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Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:13 pm

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Brandi wrote:So I really really like Annie but I'm not too great with her. If anyone know of any good guides I should read about for her... or just the game in general, that would be helpful~ Because even though I'd love to play with most of you, you are all at or near level 30 and so I feel more accomplished being able to get a couple kills in noob games than maybe pulling off an assist and trying to die less than 10 times with all you pro's <_<;


what about playing in games against bots? It's less pressure and more about learning.
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Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:25 pm

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http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide ... nnie.xhtml

Great guide for learning to solo mid.

Can't find the really good other guide I read. I used to play Annie ALOT so if you have any questions just ask. Also playing with higher leveled players helps you develop as a player better. Try to duo queue with just one scummer as that wont raise the level of the opponents so much. Lane together and get the other scummer to give you a running commentary of what you should do. Ask questions and make decisions and that should make you a better player in no time.

Also very happy with the free champs this week. Quite a few I want to either try or develop before I buy them. coughchoshennidcough
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Espeonage wrote:http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide ... nnie.xhtml

Great guide for learning to solo mid.

Can't find the really good other guide I read. I used to play Annie ALOT so if you have any questions just ask. Also playing with higher leveled players helps you develop as a player better. Try to duo queue with just one scummer as that wont raise the level of the opponents so much. Lane together and get the other scummer to give you a running commentary of what you should do. Ask questions and make decisions and that should make you a better player in no time.

Also very happy with the free champs this week. Quite a few I want to either try or develop before I buy them. coughchoshennidcough


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Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:03 pm

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Brandi wrote:So I really really like Annie but I'm not too great with her. If anyone know of any good guides I should read about for her... or just the game in general, that would be helpful~ Because even though I'd love to play with most of you, you are all at or near level 30 and so I feel more accomplished being able to get a couple kills in noob games than maybe pulling off an assist and trying to die less than 10 times with all you pro's <_<;


I'd link some guides that I found on a quick search, but they all recommend mejai's soulstealer, which I feel is not at all a good item choice, so yeah.

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When it comes to playing annie specifically, a main thing is to use disintegrate (her q) as a last hit on minions. Since you get the mana back on each kill it's equivalent to an auto attack and makes farming gold
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easier. Her ult is a really, really great way to make use of your passive stun, as it's got the largest area of effect / longest effective range of her spells. Don't forget to use alt + right click to control tibbers. Even after you've casted and someone has seemingly gotten away in a fight, you can alt + right click to send tibbers after them. This is actually an effective tool in lane if you miss a kill with your combo, as tibbers is essentially free harass and can sometimes even finish particularly low champions.

Even if you don't have tibbers for the stun ,using your w is also fine. Both of them are AoE, meaning it's possible to get multiple enemies (and in team fights you should be focusing on getting the more-than-one stun and then blowing up a squishy champion whenever possible). Also consider alternative uses for your stun other than offense: if you see a nunu charging his ult or katarina casting her ult, you should stun them asap, even if you have to use your q to do it.

When it comes to overall playstyle, I tend to play a more last-hit focused annie until about level 4, but you should feel free to act aggressively in lane before then. Charging up your stun and then using it on the enemy champ(s) for essentially free harass is an effective tool in lane. At level 6, annie has pretty much complete lane dominance against most, and you should abuse this. Charge up your stun and then push the opponents away from minions in fear of getting stunned, chase to have them pop a summoner's spell when you have no intention of blowing up on them, and slowly edge their hp down to the point where you can jump on them.

I happen to be a lover of annie even if I've not played her lately, so this is my generic advice regarding her.

Also: you should give us your summoner name, brandi. We can at least add you in game even if you don't want to play until you're better. Aside from that, I'm pretty sure most of us are even willing to play against bots to help you improve.
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Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:10 pm

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Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:13 pm

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Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:14 pm

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Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:25 pm

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Timeater wrote:not you too fate

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Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:30 pm

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Brandi wrote:So I really really like Annie but I'm not too great with her. If anyone know of any good guides I should read about for her... or just the game in general, that would be helpful~ Because even though I'd love to play with most of you, you are all at or near level 30 and so I feel more accomplished being able to get a couple kills in noob games than maybe pulling off an assist and trying to die less than 10 times with all you pro's <_<;


You almost have as many normal wins as me already :P
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Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:35 pm

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Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:36 pm

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Thanks for the lovely advice guys~<33

Also Has, I have played a few against bots and those were fine, but I'm doing -ok- so far now against other newbies. Haven't had too many smurfs to worry about either, surprisingly.
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Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:58 pm

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So I started getting level 3 in Morgana's aoe ASAP instead of going dark binding first and holy balls I'm so good at farming now. And then usually murder the enemy hero anyway because they're being silly.
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Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:02 pm

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I'm getting back into Nids; forgot how beastly she gets @_@
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Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:11 pm

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Gammagooey wrote:So I started getting level 3 in Morgana's aoe ASAP instead of going dark binding first and holy balls I'm so good at farming now. And then usually murder the enemy hero anyway because they're being silly.


Just be careful with the AoE farming as you're going to be perma-pushed and Morg is tied for slowest hero in the game, it's also fairly mana intensive and means no points in B.Shield.

Brandi wrote:So I really really like Annie but I'm not too great with her. If anyone know of any good guides I should read about for her... or just the game in general, that would be helpful


Annie is a good hero to learn as her Q is last hit teaching tool due to it's mana refund and her role in team fights is pretty straight forward (point at the thing you want dead and roll your hand along the keyboard from right to left spamming left clicks).

While not really here is a pretty decent FAQ for more general game related stuff (as opposed to hero specific).

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Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:15 pm

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Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:18 pm

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Brandi wrote:So I really really like Annie but I'm not too great with her. If anyone know of any good guides I should read about for her... or just the game in general, that would be helpful~ Because even though I'd love to play with most of you, you are all at or near level 30 and so I feel more accomplished being able to get a couple kills in noob games than maybe pulling off an assist and trying to die less than 10 times with all you pro's <_<;


what about playing in games against bots? It's less pressure and more about learning.


IMO, bots don't have anything to teach you once you've learned the basics of the game. They are too awful to actually teach skill or strategy. Bots are just for figuring out how to use your abilities.
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Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:05 pm

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Gammagooey wrote:So I started getting level 3 in Morgana's aoe ASAP instead of going dark binding first and holy balls I'm so good at farming now. And then usually murder the enemy hero anyway because they're being silly.


Everyone is playing my mains. Woah.

Ok Morg should go Tormented Soil/Dark Binding/Tormented Soil/Dark Shield/Tormented Soil/Soul Shackles

From there level up Dark Binding to full unless you are having trouble with mages. Also if you have no other AP item other than Doran's Ring when you hit 9 put a 4th point in Tormented Soil so you still take out a full creep wave with just that.

I have a flow chart of what to build if you want it. It has worked well for me even in ranked. I absolutely facemelted with it and it also has paths if you run into trouble which can get you out of a bad spot.

Just at the things Ray said. Stun harass early game isn't a good idea. Harass with your Auto Attack and farm without your Q. Annie has very high early game mana costs. Also make sure that once you hit 6 you are zoning with your stun up and start farming with your auto attack (Obv don't just auto last hit only) as this lets you shut down their farm which still keeping your mana to get out of a gank or unleash a combo to get a kill. The magic number for annie is about 325 or so. Get to that amount before you engage an enemy as that will let you get a full combo off. Ad a little more if you are going for a surprise shield into bear stun.
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Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:17 pm

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I prefer to go one point into dark binding at 1, one point into tormented soil at 2, one point into blackshield at 3, and then tormented soil prioritization. It's an effective farming tool, and great harrass when you land a dark binding. It also is going to give you the most sustain in a lane if you're soloing. Alternating between darkbinding and tormented soil also works.

but that is just my preference.
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Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:20 pm

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I was solo ranked queuing.

My pubs planned out a three way swap, one of them asked if they could jungle and everyone was polite and nice, bought wards and co-ordinated.

We utterly crushed the other team.

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Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:54 pm

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Brandi wrote:So I really really like Annie but I'm not too great with her. If anyone know of any good guides I should read about for her... or just the game in general, that would be helpful~ Because even though I'd love to play with most of you, you are all at or near level 30 and so I feel more accomplished being able to get a couple kills in noob games than maybe pulling off an assist and trying to die less than 10 times with all you pro's <_<;


what about playing in games against bots? It's less pressure and more about learning.


IMO, bots don't have anything to teach you once you've learned the basics of the game. They are too awful to actually teach skill or strategy. Bots are just for figuring out how to use your abilities.


The intermediates in co-op v AI aren't that bad actually. Of course, I'm not good at the game either, so take that how you will.
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Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:40 pm

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Phone post! Anyway I just dc'd from a game with nabrond my internet went out and I was lagging the whole game so :/. But I dc'd in the middle of our push to win. :(
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Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:42 pm

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Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:05 pm

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Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:06 pm

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Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:10 pm

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;-;

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