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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:23 pm

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we got purple actavis i thought it was a drought!
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:52 pm

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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:40 am

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There are three things I know:

1. Klazam is Town. He's my new Pine, basically. If I were a Dr. or BG, I'd have his back.
2. IS is Town. He is like the bristly neighbor next door with the nice lawn; you don't know if you like him but he's good for the neighborhood.
3. One of Smallpeople OR Jason is Town and the other is scum. I have a much better read/case on SP being Town so I'm fairly sure Jason is Town by POE. That's why my vote stands on Jason.

Some things I question:

1. RBT's Miller claim. I want to KNOW that RBT is obvTown so we can start ruling suspects out. She hasn't been doing a good job of leading, though, like I would want from the one "known good." I'm also really disappointed in her reads. The current RBT vs. redFF deal feels disingenuous. Either she's trying to fake bus, or RBT just doesn't like redFF but can't build a case on him.
2. redFF's alignment. Every time I start thinking he might be Town he says or does something that is either scummy or annoying. He's like the Boy Scout down the street that you aren't sure about and think might egg your house on Halloween. In any case, you'll never let him date your daughter.
3. WTF is up with Courk? Seriously?

I'm currently leaning towards Jason, jdm/Zeek, and possibly RBT as our scum team. My opinion on RBT could change with better obvTown posting. I don't feel great about my jdm or Zeek reads yet as they are more POE reads. The Jason lynch feels good. If he flips Town, SP is scum and I'll just shut up and listen to Klazam and IS because I would clearly have a poor read on this entire game.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:50 am

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I don't listen to Red anymore, all he does is be a victom and act all butthurt.
RBT is useless, especially as a miller.

Yates, you're not helping by annointing town. Klazam could be scum like you or anyone else.

Just focus on one scum at a time and that scum is Jason.

Speaking of which, does Jason not have anything to say?
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:00 am

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Sorry, will have something to say later. Was hoping to catch up last night but pulled a muscle in my back working out. Will have something up tonight.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:00 pm

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I'm here yates, and reading. But at the moment I can only read on my phone while getting ready for work. Making long Substantial posts with reviewing are quite hard on a phone. From the last page I'm adding redff to my ' take a close look at k list' it seems he's suddenly re-Picked up yesterday's argument, but I'm not sure quite why, and want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:28 pm

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jdm998 wrote:


Anyway, I'd like an explanation from Jason about him jumping on the wagon so quick. I don't see SP as scummy enough for people to be trying to lynch him without discussion, and I'd like to see Jason's reasoning.

VOTE: Jason


I don't really see it as jumping on the wagon quickly, I was the 2nd vote on it, then the votes piled on. If anything Zeek and Rice were the ones that jumped quickly on the wagon with votes 3 and 4 respectivly. Given I alreasy had suspicion of Small D1 for his jump on me, without really believing in it, yea... my vote was justified.

redFF wrote:
jdm998 wrote:
I have RBT as scum right now

VOTE: Jason

lol


Don't like how RedFF selectivly quotes here to make jdm look bad.

Yates wrote:Well, Jason and Zeek aren't looking good to me right now. I can't make much of a case against them yet and won't get to it tonight [watching the friggin Giants game then to bed for early wake up].


Don't like this... They are scummy but I cant make a case? ummm what??

Internet Stranger wrote:Oh Jason is definitely scum.

On day 1 he has been playing the middle all along. Think back about Jason, has he done anything with any semblance of conviction? Do you recall any strong, opinionated points that he has made? Do you recall any solid contributions or suspicions from him?

The answer is no. The reason is because Jason is scum trying to play centrist, tread water in the middle and hope to look invisible. His vote on Red reflects that fact. His vote on peoples reflect that fact. He is an opportunistic bandwagon jumper. Is it not odd that he has only joined whatever wagon was most popular at the time?

When asked what his reason for voting peoples, he ducked the question with a "I already stated my reasons" then performs a disappearing act. Im pretty sure that Jason is still scum.

Vote: Jason


Ummm no... I didn't take middle ground. I am sure I firmly stated reasons and stances. I didn't duck giving reasons, as you said... I already had given them. How was my vote on RedFF opertunistic WHEN IT WAS MY FIRST VOTE AND THE FIRST VOTE ON RED IN THE GAME?

to reply to this, quotes are broken.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p3603554

RedFF was the one pushign big time for name claim, IS also.

Have I missed anything asked of me? sorry, did this with a quick read through
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:29 pm

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I also didnt like how Ravel went from town points on me for pointing out L-2, to voting me when challanged on that.. seemed fabricated to me.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:18 pm

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My vote was definitely not because of IS' comments towards me.

Look at the timestamps between IS' (#431) post and mine (#432) and what I said in #432.

Internet Stranger wrote:Ravel, giving someone "town points" for obvious bullshit is ridiculous.

Ravel wrote:
Yates wrote:"For now" - see post 56 then post 171. I think that's why I'm not reading too much into the "for now" statement. It looks like that's just how he talks/plays.

Good point, I see effort in trying to verify people's cases on others. This part of Jason's case on smallpeoples is now at worst a null-tell. Understandably though, if smallpeoples flips scum, we'd look at you.

@Courk:
What are your thoughts on Day 1? You were gone for a lot of it and it would have been nice to have had your thoughts posted before the lynch.

I'm agreeing with IS about Jason right now. He also didn't answer my Day 1 request:
Jason wrote:Jason, you said that there is scum in the list of people who are pushing for a name claim. Can you provide us that list in order of scumminess? If you're gonna point out that you suspect scum is in there, why not just list them off?

I'd still like this by the way...

Also, can I have a clarification as to what a White Knight is?

431 - IS points out the "town points"
432 - Clearly, this was a continuation of my readthrough of the previous page. I referenced Yates, Courks and I also state here that I agree with IS' points from the previous page on Jason. There is a 1 minute timestamp difference between the two. I only saw IS' post when I hit Submit and I didn't even refer to IS' #431 until my next post.
433 - This is where I responded to IS' post #431.

So, it's pretty obvious that I already saw you as scummy before IS said anything towards me. You can go ahead and call me scummy, but not for the reason you stated.
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:52 pm

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redFF wrote:im done with this

Does this mean you're going to actually start scumhunting? Or should we just lynch you now?

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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:49 pm

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rbt is scum, internet stranger is scum, dunno about anyone else.
we got purple actavis i thought it was a drought!
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:43 am

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redFF wrote:rbt is scum, internet stranger is scum, dunno about anyone else.

While I agree that RBT has been scum-y, I'm not ready to label her as scum yet. What are your cases on RBT and IS?

Also, I had a
Vote: Jason
a while back. I think I was 2nd or 3rd on that wagon. Not sure why my vote wasn't reflected in the vote count but I believe he is at L-2.

Sorry that was my fault. I will update it in the vote count I'll be doing in a little while



What do you think about Jason, RBT? Klazam? Are you guys ready to put him at L-1 and threaten a hammer or is there a reason this is a bad wagon?
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:04 am

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OK, Fair enough. Ravel.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:09 am

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You guys know we can't bring a miller to lylo right? Rbt is obvious scum claiming miller and should be lynched
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:21 am

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So Red, what information would be provided to us if we lynch RBT now or even listen to anything you have to say at the moment? Are you deliberately trying to kill any momentum this town has?
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:21 am

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rbt is scum, so we'd have a scum lynch.
we got purple actavis i thought it was a drought!
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:21 am

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also i'd be pretty clear.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:34 am

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Red, why are you avoiding the discussions on Jason or Peoples?
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:44 am

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not avoiding, just pushing the better lynch.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:33 pm

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They're both good lynches. If you can show why RBT's a better lynch, that'd be cool.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:17 pm

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I'm back. I'm gonna reread, but I have to comment on this page- WTH is redFF doing?

And jdm's last post was odd too. Which 2 lynches are you looking for?
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:29 pm

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Lol. The SP wagon falls apart for building up too fast, then when Jason 's wagon starts, it builds up damn fast too, with totally different people on both wagons.

I feel Jason is town and IS is just tunneling excessively on Jason.

I'd be willing to lynch any of those two: Smallpeople and redFF. I'll vote RedFF because of how he posts- really bad for the town. He's doing no good whatsover. Trying to lynch somebody with no case other than "He could be scum fakeclaiming, DIESCUM", I dont like that.

vote: RedFF


If more people want to lynch Smallpeople, I'll go back to voting Smallpeople. If i was a doublevoter, I'd be voting both of them right now.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:18 pm

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Ghostbusters Mafia (Day 2) Votecount III


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jasonT1981, Zeek

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Riceballtail, Klazam

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Klazam

Not Voting
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:19 pm

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As I believe it is Thanksgiving today in the US I am not expecting much acitivity in the thread from them (Our US players) today.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:34 am

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rbt hasnt contributed a single independant thought all game. If she didnt claim miller we wouldn't let her be getting away with doing nothing, why are we now? Shes's the scummiest person in the game even without the miller claim.
we got purple actavis i thought it was a drought!
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