Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[Flavour Analysis]

Oh also, I agree with my other head that we should hear from Spyrex before we end the Day; what does it hurt anyone to hold off on a lynch until one more person speaks when the thread JUST opened and we have until October 8th for deadline? Trying to shut down convo without Spyrex's input is not okay.

[Juls]

That's right. It was a 1-shot claim. Now I remember why I was ok with that part

[Juls]

Oh also, I agree with my other head that we should hear from Spyrex before we end the Day; what does it hurt anyone to hold off on a lynch until one more person speaks when the thread JUST opened and we have until October 8th for deadline? Trying to shut down convo without Spyrex's input is not okay.

I'm just a little over this game. We can wait but it isn't really that important to hear from spy.

[Flavour Analysis]

You mean it isn't that important to rush the day.

[Juls]

No I mean what I said.

[Flavour Analysis]

I am not going to respond point-by-point. I will just say two things:

1.)

You are claiming jmurph3 is both "confirmed Town" while also saying you were "given no information regarding her alignment." You can't even keep your story straight.

2.)

You are acting like you couldn't have possibly talked with chkflip about the game during the game. Last I checked, the roles in this game were sent on a Wednesday, and the Mod did not start the game until "20ish" players had confirmed their roles, the following Thursday. So I suspect you would have time to talk during that time period.

Additionally, regardless of whether scum have Daytalk or not in "other games" has no bearing on whether scum have daytalk in

this

game: after all, the Aliens apparently

do

have the ability to daytalk, and so this game could easily be an exception.

Question, why didn't you respond point by point? I would like that please.

[Flavour Analysis]

Jmurph is confirmed Bullzeye to us. That is all.

[petroleumjelly]

Because I don't like clutter. I get right to the point.

You have lied multiple times about this game, and now it looks like you can't even be straight on whether jmurph3 is "confirmed town" or not. Everything you have claimed in this game has been convenient and has only unfolded as the situation warrants. You breadcrumb Cop, you claim 1-Shot Vig when you think you've been caught, you change to JOAT after you realize people will start questioning why there is a 1-Shot Vig in a game with a

three player Vigilante team

, you just

happen

to roleblock the player who

does

claim Vigilante, and then you "protect" a player who you can't even decide whether they are confirmed Town or not.

Everything -- and I mean

everything

-- about your play points to scum. The

only

thing that has kept me off of you for this long is the fact that you have claimed Woody. But at this point, I am throwing claims to the wind and I am getting straight to hunting scum. And I think you are scum, Woody claim be damned.

[Flavour Analysis]

I am not going to respond point-by-point. I will just say two things:

1.)

You are claiming jmurph3 is both "confirmed Town" while also saying you were "given no information regarding her alignment." You can't even keep your story straight.

2.)

You are acting like you couldn't have possibly talked with chkflip about the game during the game. Last I checked, the roles in this game were sent on a Wednesday, and the Mod did not start the game until "20ish" players had confirmed their roles, the following Thursday. So I suspect you would have time to talk during that time period.

Additionally, regardless of whether scum have Daytalk or not in "other games" has no bearing on whether scum have daytalk in

this

game: after all, the Aliens apparently

do

have the ability to daytalk, and so this game could easily be an exception.

1) I'm taking a mod confirmed Bullseye that neighborizes only Woody or Jessie to be a pretty legit nameclaim/role so that's a hell of a lot confirmed than anyone else in this game and that's good enough for me *Except for the aliens who are mod-confirmed not town as of #2295*

2) I'm pretty sure that's breaking the rules...? I know on the site I normally play on once roles go out, whether everyone is confirmed or not there is NO private communication unless you are allowed it. I don't know if that's the case here but basically what you are saying we would have to do to have already had a scum convo with chkflip is cheating, and you are soooo reaching. If you think we are scum, then have the scum aliens *sadness that the aliens aren't town, I like them as characters a lot* vig us.

[Juls]

Don't play dumb. He is saying if you were scum together.

[Flavour Analysis]

No lie.

She is confirmed character, as we are to her.

My other head finds it to be a strong character tell.

Yeah Idc if we're vigged.

[Flavour Analysis]

Just cop Spy or Juls. I don't care if he's a mason.

[Flavour Analysis]

Because I don't like clutter. I get right to the point.

You have lied multiple times about this game, and now it looks like you can't even be straight on whether jmurph3 is "confirmed town" or not. Everything you have claimed in this game has been convenient and has only unfolded as the situation warrants. You breadcrumb Cop, you claim 1-Shot Vig when you think you've been caught, you change to JOAT after you realize people will start questioning why there is a 1-Shot Vig in a game with a

three player Vigilante team

, you just

happen

to roleblock the player who

does

claim Vigilante, and then you "protect" a player who you can't even decide whether they are confirmed Town or not.

Everything -- and I mean

everything

-- about your play points to scum. The

only

thing that has kept me off of you for this long is the fact that you have claimed Woody. But at this point, I am throwing claims to the wind and I am getting straight to hunting scum. And I think you are scum, Woody claim be damned.

My answer to you is that if you are SO fucking suspicious then just vig us, but then I really hope town has the good sense to lynch you toMorrow after our town flip. Also how was our breadcrumb convenient...? Our abilities were jailkeep, doc, and vig; we don't have a cop ability and we haven't claimed as such, which would have made a lot more sense if we were scum formulating a JoaT claim like you say. And your thing about jmurph is being blown way out of proportion, she's not mod-confirmed but she damn well might as well be, Bullseye neighborizor is a freaking legit claim and she's been very open with us about reads, I trust her to be town.

[Flavour Analysis]

Don't play dumb. He is saying if you were scum together.

What is this in reference to?

[Flavour Analysis]

No lynch Chkflip or Juls. : D

[Flavour Analysis]

No lynch Chkflip or Juls. : D

I'm still standing by keeping pj in mind for a lynch to because his case on us is uber opportunistic and reaching.

[Juls]

Don't play dumb. He is saying if you were scum together.

What is this in reference to?

#2 in the post right above it

[Flavour Analysis]

No, PJ just gets distracted by lies. I don't think he focuses on the right things, but I wouldn't think of him as a high priority suspect.

[Flavour Analysis]

*But I respect that.

[petroleumjelly]

1.)

FlavourAnalysis is acting like she doesn't know what being scum on

this

site entails. As Juls said, this is just plain playing dumb. I don't think I've ever seen a game where scum were somehow "disallowed" from talking to each before a game started.

And most importantly, FlavourAnalysis pretty much completely ignores the strong possibility that scum have Day talk. I suspect scum do; this is pretty much a tacit agreement.

2.)

FlavourAnalysis is now continually offering themselves up to be Vigged. What a surprise. Once somebody makes a case against them, they immediately go for the ultimate appeal -- maybe if they

act

like they want to get Vigged, they won't actually be Vigged. They've seriously dropped this comment like three times on this page alone. If they are really town, they should be pushing to lynch scum (supposedly me) over offering themselves to be Vigged. Just another example a scum mindset.

It's pretty clear they know they can't really make a "case" against me -- pretty much nobody

has

made a case against me all game since I replaced in, and I plan to keep it that way. So instead, FlavourAnalysis is just going for last minute pity and trying to bullshit their way through another day.

If anything, this conversation has only solidified my thinking that FlavourAnalysis is scum.

[petroleumjelly]

Oh, and ha.

I bet the reason FlavourAnalysis has called jmurph3 "confirmed Town" is because FlavourAnalysis

knows

jmurph3 is Town. Also, I fully suspect he is aiming for some reciprocity from jmurph3.

[petroleumjelly]

Oh, and by the way:

The Aliens

should not

tell us who they are going to kill. It's pretty obvious scum have a roleblocker (since RandomActs claimed to have not gotten a result), so letting the scum know who is going to be Vigged just tells scum how best to use their night powers.

I don't think the Aliens were going to tell us their target in the first place, but better out than in.

[Flavour Analysis]

1.)

FlavourAnalysis is acting like she doesn't know what being scum on

this

site entails. As Juls said, this is just plain playing dumb. I don't think I've ever seen a game where scum were somehow "disallowed" from talking to each before a game started.

And most importantly, FlavourAnalysis pretty much completely ignores the strong possibility that scum have Day talk. I suspect scum do; this is pretty much a tacit agreement.

2.)

FlavourAnalysis is now continually offering themselves up to be Vigged. What a surprise. Once somebody makes a case against them, they immediately go for the ultimate appeal -- maybe if they

act

like they want to get Vigged, they won't actually be Vigged. They've seriously dropped this comment like three times on this page alone. If they are really town, they should be pushing to lynch scum (supposedly me) over offering themselves to be Vigged. Just another example a scum mindset.

It's pretty clear they know they can't really make a "case" against me -- pretty much nobody

has

made a case against me all game since I replaced in, and I plan to keep it that way. So instead, FlavourAnalysis is just going for last minute pity and trying to bullshit their way through another day.

If anything, this conversation has only solidified my thinking that FlavourAnalysis is scum.

1) I don't. I (July) have played ONE game here on my own that I replaced out of and ONE other on this hydra, and in all cases I've been town.

2) Good theory, very textbook scumhunting but I want vigged because I'm really tired of this game now, the fun part of having abilities is gone; from what I understand jmurph neigborizing Jessie means we won't be able to talk to her at Night anymore, so I'm not very invested in this game anymore and if it proves we are town and saves someone who still has their pr then I think it's a win-win.

[Flavour Analysis]

1.)

FlavourAnalysis is acting like she doesn't know what being scum on

this

site entails. As Juls said, this is just plain playing dumb. I don't think I've ever seen a game where scum were somehow "disallowed" from talking to each before a game started.

And most importantly, FlavourAnalysis pretty much completely ignores the strong possibility that scum have Day talk. I suspect scum do; this is pretty much a tacit agreement.

2.)

FlavourAnalysis is now continually offering themselves up to be Vigged. What a surprise. Once somebody makes a case against them, they immediately go for the ultimate appeal -- maybe if they

act

like they want to get Vigged, they won't actually be Vigged. They've seriously dropped this comment like three times on this page alone. If they are really town, they should be pushing to lynch scum (supposedly me) over offering themselves to be Vigged. Just another example a scum mindset.

It's pretty clear they know they can't really make a "case" against me -- pretty much nobody

has

made a case against me all game since I replaced in, and I plan to keep it that way. So instead, FlavourAnalysis is just going for last minute pity and trying to bullshit their way through another day.

If anything, this conversation has only solidified my thinking that FlavourAnalysis is scum.

I don't suspect they do. The only reason you do is because Rainbow and her alien buddies stated that they have day talk. Jmurph and I couldn't talk until the night, which was odd seeing as the neighbors had day talk.

I am not making an appeal. I only said it once, my other head stated it as well.

I suspect Juls more than you.

[Juls]

I love how everyone suspects me but not a single person is willing to put forth a case. Other than taking a power when I first came into the game without knowing the "plan", not one person can tell me why they think I am scum. I'm fine with getting lynched but I have put forth a lot of effort into this game. It would be nice to be shown the courtesy of a case.