do agree he isn’t helpful, doesn’t answer questions, and only does his own thing. It’s null for me. Llama sheeping is bad too.

Now that Silavor posted his big EXPLANATION, what do you think of him now? Is your read changed at all? Why or why not?

I meant that I didn't explain my first vote further because by the time I posted again the main focus of everyone was your claim and the fake daykill. In other words it really never came to my head to explain it since there was something else that was more important.

I was talking mainly about posts #170 and #174 where you try to justify your vote on Elli, by saying you did it to prove a point. That reasoning doesn't seem very town motivated in the same way Amrun's vote on DK isn't town motivated. You should vote someone because you believe they are scum.

I didn't see it at first. But when Fate presented his case it prompted me to reread in context what he was talking about. That's when I saw it. Hopefully that answers your question.

I have finished a few games that I replaced into and I am currently playing against a Fate hydra in another game. That's where I'm getting my thoughts about Fate from. I would explain this more, but I don't know how much I can say without breaking site rules.

Re: Silavor. He's been downgraded from SCUMDIE! to nullish/town. The thing is that I can see his big post coming from a town perspective; it was filled with actual reads and it explained why he was doing the things he was doing in the first place. I can also see this post coming from scum, someone who's play has been so bad he decides to create a tabula rasa for himself in one post.

So basically I got this argument inside of me trying to figure out whether or not he's scum or not. Right now I'm leaning to more town, but damn it's hard to read someone when they change their playstyle so significantly in one post.

As for why I hated Pacman's catchup post:
Pointless fluff--"FA remembering a specific post from silavor is impressive :S"

WTF reasoning--"105 is interesting. I'm fairly certain FA didn't actually believe he was daykilled as that would be plain stupid. Scum can always get free claims, especially in a game like this, but I mean the claim definitely isn't inaccurate so +town." (FA saw gambit+claimed anyway+scum can get free claims=Town points?)

Fencesitting galore--"It's possible that Zelink is that scummy because he's scum. But that would be REALLY bad scum..."

I'm getting scum reads on all the easy people. Feel like I'm subconsciously sheeping but I have silavor, cirno, and earworm as my top 3. It's probably because I'm in catch up mode. I can't think straight in that mode. Once I'm current again I can see what I agree with for real. I would maybe be up for lynching Hezlucky too but I really do think we're right on silavor. I still don't like Altylisian, even though Snarky is right about my original point on him being false. I'll build a case off the iso at some point. That's enough towards my quota of unique, totally not sheeping scum reads for now.

This paragraph is the first time he mentions silavor. He never mentions him in the above mess of random stuff. This reads like someone who has decided who he wants to lynch without think why he wants to lynch them. You know what also reads like that?

I still don't like Altylisian, even though Snarky is right about my original point on him being false. I'll build a case off the iso at some point.

taken from the above paragraph. This is textbook "Oh I think this guy is scummy, but I'm not even going to hint why. AKA I'm scum and have no scum reads."

Re: GreyIce's catchup-- I get the feeling he's at least trying to scumhunt. It is filled with "tells" I don't think are tells, but that's null to me.

[Llamarble]

That kill felt really random.
I don't think Fate's town.
VOTE: Fate

I should probably justify my reads at some point.

[Seacore]

Not really happy with the target of that kill but then again, I'm really only skimming this game. Still happy with where my vote is.

[DeityKabuto]

Not really happy with the target of that kill but then again, I'm really only skimming this game. Still happy with where my vote is.

Do you or anybody have an idea of who might have vigged the guy?

[DeityKabuto]

My assumption with Seacore was that scum didn't know that the town would have animal roles so when he didn't get that vezok obviously claimed antelope, I thought it was a slip. I apparently missed his sarcasm in that post though and just ended up sounding stupid.

Vezok's Antelope claim was dumb, now scum know the VT role.

[Amrun]

I just realized there's a vig and he didn't shoot DK.

Son I am disappoint.

[vezokpiraka]

I just realized there's a vig and he didn't shoot DK.

Son I am disappoint.

THIS.

I.E: The vig is scum or someone who didn't play with DK yet. That narrows the list

[GreyICE]

Yes vezok lets go PR hunting