SMBM II: Defense of Yoshi's Island (Final! MVPs announced!)

[Sunset]

DemonHybrid, link me to any game where TheJakalope-town decides to specifically give null reads on two players before ignoring half the playerlist. Because otherwise that defence is BS.

Some things can be attributted to VI-ness or playstyle (such as not explaining reads or generally being terrible), but this is different and is illogical on the level of a four-year old - you don't really have to play Mafia well or even know about it to understand. It's more effort specifically giving two (out of 27 or whatever) null-reads than not, for what will obviously be no benefit at all (for TOWN), and that kind of thinking should have been wiped out through evolution.

There is however potential scum benefit in that these artificial null reads (which TheJakalope has pulled out of his ass) probably are an attempt to look more town through giving reads.

What does this imply to you? Do you mean that we and Vifam is scum if TheJakalope is scum, or what?

~Johhog

[Isa]

I support the wagon on Jakalope (though I'm doubtful if it'll result in something) but come on folks, DIDDIN NEEDS VOTES.

manho, show me your support for lynching this scum. The rest of you as well.

[Hoppster]

What does this imply to you? Do you mean that we and Vifam is scum if TheJakalope is scum, or what?

Assuming TheJakalope flips scum:

diddin is very probably scum through inclusion on scumlist (with RBT-town) and then 'whoops I have no reason to suspect this guy'.

Your slot and Vifam's probably aren't both scum. In the unlikely case that diddin isn't scum then one of those two slots probably is. If diddin is scum then I'd say your inclusion on the neutral list is null.

[projectmatt]

I support the wagon on Jakalope (though I'm doubtful if it'll result in something) but come on folks, DIDDIN NEEDS VOTES.

manho, show me your support for lynching this scum. The rest of you as well.

If you are doubtful it will result in anything, why do you support it? I agree, also. Diddin is scum. So is Jake. I'm still working out who the other scum are, but those are my top reads. Isa, what are your other scum reads?

[DemonHybrid]

DemonHybrid, link me to any game where TheJakalope-town decides to specifically give null reads on two players before ignoring half the playerlist. Because otherwise that defence is BS.

Some things can be attributted to VI-ness or playstyle (such as not explaining reads or generally being terrible), but this is different and is illogical on the level of a four-year old - you don't really have to play Mafia well or even know about it to understand. It's more effort specifically giving two (out of 27 or whatever) null-reads than not, for what will obviously be no benefit at all (for TOWN), and that kind of thinking should have been wiped out through evolution.

There is however potential scum benefit in that these artificial null reads (which TheJakalope has pulled out of his ass) probably are an attempt to look more town through giving reads.

I didn't say he did specifically that. I said he doesn't give a shit about his games, so he WOULD do something like that as either alignment. It is NOT scum-indicative specifically.

[David Xanatos]

Okay. I'll be honest here.. I've had some shit to deal with in real life lately.

I've had a lecturer claim a coursework piece was late which has meant I need to resit two seperate modules in second year, meaning I need to delay third year by a year, I've been trying hard to get this overturned but it simply hasn't worked, I'm shitting myself about my dad getting home from his fortnight away with the Territorial Army because he's going to kill me, I feel bad because through all this I haven't been able to get a part time job since the last place sacked me because of an error on the payroll department's part (I was booked for 3 weeks holiday, they put me down for 2, so I was classed as AWOL for the last week and rather than fix it, they sacked me.) and all in all, I've been feeling pretty shit about things. I'm telling you all this because yes, I haven't been putting as much effort in here as I should be. I intend to fix that, starting now. So, I'm asking for a little time to re-read, draw up some proper thoughts et cetera. I will give the focus required here from now.

[hiplop]

no problem dave, hope stuff gets better =]

[manho]

I support the wagon on Jakalope (though I'm doubtful if it'll result in something) but come on folks, DIDDIN NEEDS VOTES.

manho, show me your support for lynching this scum. The rest of you as well.

i wasn't voting diddin? [checking my ISO...] thought that i've done it.

unvote, vote diddin

this is better than the jakalope-lynch.

[Celebloki]

prod dodge, I still believe Jaka is scum and I haven't seen a compelling reason to move my vote.

[chkflip]

Wow, so basically this town is filled to the brim with ass-hats that want to prod dodge all day.

Stay classy, town.

[TheJakalope]

@Mod:

Vote Count Please?

[Sunset]

The only changes since the last one is that DH switched his vote from BL to WLC, chkflip voted you and manho switched his vote from BL to diddin. You're at L-2.

~Johhog

[TheJakalope]

meta is terrible.

if jak flips scum, DH comes under scrutiny.

I'll be L-1, if no objections.

This is a bad post.

Would anyone else like to join the WLC wagon? Now with 80% Chance of lynching SCUM!

[chkflip]

I'm actually inclined to agree with Clone there. Who asks if there are objections to an L-1 vote? Seems off to me, too.

[Vifam]

I don't see how that's scummy at all, but whatever.


Nothing is happening.

[TheJakalope]

Please look at WLC's Iso, and tell me he isn't scum.

[chkflip]

Give a case, guy. Do

something

half pro-town and maybe I'll take you seriously.

[hiplop]

I just don't have much to add right now. :\

[TheJakalope]

Got prodded, sorry for not posting earlier. Didn't know it'd go this quick (16 pages in three days, really).

The wagon on RBT has grown extremely quick in my opinion. His OMGUS on DH was a bit awkward, but okay.
At this point I find DH the most suspicious. It seems he takes things that are kinda null-tell, and tries to make a bit of a scum-thing out of it. First with Vifam, then with RBT.

Unvote. Vote: DemonHybrid.

Unvote. Vote: TheJakalope.

Want some proof he's up to date and keeping his promise of more content (I know I haven't done much either, but I'm didn't make a big empty promise), but in the meantime just jumping on the biggest wagon without additional reason.

I don't like how DH is now turning BL in some sort of scapegoat, while I feel he was the driving force Day1, and seems he's taken over now today, and not getting any problems with it.

Vote: DemonHydrid.

Vifam is coming in as a close second,

Okay, rereading the thread, DH kinda had some reasons to dislike RBT's play. Still don't like how in the end he wanted RBT to replace out, and also not how day 2 with an utmost certainty went after BL, but still. My vote on him is wasted anyway at this point.

Unvote.

I didn't like TheJakalope's play day 1, promising content, not giving any, and then jumping on RBT's wagon with much additional reason, and day 2 hasn't improved much.

Vote: TheJakalope.

These are WeyounsLastClone's votes. He has just switched between DH and myself since near the end of day one. His last vote for me isn't anything new either. He's essentially saying, "hey this wagon's bigger, and even though nothing's changed since I voted DH, I still am going to hop wagons until one of them gets lynched."

VOTE: WLC

Did you not see this, chkflip?

[Isa]

I just don't have much to add right now. :\

Stance on diddin as scum?

[Sunset]

Got prodded, sorry for not posting earlier. Didn't know it'd go this quick (16 pages in three days, really).

The wagon on RBT has grown extremely quick in my opinion. His OMGUS on DH was a bit awkward, but okay.
At this point I find DH the most suspicious. It seems he takes things that are kinda null-tell, and tries to make a bit of a scum-thing out of it. First with Vifam, then with RBT.

Unvote. Vote: DemonHybrid.

Unvote. Vote: TheJakalope.

Want some proof he's up to date and keeping his promise of more content (I know I haven't done much either, but I'm didn't make a big empty promise), but in the meantime just jumping on the biggest wagon without additional reason.

I don't like how DH is now turning BL in some sort of scapegoat, while I feel he was the driving force Day1, and seems he's taken over now today, and not getting any problems with it.

Vote: DemonHydrid.

Vifam is coming in as a close second,

Okay, rereading the thread, DH kinda had some reasons to dislike RBT's play. Still don't like how in the end he wanted RBT to replace out, and also not how day 2 with an utmost certainty went after BL, but still. My vote on him is wasted anyway at this point.

Unvote.

I didn't like TheJakalope's play day 1, promising content, not giving any, and then jumping on RBT's wagon with much additional reason, and day 2 hasn't improved much.

Vote: TheJakalope.

These are WeyounsLastClone's votes. He has just switched between DH and myself since near the end of day one. His last vote for me isn't anything new either. He's essentially saying, "hey this wagon's bigger, and even though nothing's changed since I voted DH, I still am going to hop wagons until one of them gets lynched."

VOTE: WLC

Did you not see this, chkflip?

Meh, no real analysis there. Add some own content instead.

I might change our vote to TheJakalope later. Have to catch Twistedspoon first, haven't spoke to him in a couple of days.

~Johhog

[hiplop]

I just don't have much to add right now. :\

Stance on diddin as scum?

possible but not on my scumdar atm... not quite sure who is, I lost my notes. Sunset, and Bunnylover is who I remember.

VOTE: jakalope, best lynch for today, and this day needs to end ._.

[WeyounsLastClone]

meta is terrible.

if jak flips scum, DH comes under scrutiny.

I'll be L-1, if no objections.

This is a bad post.

Would anyone else like to join the WLC wagon? Now with 80% Chance of lynching SCUM!

That you don't see Kcda's post as scummy seems strange to me. What town reason is there to ask if their are any objections to your L-1 vote?
Also, while I agree I could've post more, the other argument that I just switch between you and DH is strange to me as well. You're two of my biggest scumsuspects, and would like to see either of you lynched. Since DH doesn't seem a viable lynch today, I think it's only logical to go for a Jakalope lynch today. If my point of views would differ greatly from day 1 to day 2, you could have a case, but now it feels you're just grasping.

[Isa]

JAKALOPE IS NOW AT L-1.

Seeing as multiple persons have stated their willingness to vote Jakalope, I suppose a claim is in order.

[TheJakalope]

Claim

:Stork.

Each night I investigate one person and am told whether or not they are a baby.

If they are a baby, then they a Masonry QT is created, however, apparently there are Anti-Town baby roles.

Night 1 I investigated Sunset and was told that they aren't a baby.