What exactly happened?

Guy_Named_Riggs · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:41 pm

I don't know if this has already been discussed elsewhere, but what happened to the site exactly?

bird1111 · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:43 pm

PeregrineV · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:05 am

And this has maybe been answered, but is there any we the ordinary folk can do to help so that this doesn't happen again, or barring that, minimize the negative impact?

IceGuy · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:27 am

↑ PeregrineV wrote:And this has maybe been answered, but is there any we the ordinary folk can do to help so that this doesn't happen again, or barring that, minimize the negative impact?

Tell the admins to make off-site backups.

chamber · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:31 am

Donate more money.

IceGuy · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:33 am

If they manage money like they manage data, that's probably not a good idea.

chamber · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:38 am

Current hosting is provided for free.
Current hosting is waaaay better than we could hope to pay for with current income.
This would likely have had a significantly reduced chance of happening had we been using a reputable hosting service that we were paying for.

QED: Donate more.

IceGuy · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:43 am

Or, you could stay with the donated hosting arrangements, and use the donated money for external backups.

Did the donations just cover the cost of the domain name or is there some money left over?

chamber · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:47 am

I'm assuming you are just trolling at this point. It's working too so good job if it was your intent.

IceGuy · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:50 am

Well, my first answer was a troll post, in response to you putting the blame on the users for not donating more money.

The part about buying space somewhere else with the donations and setting up a cronjob to copy the database once in a while was a real suggestion, though.

Xalxe · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:00 pm

Hold up I'm srsly confused.

Our hosting space is free. Other hosting space costs money.

Our hosting space is better than other hosting space.

Soooooo...we should donate money so we get worse hosting?

bird1111 · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:06 pm

↑ Xalxe wrote:Hold up I'm srsly confused.

Our hosting space is free. Other hosting space costs money.

Our hosting space is better than other hosting space.

Soooooo...we should donate money so we get worse hosting?

My understanding is that our current, free hosting is better than any options that mith/whoever can afford on his/their own, but worse than some options that are too expensive to afford without help from donations.

Mr. Flay · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:24 pm

Pretty much.

PeregrineV · Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:01 pm

If the option of paid hosting that is better than the free hosting has been explored, how much are we talking here?

IceGuy · Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:40 pm

↑ IceGuy wrote:
The part about buying space somewhere else with the donations and setting up a cronjob to copy the database once in a while was a real suggestion, though.

AGar · Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:07 am

↑ PeregrineV wrote:If the option of paid hosting that is better than the free hosting has been explored, how much are we talking here?

This.

CooLDoG · Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:09 am

This doesn't warrant a completely new thread, and it is disaster related.

DO you guys remember the little icon that appeared up in the address bar next to the url? Well it appears to be gone now when on the forums. However, on "mafiascum.net" it is still there. Was it like this before the crash?

Xalxe · Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:18 am

It's called a favicon, and I assume it just hasn't been uploaded.

hohum · Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:02 am

↑ AGar wrote:
↑ PeregrineV wrote:If the option of paid hosting that is better than the free hosting has been explored, how much are we talking here?

This.

Hardware failures can and do occur. Even with more professional hosting situations. The data loss really was more of a perfect storm of hosting related issues and lack of a proper disaster recovery plan. The web servers and the SQL servers were actually back online again in less than 24 hours and had proper backups been made the site could have easily been brought online in that time frame. Aside from minor technical issues from time-to-time (resulting in a few minutes of reachability issues each) the site hasn't gone down due to hosting-related issues in a bit over two years. 24 hours of downtime in a two year life span really isn't too much to ask.

So yeah. The hosting provider is partially to blame here, but they have an excellent track record otherwsie.

Mr. Flay · Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:14 am

Agreed.

theamatuer · Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:55 pm

Who said we're blaming anybody?

animorpherv1 · Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:50 pm

↑ theamatuer wrote:Who said we're blaming anybody?

We're blaming everyone who asks for someone to blame.

UberNinja · Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:33 pm

It was/is obviously animorpher's fault.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:27 am

Is there someone who is actually making backups regularly now?

IceGuy · Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:17 am

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:Is there someone who is actually making backups regularly now?

I've asked the same question in the site admin/development forum yesterday, and haven't received an answer. So probably not.