MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Cosca wrote:The person that was bussed all along and is therefore scum with Scumhunter. We actually had some arguments for that but you decided to clip them and go OMG SCUM instead.
The clarity of the above sentence is not high. I’m not sure what exactly you are saying here.
No problem. Let me clarify it for you with an example:
I note with interest you dodge completely that your reasoning for killing me over the Cop claimed Guilty in the circumstance that Scumhunter flippd scum is so scummy it hurts.
You ignore our arguments and just go "Cosca is scum", or rather, "so scummy it hurts".
Regarding your so called back-track – it wasn’t one. I was clarifying what I wrote.
ISO #39:
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
ATTENTION EVERYONE
- It is him or me today. Not other Executioner votes are going to be acceptable at this juncture.
ISO #41:
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Ok, perhaps in my quick reply last night before bed I didn’t phrase it as clearly as I should have.
No other votes for WHO to be executed are acceptable.
That's not a "clarification", that's a contradiction.
Funny that everytime the accusation is levelled at you it isn’t a valid but when you fire it off it is a Black Letter scumtell.
The quotes should explain the difference between your accusations and ours.
1. I had a Zang Town read and believe his claim.
2. Quilford pulled the “I’m a Miller” after the Cop claim. That’s scum play. Even if he had other powers he should have claimed just the miller portion Day 1 immediately.
3. Zang being more or less confirmed with a Quil scum flip also confirms Scumhunter as almost certainly scum to everyone not just me.
Let's view this from town-MoI perspective.
Town-MoI is confirmed town to himself. That means Scumhunter can't be a sane cop, he's either a cop, but insane or paranoid, or scum. Since Scumhunter behaved scummy since his fakeclaim, the latter possibility is much more likely.
Therefore, to let Scumhunter be scum, town-MoI must assume the following:
- Scumhunter, who is very scummy, is in fact scum.
To let Quilford be scum, town-MoI must assume the following:
- Zang, who appeared generally towny, is in fact town.
- Zang is a sane cop.
- Quilford, who was town to neutral, is scum.
- Quilford's power role claim is fake.
Now let's view this from scum-MoI perspective.
Scumhunter executed an intentionally bad fakeclaim and fake-guilty on MoI for town cred. MoI was willing to sacrifice a scumbuddy; but as soon as another opportunity came along, he immediately preferred the other execution to try to let his scumbuddy live through one more night, trying to snipe the night executor.
I'm sure you all can see in which of the two situations a Quilford execution makes more sense than a Scumhunter execution.
That doesn't mean I don't want Scumhunter killed. But if more players I have Town reads on want to go with Quilford I will.
ISO #41:
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
I’m willing to support execution of Quilford or Scumhunter.
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I support Zang for Day Executioner to kill Quilford. If Quilford flips scum we elect him again and he executes fake-claiming Scumhunter.
ISO #46:
MagnaofIllusion wrote:It doesn't mean that I don't want Scumhunter dead. It simply means that Quilford is another good choice.
Sometimes, Quilford is the only acceptable execution; sometimes, Quilford is preferred, sometimes, you'd only be willing to go along with his execution if more players agree. You even managed to contradict yourself in one post.
