Video Game UPick Mafia (Game Over)

[SpyreX]

Ohh yea I forgot about that from the before times

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p3508316

That's still awesome fyi

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And OOH LOOK, I'M NOT HAMMERING.

Because it's simply not worth doing anymore. I can't say with any amount of confidence that Fate is scum in this game, especially after this debacle. This wagon on me now is reeking of scum wanting this mislynch badly.

So if scum want this lynch, they can put the final vote on themselves, and make it more obvious for the town.

Also, WC is still scum, but more scum for trying to push the "IF LLD IS TOWN SHE'LL SELF-HAMMER" angle. It's clear scum false dichotomy. Either I'm scum and I don't hammer, or I'm town and I hammer, so I'm dead anyway.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Except I was calling you scummy before you were on my wagon. Nice try though.

Hot damn you're right how could I forget the scathing declaration of me being scummy that is:

Also, SpyreX's mediation of this can be interpreted as scummy if one of MoI/Fate flip scum.

Lets get it started in heeereeee

Uh huh, I've been on the fence with you for a while. I'm giving you every chance to prove your competency. Your recent vote isn't helping.

[SpyreX]

U SCUM CAUSE U VOTE 4 MEEE

Yep.

And don't paint WC's drugs as anything but drugs and you know it. There's a handful of scenarios where town would vote themselves. This is not nor was it ever one of them.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

U SCUM CAUSE U VOTE 4 MEEE

Yep.

And don't paint WC's drugs as anything but drugs and you know it. There's a handful of scenarios where town would vote themselves. This is not nor was it ever one of them.

TOWN VOTING THEMSELVES INSIDE A 1v1 TO

1) HELP KICKSTART A LAGGING GAME WITH LURKING SCUM BY CREATING A FLIP

2) SOLIDIFY THE LYNCH OF A TOP SCUM READ

3) NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS SHIT ANYMORE

Well, I'd say there's lots of town motivation.

[kuribo]

no, you see, for it to be motivation it would have to make sense from that perspective

[kdowns]

>...> <--- This is to my prod

[Lady Lambdadelta]

no, you see, for it to be motivation it would have to make sense from that perspective

Yes I know your view on it. Fortunately, I'm not the only one who thinks along these lines as town. You not agreeing with my philosophy is not a matter of contention.

P-Edit: See what I mean by "this game is stagnating"?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

BTW Where is Seraphim's promised content?

[kuribo]

1) HELP KICKSTART A LAGGING GAME WITH LURKING SCUM BY CREATING A FLIP

how do you know it's the scum that's lurking?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

1) HELP KICKSTART A LAGGING GAME WITH LURKING SCUM BY CREATING A FLIP

how do you know it's the scum that's lurking?

If it was Town lurking, the scum would be able to lead and bully people into mislynches much more frequently. Scum are taking advantage of an apathetic town.

[WrathChild]

And OOH LOOK, I'M NOT HAMMERING.

Because it's simply not worth doing anymore. I can't say with any amount of confidence that Fate is scum in this game, especially after this debacle. This wagon on me now is reeking of scum wanting this mislynch badly.

So if scum want this lynch, they can put the final vote on themselves, and make it more obvious for the town.

Also, WC is still scum, but more scum for trying to push the "IF LLD IS TOWN SHE'LL SELF-HAMMER" angle. It's clear scum false dichotomy. Either I'm scum and I don't hammer, or I'm town and I hammer, so I'm dead anyway.

Wrong and mudslinging again. I said you are scum for fake-self-hammering to get out of an 1v1. So why were you willing to die before, but not anymore? I full-heartedly believe you are scum and am calling you out for fake-hammering yourself. Lying and self-hammering are two things that scum do more than town. Did I ever say "If LLD is town she'll self-hammer"? HELL NO! Stop strawmanning me. Can we please add that to the list of scummy things LLD has done? Seriously, go back and read my ISO, where did I say that? I didn't, LLD is flailing scum with scumtell after scumtell. Seriously can some one please restate why in hell they think LLD is town?

[Kdub]

Day 3, Vote Count #18

MagnaofIllusion (0)

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Fate (0)

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WrathChild (0)

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hiplop (1)

- RayFrost

Lady Lambdadelta (5)

- WrathChild, Seraphim, kdowns, hiplop, SpyreX

RayFrost (0)

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Maxous (0)

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Seraphim (3)

- kuribo, Fate, Lady Lambdadelta

SpyreX (0)

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kuribo (0)

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kdowns (0)

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No Lynch (0)

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Not Voting (2)

- Maxous, MagnaofIllusion

11 votes available, 6 votes needed to lynch

Deadline is October 24, ~8 pm PDT

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'M flailing?

No, you're flailing for this mislynch.

And you DID say that if I was town, I'd self hammer. By assossiation, you imply that as scum I wouldn't!

FURTHER, YOU STATE IT AGAIN IN THE POST ABOVE.

"SO WHY WERE YOU WILLING TO DIE BEFORE BUT NOT ANYMORE"

IMPLYING THAT I'M SCUM FOR CHANGING MY STANCE>

FURTHER< I EXPLAINED THAT I NO LONGER TRUST THE 1V1 WITH FATE.

YOU'RE JUST IGNORING MY POINTS AND DEFLECTING/STONEWALLING TO GET THIS LYNCH.

IT"S NOT HAPPENING.

[WrathChild]

I'M flailing?

No, you're flailing for this mislynch.

And you DID say that if I was town, I'd self hammer. By assossiation, you imply that as scum I wouldn't!

FURTHER, YOU STATE IT AGAIN IN THE POST ABOVE.

"SO WHY WERE YOU WILLING TO DIE BEFORE BUT NOT ANYMORE"

IMPLYING THAT I'M SCUM FOR CHANGING MY STANCE>

FURTHER< I EXPLAINED THAT I NO LONGER TRUST THE 1V1 WITH FATE.

YOU'RE JUST IGNORING MY POINTS AND DEFLECTING/STONEWALLING TO GET THIS LYNCH.

IT"S NOT HAPPENING.

Your points are a jumbled mess of garbly gook. Where did I say "If you are town you'd self-hammer?" Quote or it didn't happen.

Where did I say you were scum for changing your stance? Quote or it didn't happen.

[Fate]

I've compromised hammered LLD before and called her town right before she flipped, then I got mislynched.

Fuck that shit

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And OOH LOOK, I'M NOT HAMMERING.

Because it's simply not worth doing anymore. I can't say with any amount of confidence that Fate is scum in this game, especially after this debacle. This wagon on me now is reeking of scum wanting this mislynch badly.

So if scum want this lynch, they can put the final vote on themselves, and make it more obvious for the town.

Also, WC is still scum, but more scum for trying to push the "IF LLD IS TOWN SHE'LL SELF-HAMMER" angle. It's clear scum false dichotomy. Either I'm scum and I don't hammer, or I'm town and I hammer, so I'm dead anyway.

Wrong and mudslinging again. I said you are scum for fake-self-hammering to get out of an 1v1.

So why were you willing to die before, but not anymore?

I full-heartedly believe you are scum and am calling you out for fake-hammering yourself. Lying and self-hammering are two things that scum do more than town. Did I ever say "If LLD is town she'll self-hammer"? HELL NO! Stop strawmanning me. Can we please add that to the list of scummy things LLD has done? Seriously, go back and read my ISO, where did I say that? I didn't, LLD is flailing scum with scumtell after scumtell. Seriously can some one please restate why in hell they think LLD is town?

There's the changing stance one, let me find you the other.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

1v1 is retarded especially if it is all talk and chest thumping. I've focussed ZERO on the 1v1 because it's BS. I'm looking at the game not some stupid challenge "on your internet honor".

So now you believe that LLD really tried to hammer herself? I find it more likely that she tried to fake-hammer herself to get out of the 1v1. I have no intention of following a 1v1 chain lynch to the gallows. It's stupid and anti-town. If LLD flips scum, I'm not going to say Fate is 100% town and if LLD flips town I'm not going to say Fate is 100%. In fact there's a good chance that if LLD flips town, Fate is town as well and vice versa.

Now if LLD is really honor bound like a 1v1 challenge implies, she can go ahead and hammer herself for real this time.

Here is where you present the false Dichotomy.

[WrathChild]

And OOH LOOK, I'M NOT HAMMERING.

Because it's simply not worth doing anymore. I can't say with any amount of confidence that Fate is scum in this game, especially after this debacle. This wagon on me now is reeking of scum wanting this mislynch badly.

So if scum want this lynch, they can put the final vote on themselves, and make it more obvious for the town.

Also, WC is still scum, but more scum for trying to push the "IF LLD IS TOWN SHE'LL SELF-HAMMER" angle. It's clear scum false dichotomy. Either I'm scum and I don't hammer, or I'm town and I hammer, so I'm dead anyway.

Wrong and mudslinging again. I said you are scum for fake-self-hammering to get out of an 1v1.

So why were you willing to die before, but not anymore?

I full-heartedly believe you are scum and am calling you out for fake-hammering yourself. Lying and self-hammering are two things that scum do more than town. Did I ever say "If LLD is town she'll self-hammer"? HELL NO! Stop strawmanning me. Can we please add that to the list of scummy things LLD has done? Seriously, go back and read my ISO, where did I say that? I didn't, LLD is flailing scum with scumtell after scumtell. Seriously can some one please restate why in hell they think LLD is town?

There's the changing stance one, let me find you the other.

I asked you a question. I DID NOT SAY YOU ARE SCUM FOR CHANGING YOUR STANCE. I SAID YOU ARE SCUM FOR FAKE-HAMMERING YOURSELF. In my list of reasons to lynch you, is changing your stance on it?

[Maxous]

Fact:
A mod-provided miller fake claim to scum is about the stupidest thing ever because everyone lynches miller-claimers anyway. Why give scum a worse than vanilla fake-claim? It makes no sense.

It's not that stupid. Look at what you are doing now for example, towns don't always lynch millers, sometimes a miller claim means the town does'nt lynch the player at all.
It particulary makes sense to give scum a miller claim just in case if the wording is going to be different than normal.
And if scum got a fakeclaim they don't have to use it.

7. For someone who claims to be as adept at this game as LLD, it's pretty far fetched to even believe she mistakenly thought she was at L-1, when she was at L-2. Kdubs posts vote counts often and with perfect accuracy, there is no way I'm buying LLD tried to hammer and failed. She lied about it. SCUM POINTS.

This is a better worded way of what I was trying to say.
The only possible explanation is below:

If you were town and had offered per your death that your TOP SCUMREAD BE LYNCHED in a 1v1, would you give a fuck about reading the thread?

But it's a stretch.
It is hard to beleive she missed that unvote.

in fact, fate's effectively set up into a position where if LLD flips town, you can claim he's scum for the 1v1 and for him pushing her wagon. if she flips scum, you can claim he's scum for focusing the attention on sera

Was anyone realistically gonna push fate as scum lynch if LLD flips town or MOI as scum lynch if Fate flips town?

1) HELP KICKSTART A LAGGING GAME WITH LURKING SCUM BY CREATING A FLIP

You're saying you tried to self-hammer so the town would catch the lurking scum?
At the time you were saying Fate was scum(who was'nt lurking) and WC was scum(who was'nt lurking)

[WrathChild]

1v1 is retarded especially if it is all talk and chest thumping. I've focussed ZERO on the 1v1 because it's BS. I'm looking at the game not some stupid challenge "on your internet honor".

So now you believe that LLD really tried to hammer herself? I find it more likely that she tried to fake-hammer herself to get out of the 1v1. I have no intention of following a 1v1 chain lynch to the gallows. It's stupid and anti-town. If LLD flips scum, I'm not going to say Fate is 100% town and if LLD flips town I'm not going to say Fate is 100%. In fact there's a good chance that if LLD flips town, Fate is town as well and vice versa.

Now if LLD is really honor bound like a 1v1 challenge implies, she can go ahead and hammer herself for real this time.

Here is where you present the false Dichotomy.

=Calling you out on Bullshit about self-hammering and 1v1. Not false dichotomy. Mainly I point out that you were all talk. I have no clue where you get that I'm saying or have ever said that if you were town you'd hammer yourself. I present every option there and basically say that the 1v1 crap is stupid.

[kuribo]

Was anyone realistically gonna push fate as scum lynch if LLD flips town or MOI as scum lynch if Fate flips town?

entirely possible

[Fate]

HOW ABOUT

NO ONE FUCKING HAMMERS TOWN

UNTIL A CERTAIN FUCKING GAME ENDS

SO WE CAN ALL TALK ABOUT WHAT A FUCKING SCUMBAG SERA IS

AND HOW MORE FUCKING PEOPLE

SHOULD LISTEN TO ME

WHEN I GIVE A FUCK

[WrathChild]

So I can see you saying Sera is scummy, but I see no reason why this makes LLD any less scummy.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

HOW ABOUT

NO ONE FUCKING HAMMERS TOWN

UNTIL A CERTAIN FUCKING GAME ENDS

SO WE CAN ALL TALK ABOUT WHAT A FUCKING SCUMBAG SERA IS

AND HOW MORE FUCKING PEOPLE

SHOULD LISTEN TO ME

WHEN I GIVE A FUCK

That game ended.

The honor is yours.