Mystery Box Mafia - Game Over

[SpyreX]

Normally I'd want to take you to the wall for that but I understand this game. It's hard to get sucked in.

TRY though I need this. Even if its just "read the list of names and give me the first thing that comes to mind"

[Neruz]

I need to go pick up my grandmother and take my little bro for his hour of driving practice so i'll be busy for the next ~2 hours or so, but just for you i'll go back and re-read day 2 and what little there is of day 3 when i get back and give you my thoughts. I'm not touching day 1 with a ten foot pole though.

[Empking]

Oh and i'm pretty sure Empking is scum because he seems to be trying to lynch me based on what is literally bullshit.

Why?

Explain how your recent posts have been for anything other than padding your iso.

My recent posts have been stopping you from trying to slide through a lynch on me based on 'semi-cop results'

which do not exist.

See this straight up is an untruth. I hadn't been trying to get lynched or even voted for you until the discussion had almost finished.

[Neruz]

Alright, i've reread days 2 and 3, thoughts:

kondi (now Empking) looks even worse. kondi was on the tail end of the CSL wagon and an ISO reveals he activee lurked and contributed nothing at all day 1. Empking himself has continued that trend quite strongly ever since he replaced into the slot, he's also made no mention whatsoever of boxes, kondi claimed having a level 2 investigative box, so i'm kind of curious what happened to that.

I don't like DeathNote either, he hasn't posted much, like kondi\emp he's contributed almost nothing to the game and i really dislike the fact that he didn't say anything at all about the blockall, his vote on CSL also looks deliciously opportunistic.

Cooldog is town. Nothing more to say on the matter.

Sathoris has been hiding behind his post restriction lately, whether or not this is a scumtell or he just doesn't feel like dealing with his obnoxious PR is hard to tell.

MoI still seems scummy, i can't put my finger on why though.

Junox seems town, though with his claimed ability i'm not sure why the scum havn't killed him yet.

Oh and i'm pretty sure Empking is scum because he seems to be trying to lynch me based on what is literally bullshit.

Why?

Explain how your recent posts have been for anything other than padding your iso.

My recent posts have been stopping you from trying to slide through a lynch on me based on 'semi-cop results'

which do not exist.

See this straight up is an untruth. I hadn't been trying to get lynched or even voted for you until the discussion had almost finished.

You had voted me, you then switched to inhim after Junox revealed that he did not in fact have any sort of 'semi cop result' on me at all. After which you proceeded to state that he had two 'semi cop results' on me.

So what, you were saying that Junox had two scum investigation results on me, but

weren't

trying to get me lynched? How exactly does that work?

[Empking]

You had voted me, you then switched to inhim after Junox revealed that he did not in fact have any sort of 'semi cop result' on me at all. After which you proceeded to state that he had two 'semi cop results' on me.

So what, you were saying that Junox had two scum investigation results on me, but

weren't

trying to get me lynched? How exactly does that work?

You said I was just wagoning and not interacting.
I replied to that claim by saying that was untrue and then pointed out that my unexplained votes were based on semi-cop claims. You can't judge my voting on you based on Junox being mistaken/lying.

[Neruz]

Riding votes on other people's points is wagoning and not interacting Empking. This is the most you've interacted with other players in the entire game thus far.

[Gammagooey]

SECRET REREAD DEPLOYMENT COMPLETED- READS MODE ENGAGE.

First- DeathNote only stating that he massroleblocked everyone After MoI claimed that both he and his secret partner were roleblocked while Neruz was at L-1 is Terrible- If Neruz is town Two mislynches could have gone down for the mistaken role information and DeathNote should have known that there was something weird going on with Junox if they had results of any kind. Add that to his completely useless play for a recipe for death.

I don't think xvart was bussing/distancing Rikana- Rikana and Reaper were the only people xvart pushed on and I don't think he would attack two scum partners and only two scum partners- if there were a larger number of players he was focusing on it would be plausible but I can't see xvart starting the game and immediately going after two scum partners while ignoring the vast numbers of townies that he have to kill off by the end of the game.

MoI is likely town and becomes very VERY likely town if Neruz flips town in the future- As scum he could have easily lurked through it and just waited for a townie to hammer on a faulty investigation instead of showing up to stop it like he did.

Junoz didn't claim an incorrect investigation as scum after a mass roleblock because it would be hella dumb. Also, the gambit d3 trying to get a reaction from Neruz looks very town. Therefore, Townz.

Pretty sure Cool is town for his attacks on xvart.

kondi (empking) claiming to have an investigation box d1 was stupid but town, scum offering to trade an investigation that could bite them in the ass later would be monstrously retarded. Plus I think his general tone and actions regarding the jester shenanigans and modlynching and irritating Yami is more likely to come from town than scum.

Lobster has the most connections to xvart and RC by a very long shot but iso 33 about Rikana looks like a legitimate scumhunting attempt so she's not dying right now.

SpyreX is a secret town read for secret reasons that may or may not be meta-related.


Everyone not on here should post more or face CONSEQUENCES. (the consequences are nooses)

[Gammagooey]

Exception: Neruz has posted enough but is still a fairly null read- He becomes TownTownTown if Deathnote flips scum however.

[Neruz]

I would have thought i'd become scumscumscum if DeathNote flips scum as his blockall claim basically stopped my lynch and saved me.

[Rikana]

But Neruz is scumscumscum anyway.

[Sathoris]

UNVOTE: Inhim

VOTE: Empking - pprtnsm n th nrz dbt nd hvng n nvstgtn bx wtht bng klld b scm.

[Empking]

Riding votes on other people's points is wagoning and not interacting Empking.

But why is following two investigations scummy?

Sathoris: What opportunism?

[Sathoris]

ths

[Seraphim]

Vote Count:

Rikana(2)

- LobsterCatapult, MagnaofIllusion

DeathNote(2)

- danakillsu, Gammagooey

Neruz(4)

- inHimshallibe, Junox, Rikana, Empking

Empking(2)

- Neruz, Sathoris

Not Voting(3)

- DeathNote, SpyreX, CooLDoG

With 13 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2011-07-24 19:38:00)

[LobsterCatapult]

*facepalm* i never said you were a battleship. its a refrence to a boardgame.

1) oh yeah, it started discussion, sure. you know, scum can start discussion to. i do not see how the way you phrased your vote was pro town at all. it gave you a lot of outs, so no one could pin your vote on anything except (gasp) starting discussion.

2) what im saying is that this juncture, and WHY you said your vote was voting for the person who was the most opportunistic, you should have voted DN, because in fact his vote WAS the most opportunistic. your reasons for voting, and your votes do NOT correlate. this is is interpretted as distancing from xvart because putting your vote down on him is safer than DN because DN might actually call you out on it. even DN says his vote was the more opportunstic.

3) saying somone can fall in a pit was interpretted as a vague threat by me. you didnt explain it.

4)except you DIDNT say that was the reason you voted.

She's appealing to emotion and flailing around like a scum chicken with it's head cut off. Need I say more?

--Ninja'd--

Yami, any proof to back it up?

I hate you being right.

Unvote, Vote: Yami

you didnt note her 120, when you VOTED for her. and she did say in her own words why CSL and Neruz were scummy. she said they were targetting her for false reasons. im not saying that they are good reasons or that they apply, but targetting someone for false reasons is scummy.

No, it prolly made you think: "well...i guess i can put my vote on this really scummy townie, hey at the worst they are 3rd party right? i can just say i was fooled just like everyone else"

that isnt what you said. you said that you can change your mind, not that you have to go back and look over him. your point on your vote with xvart is that you are still giving yourself OUTS. you are like, "well, i like my vote on primate, and yeah xvart was scummy, but his 182 isnt scummy... but i can totally change my mind". you are saying your scumbuddy could be scummy, while saying, oh while voting a townie.

what...on earth changed your mind from saying you didnt want to lynch dkab...to wanting to lynch dkab? why was he the only plausible lynch d2? maybe its because im kinda hungover, but i dont understand what you are saying here. are you saying that me finding a relationship to vote dkab (him and rc) was the reason you voted for him?

and why woudlnt someone care about a vote? what?

[Empking]

ths

So following the obv-town investigator when they claim a guilty. Cool.

[danakillsu]

Has anyone noticed the complete lack of defense on DeathNote's part. More votes need to go there until we at least get this scum to publicly crack rather than active lurk.

[Rikana]

Has anyone noticed the complete lack of defense on DeathNote's part. More votes need to go there until we at least get this scum to publicly crack rather than active lurk.

This is rather usual for him, and is starting to get on my nerves because of it.

Just wait, he's going to flaunt about his title next.

1) oh yeah, it started discussion, sure. you know, scum can start discussion to. i do not see how the way you phrased your vote was pro town at all. it gave you a lot of outs, so no one could pin your vote on anything except (gasp) starting discussion.

Scum can do it, but town is more likely to do it.

See, this is where your case gets really fizzy and starts to dwindle down into a rampaging tunnel. You're arguing about what scum can do, rather than what scum will do. Scum can do anything, and town can do anything. Town can act scummy, and we usually lynch scummy town. Scum can act townie, and we usually don't lynch these illusive scum. We lynch the people who look the worst, which are usually scum, unless the scum are playing the town like a fiddle.

2) what im saying is that this juncture, and WHY you said your vote was voting for the person who was the most opportunistic, you should have voted DN, because in fact his vote WAS the most opportunistic. your reasons for voting, and your votes do NOT correlate. this is is interpretted as distancing from xvart because putting your vote down on him is safer than DN because DN might actually call you out on it. even DN says his vote was the more opportunstic.

But that's opinion. Just because someone says something, doesn't mean that it is. You're justifying someone else's word to be your word, which isn't very good.

3) saying somone can fall in a pit was interpretted as a vague threat by me. you didnt explain it.

Pit equates to group. Again, what is so scummy about this "threat"? I highly doubt that Juls was threatened by this, nor even cared about it.

4)except you DIDNT say that was the reason you voted.

She's appealing to emotion and flailing around like a scum chicken with it's head cut off. Need I say more?

That's what she's doing in those posts...

No, it prolly made you think: "well...i guess i can put my vote on this really scummy townie, hey at the worst they are 3rd party right? i can just say i was fooled just like everyone else"

I'm honestly going to ignore your new cases if more this assuming bullshit comes up.

that isnt what you said. you said that you can change your mind, not that you have to go back and look over him. your point on your vote with xvart is that you are still giving yourself OUTS. you are like, "well, i like my vote on primate, and yeah xvart was scummy, but his 182 isnt scummy... but i can totally change my mind". you are saying your scumbuddy could be scummy, while saying, oh while voting a townie.

That assuming bullshit is coming back, but I'll answer to the parts that actually have a valid point. Yes, I didn't say that I was going to go look over him. I probably should've. If that's your case against me, go ahead and lynch me for that. I can't say anything against it without lying.

what...on earth changed your mind from saying you didnt want to lynch dkab...to wanting to lynch dkab? why was he the only plausible lynch d2? maybe its because im kinda hungover, but i dont understand what you are saying here. are you saying that me finding a relationship to vote dkab (him and rc) was the reason you voted for him?

No, your point didn't make any coherent sense.

and why woudlnt someone care about a vote? what?

Nice misrep. You honestly just looked at that paragraph skimmed it and looked for the single thing that looked scummy out-of-context. I'm getting annoyed from your annoying accusations.

[Rikana]

Yeah. That's messed up in terms of formatting.

not going to fix it.

[CooLDoG]

I'm back. I'll catch up this morning (in a few minutes) or later this afternoon (try 5:00 o'clock).
[/b]mod:fyi, I'm out of V/LA![/b]

[CooLDoG]

yay! my bold tags screwed up! yay.

[CooLDoG]

Does anybody else see anything wrong with the below?

ReaperCharlie

(4) -

xvart

, inHimshallibe,

hohum

,

DeityKabuto

CooLDoG(1) -

Primate

Neruz(1) - Empking
inHimshallibe(1) - Sathoris

xvart

(3) -

Kublai Khan

, MagnaofIllusion, Junox

Primate

(1) - Rikana

inHim is probably town

. MoI/Juno flip would be beautiful here.

ReaperCharlie

(2) - inHimshallibe,

hohum

CooLDoG(1) -

Primate

xvart

(9) - MagnaofIllusion,

ReaperCharlie

, Kublai Khan, Neruz, SpyreX, Sathoris,

DeityKabuto

, CoolDoG,

xvart

Primate

(1) - Rikana

DeityKabuto

(1) - Empking

Xvart is going to lead to scum. I'm highly doubtful there's only 2 scum here.

inHim is meeeeeh. He would buss here.

Junox hammers Xvart. Can't see him being scum. That would make MoI scum by association of the previous Xvart lynch. This looks beautiful.

Also, fyi, your vote analysis basically sucked, I just want th throw that out there.

See, why couldn't you just say Junox?

Junox has no 'semi cop results' on me, his first 'result' has been counteracted by DeathNote's blockall, and last night he targeted DK, not me. So good work paying attention to the game there Empking.

Shit defense!

Why do i get the feeling that SpyreX is trying to get town cred by saying i'm not scum?

REally bad soft omgus! This is actually one of the strongest omguses in context that I have seen in a while. My opinion.

I'm not sweating geting lynched today, i don't really have a lot to contribute at the moment so my getting lynched wouldn't be a terrible idea. Something about your saying i'm town just seemed off though; i don't know why exactly, but i thought i'd take the opportunity to talk about it.

So you admit to not being useful? And remember that post where you said you had no reads?

I'm not really sure i have a scum list. Empking looks terrible on ISO and for some reason i feel that MoI is scummy. But i don't really have a lot right now. All the craziness with roles and boxes and modkills and whatnot has really derailed my train of thought.

I might just have to fall back on looking for the scum trying to lynch me at this rate.

In d-3 and you don't have any good reads. Great job, you are one helluva scum hunter.

Oh and i'm pretty sure Empking is scum because he seems to be trying to lynch me based on what is literally bullshit.

Why?

Explain how your recent posts have been for anything other than padding your iso.

My recent posts have been stopping you from trying to slide through a lynch on me based on 'semi-cop results'

which do not exist.

No no. Just general reads.

At this point you've got to have at least some real feelings about some more than 2 people either side of the fence.

I'm sure if i went back and re-read the thread i'd get something, but i really don't feel like slogging through 49 pages, especially since something like half those pages are full of YamiChan. The long nights and hohum's modkill have completely detached my train of thought for this game. Hell i forgot this game even existed during the last night phase.

So you aren't even going to try to contribute to the town. Good job! Do you want a sticker? Also notes, "Forgot about the night phase" part. I'll store it away for later.

Alright, i've reread days 2 and 3, thoughts:

kondi (now Empking) looks even worse. kondi was on the tail end of the CSL wagon and an ISO reveals he activee lurked and contributed nothing at all day 1. Empking himself has continued that trend quite strongly ever since he replaced into the slot, he's also made no mention whatsoever of boxes, kondi claimed having a level 2 investigative box, so i'm kind of curious what happened to that.

I don't like DeathNote either, he hasn't posted much, like kondi\emp he's contributed almost nothing to the game and i really dislike the fact that he didn't say anything at all about the blockall, his vote on CSL also looks deliciously opportunistic.

Cooldog is town. Nothing more to say on the matter.

Sathoris has been hiding behind his post restriction lately, whether or not this is a scumtell or he just doesn't feel like dealing with his obnoxious PR is hard to tell.

MoI still seems scummy, i can't put my finger on why though.

Junox seems town, though with his claimed ability i'm not sure why the scum havn't killed him yet.

Oh and i'm pretty sure Empking is scum because he seems to be trying to lynch me based on what is literally bullshit.

Why?

Explain how your recent posts have been for anything other than padding your iso.

My recent posts have been stopping you from trying to slide through a lynch on me based on 'semi-cop results'

which do not exist.

See this straight up is an untruth. I hadn't been trying to get lynched or even voted for you until the discussion had almost finished.

You had voted me, you then switched to inhim after Junox revealed that he did not in fact have any sort of 'semi cop result' on me at all. After which you proceeded to state that he had two 'semi cop results' on me.

So what, you were saying that Junox had two scum investigation results on me, but

weren't

trying to get me lynched? How exactly does that work?

Now this is a half-good post. See what happens when you re-read?
But one thing that you forget is that all of this semi-cop thing is dependent on if deathnote is telling the truth. If deathnote is on your scum team, his claim really got you off the fucking hook didn't it? And as gammory (sorry for name) points out in the next post, death only starts talking after new information came into light...
@gammeroy: But why would neruz flip town if death is scum? I think you ment it the other way around. If not, explain.

Has anyone noticed the complete lack of defense on DeathNote's part. More votes need to go there until we at least get this scum to publicly crack rather than active lurk.

This. I agree 100%.

unvote, vote: Deathnote

rikana is second, and neruz brings up the pack at 3rd. If deathnote flips scum then I'm going right to neruz.

[inHimshallibe]

Oh and i'm pretty sure Empking is scum because he seems to be trying to lynch me based on what is literally bullshit.

Why?

Explain how your recent posts have been for anything other than padding your iso.

My recent posts have been stopping you from trying to slide through a lynch on me based on 'semi-cop results'

which do not exist.

No no. Just general reads.

At this point you've got to have at least some real feelings about some more than 2 people either side of the fence.

I'm sure if i went back and re-read the thread i'd get something, but i really don't feel like slogging through 49 pages, especially since something like half those pages are full of YamiChan. The long nights and hohum's modkill have completely detached my train of thought for this game. Hell i forgot this game even existed during the last night phase.

lol

[Rikana]

CooLDoG: I did it subjectively in terms of what it looks like each person would be doing at each moment, rather than a full run through.

I made conclusions at the end. If you don't like it, perhaps you should do one on your on.

In addition, is your scum read on me still gut?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Comprehensive catch-up post tonight or tomorrow.

Work has made me its bitch today.