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↑ DemonHybrid wrote:Frank and scooby, since you obviously don't get it,
Espeonage claimed a different character and flipped a different Mafia character.
Vifam CLAIMED OVERLORD. WHY WOULD SCUM CLAIM OVERLORD WHEN SCUM HAS A FAKE CLAIM
SERIOUSLY WHY DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH VIFAM
THAT IS STUPID.
This much is a good point about Vifam. The theory we were working from IIRC is that Kerrigan is her own fakeclaim and she got spooked.
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Tell me, Mr. ooba.
WHAT IS THE FUCKING PROTOWN THING VIFAM HAS DONE THE WHOLE GAME?
Seriously, go ISO HIM.
This is not a fucking LYNCH for flavor. This is a lynch for DIESCUMDIESDUMSUCKDIESCUMDIE.
↑ DemonHybrid wrote:Frank and scooby, since you obviously don't get it,
Espeonage claimed a different character and flipped a different Mafia character.
Vifam CLAIMED OVERLORD. WHY WOULD SCUM CLAIM OVERLORD WHEN SCUM HAS A FAKE CLAIM
SERIOUSLY WHY DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH VIFAM
THAT IS STUPID.
It's pretty CLEAR Vifam is not scum with Espeonage, specially since Vifam hammered without a claim. We don't know for sure he has a fakeclaim but what we know is that she is SCUMMY as fuck.
Seriously, this is fucking ROAD TO ROME or what?
If you know that scum has fakeclaims, you can be sure that "cult" (I still laugh at the fact that that term is being used in this game) has a fakeclaim and wouldn't be forced to fucking claim overlord.
Frank's only case is "LOL HE CLAIMED OVERLROD LYFNFHF HUISHFIOSHFUSHI"
You pointed out some more things, but that may just be dumb play.
Does no one do nightkill analysis nowadays or what
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KillerJester suspected Mothas, Vifam, and one other suspect I can't recall. There are no useful or interesting omissions or inclusions re: his suspect list AFAICT.
His kill can also be justified as doctor paranoia or watcher paranoia.
His kill can also be justified as doctor paranoia or watcher paranoia.
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Actually, I think scum almost always go for the non-WIFOM kill these days being that no one does NK-analysis anymore. So it's a decent tool, especially early on in the game, though you have to be wary of other factors (e.g. was the dead player just an obv leader, in which case he didn't necessarily have to be correct in the short term, etc).
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Alright so a grand total of nothing has happened since I have left. With scum having fakeclaims, I do not understand why Vifam's claim is such a big deal. Again, apparently flavor does not make sense (and I am clueless about) but wouldn't scum having fakeclaims almost make Vifam more town than anything else. His play has certainly been less than stellar but having such an odd role would lead me to believe that it's not a fakeclaim. Especially when the mod said don't try and guess the flavor.
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Shut up. We went through all of this.
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"overmind"
Lol, you don't even know the claim that you're voting over
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No, it'll be more like I told YOU so.
THE NUMBERS DON'T MAKE SENSE WITH A CULT
I am LITERALLY just banging my head against the desk here. You know what's funny about this whole situation? There could be a Kerrigan AND SHE COULD EVEN BE TOWN
And why is that? Because DeathNote SPECIFICALLY SAID that ANY character could be ANY alignment and I'm betting that with 1. The Overlord claim and 2. despite the fact that scum have fakeclaims.
Could Kerrigan even be aligned with Mengsk? YES. THAT IS POSSIBLE.
Could Infested Kerrigan be town? YES. THAT IS POSSIBLE.
With that in mind, WHY WOULD VIFAM CLAIM A SCUMMY NAME IF SCUM HAVE FAKECLAIMS?
NONE OF YOU ARE LISTENING. THIS IS DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMBDUBMDUBMDUBMDUBMDUB DBUM.
DUMB.
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Seriously, if there's an Overlord, it could be any alignment. If there's a Kerrigan, Infested or not, it could be
say it with me
ANY ALIGNMENT
you guys are going off the confirmation bias that I and Iecerint have information that wincons can change DESPITE THE FACT that alignment changing in regards to -cult-
There can be alignment changing WITHOUT cult.
iogfewjtiowejtiwaow!~
say it with me
ANY ALIGNMENT
you guys are going off the confirmation bias that I and Iecerint have information that wincons can change DESPITE THE FACT that alignment changing in regards to -cult-
has not been confirmed or hinted to at all
.There can be alignment changing WITHOUT cult.
iogfewjtiowejtiwaow!~
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You know what IS possible? A recruiting NON-CULT third party (like a 1-shot recruiting survivor/SK or something). I can SEE that happening. We don't have enough NK information to confirm or deny that at the moment, but it's a possibility and FUNNILY ENOUGH
FUNNILY ENOUGH
NO ONE HAS BROUGHT THAT UP.
But WHY WOULD THAT PERSON BE VIFAM, CLAIMING AN OBVZERG NAME
CHRIST PEOPLE YOU MJADE ME DO STARCRAFT RESERARCH FOR THIS.
If MENGSK HAD A FAKECLAIM, THEN WHY WOULD ANYONE
even someone as inexperienced as vifam
TAKE THAT CHANCE AND RISK THEIR WINCON OVER A STUPID DECISION
FLSKOPGSKOP
FUNNILY ENOUGH
NO ONE HAS BROUGHT THAT UP.
But WHY WOULD THAT PERSON BE VIFAM, CLAIMING AN OBVZERG NAME
CHRIST PEOPLE YOU MJADE ME DO STARCRAFT RESERARCH FOR THIS.
If MENGSK HAD A FAKECLAIM, THEN WHY WOULD ANYONE
even someone as inexperienced as vifam
TAKE THAT CHANCE AND RISK THEIR WINCON OVER A STUPID DECISION
FLSKOPGSKOP
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I doubt Kerrigan is town, unless she became town last night, and she probably would've claimed it if that'd happened. If I'm mistaken: TOWN LIARS ARE BAD.
Actually, I've alluded to that several times.
DH wrote:You know what IS possible? A recruiting NON-CULT third party (like a 1-shot recruiting survivor/SK or something). I can SEE that happening. We don't have enough NK information to confirm or deny that at the moment, but it's a possibility and FUNNILY ENOUGH
FUNNILY ENOUGH
NO ONE HAS BROUGHT THAT UP.
Actually, I've alluded to that several times.
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BUT HERE
I'LL JOIN YOU FOR THE STUPID PARTY AND EAT DUMB CAKE AND DRINK DERP TEA
I don't CARE who it is
And if Morthas does not die either today or tomorrow I am goinng to just jfiogwajfiwjaiofaiejgehevrguihdghihiulghdi
and you do NOT want me to oipafjpoasjfoisajfisaugdiuhiighiudgifghidfs.
Preview edit: Have you? Which posts? I probably missed them in a readthrough o_o
Alluding and stating are two different ballgames by the way, so I need to know.
UNVOTE, VOTE: VIFAM
I'LL JOIN YOU FOR THE STUPID PARTY AND EAT DUMB CAKE AND DRINK DERP TEA
I don't CARE who it is
as long as Morthas DIES
And if Morthas does not die either today or tomorrow I am goinng to just jfiogwajfiwjaiofaiejgehevrguihdghihiulghdi
and you do NOT want me to oipafjpoasjfoisajfisaugdiuhiighiudgifghidfs.
Preview edit: Have you? Which posts? I probably missed them in a readthrough o_o
Alluding and stating are two different ballgames by the way, so I need to know.
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I have not specifically argued SURVIVOR OR SK, but I've argued 3rd party recruiting role.
The basis for this is that the Zerg in general and Kerrigan in particular can infest or hybridize other organisms in-universe AND we know that wincon modulation can happen AND I agree with your point about the size of this game AND Kerrigan had BETTER be in a Starcraft-themed game.
The basis for this is that the Zerg in general and Kerrigan in particular can infest or hybridize other organisms in-universe AND we know that wincon modulation can happen AND I agree with your point about the size of this game AND Kerrigan had BETTER be in a Starcraft-themed game.