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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:16 am

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"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"

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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:32 pm

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^ Nice :P

Whoa, when did redFF get into L-1?
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:57 pm

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Pine wrote:Image


I know right?
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:24 pm

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Internet Stranger wrote:Looking at the vote count, Jason still seems like a strong bet to be scum.

Normally I would chastise Courk for that shitty off-vote, but I see shes in V/LA
Ravel needs some more substance, that vote is a stale RVS vote.


Klazam, whats your opinion on Jason? If you think Xeras is scum, whats his motivation? Is he defending a scum partner or a townie for town cred?

IS: What do i think of jason? I'm ISOing everyonr now.

Hmm. I'm ambivalent on Jason. Keep in mind Smallpeople is on my scumlist, so with his absolutely shitty vote on Jason, I'd think its impossible the two is linked. Honestly, I do not get your case on Jason. It seemed to me that he's doing stuffs at least, unlike some people that are small...

I think Xeras is scum because of that 180 on his postion related to redFF. I'm not sure what you mean by "defending" I only see Xeras just hopping on wagon with really poor justification, which makes me think he's scum that wants to get redFF lynched. Based on that, I'd tentatively say redFF is town.

Smallpeople.... REALLY? RED got to L-1 when Xeras voted Red. Thats when.

Here's where i stand right now on everyone.

SCUM (PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE LYNCHED):
Smallpeople,
Xeras

Slightly scummy, but not scummy enough:
jdm (Seems a bit like a weathervane, and defense of jason strikes me as a bit odd, but this can attributed to his apparent newbness. I also got an early impression of him being kinda town (my post 130))

People who need to post more:
Courk,
Yates,
Zeek (he havent posted in 2 days)

No idea (Hard to read):
Ravel,
Internet Stranger,
Pine,
Jason

Town (Tentative):
RedFF (Depends on alignment of Xeras- if Xeras flips scum, hes conftown, if not, he drops down to the null),
RBT (I believe the millerclaim personally- It's what i would do (and I did) in RBT's shoes, really.)
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:28 pm

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-_-

I meant that for emphasis. I do think that Xeras probably is scum, but I also believe that jason is scum. To prevent wagonning, I'm just keeping my vote on jason.
If you prefer, I can
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:51 pm

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Why would you want to "prevent wagoning"? IF you think Xeras is scum, then you should be voting Xeras. your statement looks to me like you're not voting Xeras because you're scared to draw notice for "wagoning".
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:07 pm

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Here's my problem: I won't know if Pine is Town or Scum until he flips on one of the two games I'm currently playing with him. He's being nice and defending me here but much harder on me in the other game. It's possible he is warming up to my paying style or possible he is Town in one game and scum in another. I just don't know which.

@JDM - THAT is what post 242 was all about. I have my read so I can carry on.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:08 pm

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smallpeoples343 wrote:-_-

I meant that for emphasis. I do think that Xeras probably is scum, but I also believe that jason is scum. To prevent wagonning, I'm just keeping my vote on jason.
If you prefer, I can
FoS: Xeras

Found the third scumbuddy!

Good game, Town. Mods, you can start writing our "Best Town" Scummy nom now. I'll start on the acceptance speech.

PE: Yates, I have a very good reason for defending you. It is completely independent of meta.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:21 pm

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Because there is obviously more than one scum. If not voting Xeras makes you guys think that I'm scum, that's rather insane.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:27 pm

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Calling someone scum, someone who there's a lot of support for a lynch, and then voting for someone completely different, for whom there is no support, if scummy. You are very clearly trying to cheerlead the proposed Xeras wagon without putting effort into lynching your buddy. Coupled with the implicit "Let's slow down the Red lynch" association from 276, I'm read to call it as Red/Xeras/smallpeople, or at least Xeras/smallpeople.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:47 pm

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UNVOTE: jason, VOTE: Xeras. Happy?

I don't view red as scum, I see him as more town.
IS is likely town in my eyes.
jason and Xeras could be scum.
Yates seems in-between null and scum. Same for jdm
Null-town would include Pine and Klazam.
Null for all the lurkers and pretty much everyone else.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:12 pm

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Sorry i haven't posted. I honestly didn't know how To interject my view of the red/rbt miller debate, so I kind of froze. This coupled with skyrim.

I have been keeping up with the reading, but this game moves to fast I will have to reread. But one thing I did notice was how big of a change xeras did make. I am satisfied with where my vote is until answers are had (or at least until i reread).

I think it is safe to say that I have pine and IS as town for now. The miller claim i think should be pocketed for a later day, no sense in policy lynching based off of a first post role claim.

I also have yates as slight town, as for the rest I think i will need to reread to look at.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:37 pm

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@klazam you wouldn't nameclaim if you were miller?
we got purple actavis i thought it was a drought!
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:39 pm

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jdm998 wrote:Fine

VOTE: RedFF

He's seemed scummy all game but not enough to vote. At this point though he seems more likely to be mafia than anybody else.

how am i scummy


jdm998 wrote:
redFF wrote:if you're gonna claim miller you might as well claim full role too.

quickly now


This.

you agreed with me about the milelr claim but once a wagon came around you HOPPED RIGHT ON
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:59 pm

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redFF wrote:@klazam you wouldn't nameclaim if you were miller?



To be honest, I wouldnt.

Fullclaiming leaves no way for me to use my knowledge for any purpose. If i claim miller and withhold my name, i open up a few possibilities for usage of information for good.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:20 pm

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Given that it's a theme game, it's also possible that RBT has other powers in addition to being a Miller, and might not want to tip his hand by nameclaiming.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:33 pm

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Pine wrote:Given that it's a theme game, it's also possible that RBT has other powers in addition to being a Miller, and might not want to tip his hand by nameclaiming.

Entirely WIFOM. This post also definitely takes you off my town list.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:57 pm

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redFF wrote:
jdm998 wrote:Fine

VOTE: RedFF

He's seemed scummy all game but not enough to vote. At this point though he seems more likely to be mafia than anybody else.

how am i scummy


jdm998 wrote:
redFF wrote:if you're gonna claim miller you might as well claim full role too.

quickly now


This.

you agreed with me about the milelr claim but once a wagon came around you HOPPED RIGHT ON


You were overly aggressive to him. I agreed they might as well claim full role, but you went on to vote to lynch and say RBT is scum. I agreed MIGHT as well, not "they have to or get lynched".
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:04 pm

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Riceballtail wrote:
Pine wrote:Given that it's a theme game, it's also possible that RBT has other powers in addition to being a Miller, and might not want to tip his hand by nameclaiming.

Entirely WIFOM. This post also definitely takes you off my town list.

How in the hell is that WIFOM? It's another reason why pursuing the nameclaim insistence is bad, and nothing more. I'm not screwing with anyone's motives, and I'm not posing a false scenario. If anything, it screws with scum, as where they once had a cut-and-dry roleclaim out of you and could mostly ignore you when PR-hunting, they now have to consider you again, which makes their choices more difficult.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:36 am

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redFF wrote:@klazam you wouldn't nameclaim if you were miller?


I don't think name claims are such a good idea so early. Simply because it gives scum less room on fake claims. If they know a bunch of claimed names, they know who not to claim so as to be more believed.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:37 am

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Riceballtail wrote:
Pine wrote:Given that it's a theme game, it's also possible that RBT has other powers in addition to being a Miller, and might not want to tip his hand by nameclaiming.

Entirely WIFOM.

WIFOM? [Inconceivable!] You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. :lol:

That is an actual possibility that exists and a very good reason for not wanting a name claim to go along with a Miller claim. That is ancillary to being able to potentially catch someone in a fake role claim but it is a possibility nonetheless.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:31 am

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Yates wrote:
Riceballtail wrote:
Pine wrote:Given that it's a theme game, it's also possible that RBT has other powers in addition to being a Miller, and might not want to tip his hand by nameclaiming.

Entirely WIFOM.

WIFOM? [Inconceivable!] You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. :lol:

That is an actual possibility that exists and a very good reason for not wanting a name claim to go along with a Miller claim. That is ancillary to being able to potentially catch someone in a fake role claim but it is a possibility nonetheless.


WIFOM basically means being able to act town if scum very well by taking how others view your actions into account, no?

So yeah, we've pretty much got this sorted I guess, just need some coordination. Pine probs gets the MVP trophy at the end of this or something.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:38 am

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Ghostbusters Votecount III

jasonT1981
(L-6)
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Internet Stranger

Xeras
(L-3)
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Zeek, Klazam, Ravel, smallpeoples343

Courk
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Zeek
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Yates
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smallpeoples343
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Internet Stranger
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Riceballtail
(L-6)
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redFF

Ravel
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Pine

redFF
(L-1)
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Pine, Riceballtail, Yates, jasonT1981, jdm998, Xeras

jdm998
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Courk

Klazam


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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:46 am

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WIFOM is circular logic [taken from the Princess Bride ]. Pine's argument is not circular in reasoning and, therefore, not WIFOM.

If RBT thinks Pine is scummy due to WIFOM, he should at least be guilty of WIFOM. Currently, he is not. I thought it was important to make that clear as those sorts of accusations should be substantive in nature.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:46 am

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jdm998 wrote:
Yates wrote:
Riceballtail wrote:
Pine wrote:Given that it's a theme game, it's also possible that RBT has other powers in addition to being a Miller, and might not want to tip his hand by nameclaiming.

Entirely WIFOM.

WIFOM? [Inconceivable!] You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. :lol:

That is an actual possibility that exists and a very good reason for not wanting a name claim to go along with a Miller claim. That is ancillary to being able to potentially catch someone in a fake role claim but it is a possibility nonetheless.


WIFOM basically means being able to act town if scum very well by taking how others view your actions into account, no?

So yeah, we've pretty much got this sorted I guess, just need some coordination. Pine probs gets the MVP trophy at the end of this or something.


this is the dumbest post i've ever seen in a fucking mafia game. the first line makes no sense and the second part makes less sense than no sense. I didn't know that was possible. TIL
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