Animal Rescue: petsPick (Game Over!)

[Vi]

I have a big interview today guys.

Good luck!

[Vi]

That being said,

unvote, vote: Llama

I'm gonna try this a different way, help me lynch this scumbag DDD...then I'll know you're town.

That being said... what... the...?

[VP Baltar]

Thanks! I need it! I hate interviews.

Let's not get into the second part, but rather, lynch Llama.

[jasonT1981]

I lost my post but I have to say that there is something fishy going on with Jason, LLamarble, and glowball. Whenever I read their love triangle I feel like at least one person, if not tow, are operating on more information than a town member should have at this point.

The whole Jason pushing glowball while voting Llamarble looks to me like he is more convinced that the person he isn't voting is scum which doesn't work with where his vote actually is

. Also, spilling over from my suspicions yesterday:

VOTE: Jason

I also think VPB is town.

See, thats the issue.... I can have more than one scum read I can push, but only have one vote.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

More later, but DDDP's notion that my play being "normal" makes it scummy is, uh...

Well I guess, what exactly do you mean by normal?

Normal - conforming to the standard or the common type. When I'm mafia all I want to do is fade into the background of the game and the best way to do that is to play mafia by the book. Sure, everyone plays there own game but I'd suggest that's a pretty common behavior.

I'm gonna try this a different way, help me lynch this scumbag DDD...then I'll know you're town.

And you claim to know me.

[Untrod Tripod]

So you're claiming that I'm scummy because I'm not doing anything scummy.

Do you realize how illogical that statement is?

[zoraster]

Spoiler: spoiler

Day 2

Amrun ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Cogito Ergo Sum ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Ghostlin ( 2 )

Quilford,

Kublai Khan,

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(L - 6 )

glowball ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

JasonT1981 ( 4 )

glowball,

Debonair Danny DiPietro,

Amrun,

xvart,

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(L - 4 )

Kublai Khan ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Llamarble ( 3 )

JasonT1981,

Ghostlin,

VP Baltar,

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(L - 5 )

Quilford ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Sotty7 ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Untrod Tripod ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

Vi ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

VP Baltar ( 4 )

Llamarble,

Vi,

Cogito Ergo Sum,

Sotty7,

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(L - 4 )

xvart ( 0 )

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(L - 8 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 2 )

Untrod Tripod, Roxi,

Total Votes ( 15 )

Needed to Lynch [ 8 ]

Deadline: Nov. 28th at 20:00 EST

[Ghostlin]

Amrun, chainsawing for llamarble since 2011. Trademark.

Chainsaws are useless without flips.

[Ghostlin]

Okay but I don't get your point. Weren't you the one talking about LewSK yesterday? How would the scum have known there was an SK on day one? If we are to believe Quilford's result, which I do, a four man scum team seems reasonable in a 16 player game give or take powers.

Yes and no. I wasn't the one to incept the idea of LewSK, but I was one of the proponents that if Lew was an SK, even a modified one, we should kill him. Sotty, let me answer your question with a question: what do you believe is the most likely third party role in this game, plus or minus powers?

[Amrun]

LLamarble, please expand your read on Vi.

[Untrod Tripod]

can we talk more about DDDP's "not being scummy is scummy" idea? Because it seems like that's mildly important to note.

[Amrun]

I'd like to hear his response to you first.

It's pretty weak, but DDD clearly hasn't really sunk his teeth into this game yet. I'm not sure that's a tell either way.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand, scum have a vested interest in appearing town; while town have the truth of their alignment allowing them to be more unconventional. In my opinion that's the way the site meta WIFOM wheel is turned and hence I have town reads on Amrun and CES despite not thinking much of their play in this game and have unsubstantiated issues with the players I mentioned before.

[Untrod Tripod]

You realize that citing WIFOM as a reason for your scum reads is bad, right?

[glowball]

I think I get what DDD is getting at and I can't say I disagree completely. When I let my mind wander I look into WIFOM, but never as the main reason for someone being scum. I also think it's a bit early, tbh.

[Llamarble]

I like that Vi has been pushy and forthright and stuff. There are also a few specific things I've mentioned that I liked.
No "OH MAN UNFAKEABLE" things yet though, hence leaning town but not game-staking.
I'd like to see more attempts to look at the game as a whole from him (and everyone really), though I guess that's hard in a large.
Basically trying to figure out who is scum with whom is a good thing to be doing.
Right now I think both VP and Xvart are scum and feel pretty darn good about that.
KK I just reread and am adding to the 'these guys might be scum' pile.
Sotty is somewhere between Vi and KK.
Amrun and Glowball are my strongest townreads.

[Sotty7]

Sotty, let me answer your question with a question: what do you believe is the most likely third party role in this game, plus or minus powers?

I think I have answered this already, a serial killer. Just because that's the most common/coolest 3rd party role.

[Amrun]

But Llamarble, you said something overnight moved you from towntown to murky on Vi.

Now she's back to town?

[Llamarble]

Yup.
So far as I can remember I haven't found Vi scummier than 'leaning town' anywhere along the path, so that's actually been one of my stabler reads.
My degree of confidence has just varied.

[Amrun]

murky grey doesn't say "leaning town" to me

[Force of Nature]

Murky can be null leaning either way and mostly means uncertainty.

[Llamarble]

Murky can be null leaning either way and mostly means uncertainty.

[Llamarble]

Basically at the end of D1 Vi hadn't done a whole lot other than push the Lewarcher wagon, and Lewarcher had flipped town. -> reduced confidence of Vitown.

[Untrod Tripod]

Um. Who is that?

[Untrod Tripod]

Disregard that I suck cocks.

But the point is I think it's incredibly bad to say that people who aren't doing anything scummy are scummy by virtue of the fact that they're not doing anything scummy.