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There are three things I know:
1. Klazam is Town. He's my new Pine, basically. If I were a Dr. or BG, I'd have his back.
2. IS is Town. He is like the bristly neighbor next door with the nice lawn; you don't know if you like him but he's good for the neighborhood.
3. One of Smallpeople OR Jason is Town and the other is scum. I have a much better read/case on SP being Town so I'm fairly sure Jason is Town by POE. That's why my vote stands on Jason.
Some things I question:
1. RBT's Miller claim. I want to KNOW that RBT is obvTown so we can start ruling suspects out. She hasn't been doing a good job of leading, though, like I would want from the one "known good." I'm also really disappointed in her reads. The current RBT vs. redFF deal feels disingenuous. Either she's trying to fake bus, or RBT just doesn't like redFF but can't build a case on him.
2. redFF's alignment. Every time I start thinking he might be Town he says or does something that is either scummy or annoying. He's like the Boy Scout down the street that you aren't sure about and think might egg your house on Halloween. In any case, you'll never let him date your daughter.
3. WTF is up with Courk? Seriously?
I'm currently leaning towards Jason, jdm/Zeek, and possibly RBT as our scum team. My opinion on RBT could change with better obvTown posting. I don't feel great about my jdm or Zeek reads yet as they are more POE reads. The Jason lynch feels good. If he flips Town, SP is scum and I'll just shut up and listen to Klazam and IS because I would clearly have a poor read on this entire game.
1. Klazam is Town. He's my new Pine, basically. If I were a Dr. or BG, I'd have his back.
2. IS is Town. He is like the bristly neighbor next door with the nice lawn; you don't know if you like him but he's good for the neighborhood.
3. One of Smallpeople OR Jason is Town and the other is scum. I have a much better read/case on SP being Town so I'm fairly sure Jason is Town by POE. That's why my vote stands on Jason.
Some things I question:
1. RBT's Miller claim. I want to KNOW that RBT is obvTown so we can start ruling suspects out. She hasn't been doing a good job of leading, though, like I would want from the one "known good." I'm also really disappointed in her reads. The current RBT vs. redFF deal feels disingenuous. Either she's trying to fake bus, or RBT just doesn't like redFF but can't build a case on him.
2. redFF's alignment. Every time I start thinking he might be Town he says or does something that is either scummy or annoying. He's like the Boy Scout down the street that you aren't sure about and think might egg your house on Halloween. In any case, you'll never let him date your daughter.
3. WTF is up with Courk? Seriously?
I'm currently leaning towards Jason, jdm/Zeek, and possibly RBT as our scum team. My opinion on RBT could change with better obvTown posting. I don't feel great about my jdm or Zeek reads yet as they are more POE reads. The Jason lynch feels good. If he flips Town, SP is scum and I'll just shut up and listen to Klazam and IS because I would clearly have a poor read on this entire game.
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I don't listen to Red anymore, all he does is be a victom and act all butthurt.
RBT is useless, especially as a miller.
Yates, you're not helping by annointing town. Klazam could be scum like you or anyone else.
Just focus on one scum at a time and that scum is Jason.
Speaking of which, does Jason not have anything to say?
RBT is useless, especially as a miller.
Yates, you're not helping by annointing town. Klazam could be scum like you or anyone else.
Just focus on one scum at a time and that scum is Jason.
Speaking of which, does Jason not have anything to say?
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Elvis_Knits: "IS you are a sexist schmuck, for real"
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I'm here yates, and reading. But at the moment I can only read on my phone while getting ready for work. Making long Substantial posts with reviewing are quite hard on a phone. From the last page I'm adding redff to my ' take a close look at k list' it seems he's suddenly re-Picked up yesterday's argument, but I'm not sure quite why, and want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
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I don't really see it as jumping on the wagon quickly, I was the 2nd vote on it, then the votes piled on. If anything Zeek and Rice were the ones that jumped quickly on the wagon with votes 3 and 4 respectivly. Given I alreasy had suspicion of Small D1 for his jump on me, without really believing in it, yea... my vote was justified.
Don't like how RedFF selectivly quotes here to make jdm look bad.
Don't like this... They are scummy but I cant make a case? ummm what??
↑ Internet Stranger wrote:Oh Jason is definitely scum.
On day 1 he has been playing the middle all along. Think back about Jason, has he done anything with any semblance of conviction? Do you recall any strong, opinionated points that he has made? Do you recall any solid contributions or suspicions from him?
The answer is no. The reason is because Jason is scum trying to play centrist, tread water in the middle and hope to look invisible. His vote on Red reflects that fact. His vote on peoples reflect that fact. He is an opportunistic bandwagon jumper. Is it not odd that he has only joined whatever wagon was most popular at the time?
When asked what his reason for voting peoples, he ducked the question with a "I already stated my reasons" then performs a disappearing act. Im pretty sure that Jason is still scum.
Vote: Jason
Ummm no... I didn't take middle ground. I am sure I firmly stated reasons and stances. I didn't duck giving reasons, as you said... I already had given them. How was my vote on RedFF opertunistic WHEN IT WAS MY FIRST VOTE AND THE FIRST VOTE ON RED IN THE GAME?
to reply to this, quotes are broken.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p3603554
RedFF was the one pushign big time for name claim, IS also.
Have I missed anything asked of me? sorry, did this with a quick read through
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My vote was definitely not because of IS' comments towards me.
Look at the timestamps between IS' (#431) post and mine (#432) and what I said in #432.
431 - IS points out the "town points"
432 - Clearly, this was a continuation of my readthrough of the previous page. I referenced Yates, Courks and I also state here that I agree with IS' points from the previous page on Jason. There is a 1 minute timestamp difference between the two. I only saw IS' post when I hit Submit and I didn't even refer to IS' #431 until my next post.
433 - This is where I responded to IS' post #431.
So, it's pretty obvious that I already saw you as scummy before IS said anything towards me. You can go ahead and call me scummy, but not for the reason you stated.
Look at the timestamps between IS' (#431) post and mine (#432) and what I said in #432.
↑ Internet Stranger wrote:Ravel, giving someone "town points" for obvious bullshit is ridiculous.
↑ Ravel wrote:Yates wrote:"For now" - see post 56 then post 171. I think that's why I'm not reading too much into the "for now" statement. It looks like that's just how he talks/plays.
Good point, I see effort in trying to verify people's cases on others. This part of Jason's case on smallpeoples is now at worst a null-tell. Understandably though, if smallpeoples flips scum, we'd look at you.
@Courk:What are your thoughts on Day 1? You were gone for a lot of it and it would have been nice to have had your thoughts posted before the lynch.
I'm agreeing with IS about Jason right now. He also didn't answer my Day 1 request:
Jason wrote:Jason, you said that there is scum in the list of people who are pushing for a name claim. Can you provide us that list in order of scumminess? If you're gonna point out that you suspect scum is in there, why not just list them off?
I'd still like this by the way...
Also, can I have a clarification as to what a White Knight is?
431 - IS points out the "town points"
432 - Clearly, this was a continuation of my readthrough of the previous page. I referenced Yates, Courks and I also state here that I agree with IS' points from the previous page on Jason. There is a 1 minute timestamp difference between the two. I only saw IS' post when I hit Submit and I didn't even refer to IS' #431 until my next post.
433 - This is where I responded to IS' post #431.
So, it's pretty obvious that I already saw you as scummy before IS said anything towards me. You can go ahead and call me scummy, but not for the reason you stated.
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Does this mean you're going to actually start scumhunting? Or should we just lynch you now?
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While I agree that RBT has been scum-y, I'm not ready to label her as scum yet. What are your cases on RBT and IS?
Also, I had a
Vote: Jason
a while back. I think I was 2nd or 3rd on that wagon. Not sure why my vote wasn't reflected in the vote count but I believe he is at L-2.Sorry that was my fault. I will update it in the vote count I'll be doing in a little while
What do you think about Jason, RBT? Klazam? Are you guys ready to put him at L-1 and threaten a hammer or is there a reason this is a bad wagon?
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So Red, what information would be provided to us if we lynch RBT now or even listen to anything you have to say at the moment? Are you deliberately trying to kill any momentum this town has?
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Elvis_Knits: "IS you are a sexist schmuck, for real"
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Guttersnipe: "INTERNET STRANGER: You will never get away with the crap you pulled in this game again in any game I am in, ever"
Jora: "I don't care what you say. I don't care about scumhunting. Just die, alright!"
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Red, why are you avoiding the discussions on Jason or Peoples?
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Elvis_Knits: "IS you are a sexist schmuck, for real"
Guttersnipe: "INTERNET STRANGER: You will never get away with the crap you pulled in this game again in any game I am in, ever"
Jora: "I don't care what you say. I don't care about scumhunting. Just die, alright!"
Guttersnipe: "INTERNET STRANGER: You will never get away with the crap you pulled in this game again in any game I am in, ever"
Jora: "I don't care what you say. I don't care about scumhunting. Just die, alright!"
Lol. The SP wagon falls apart for building up too fast, then when Jason 's wagon starts, it builds up damn fast too, with totally different people on both wagons.
I feel Jason is town and IS is just tunneling excessively on Jason.
I'd be willing to lynch any of those two: Smallpeople and redFF. I'll vote RedFF because of how he posts- really bad for the town. He's doing no good whatsover. Trying to lynch somebody with no case other than "He could be scum fakeclaiming, DIESCUM", I dont like that.
If more people want to lynch Smallpeople, I'll go back to voting Smallpeople. If i was a doublevoter, I'd be voting both of them right now.
I feel Jason is town and IS is just tunneling excessively on Jason.
I'd be willing to lynch any of those two: Smallpeople and redFF. I'll vote RedFF because of how he posts- really bad for the town. He's doing no good whatsover. Trying to lynch somebody with no case other than "He could be scum fakeclaiming, DIESCUM", I dont like that.
vote: RedFF
If more people want to lynch Smallpeople, I'll go back to voting Smallpeople. If i was a doublevoter, I'd be voting both of them right now.
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Ghostbusters Mafia (Day 2) Votecount III
jasonT1981(L2)-jdm998, Ravel, Internet Stranger, Yates
Courk
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Riceballtail(L5)-redFF
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Day 2. With 11 alive, it takes 6 to Bust. Deadline is 19:00 GMT 11th December 2011.
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