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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:39 am

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Nero Cain wrote:I don't. It was an RVS based voteduntil I could get a chance to read the old stuff but why are you worried about it?

Iecerint does not think it appeared to be an RVS vote. Nero quoted interpretable content and issued an opinion about it.

Iecerint asked about Nero's stated opinion because Iecerint was curious to see how Nero would justify it.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:00 am

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:The above post would have been better served in personal notes.

In most cases you're right but when the majority of the game at this point is located off-thread, I figured this would be useful. Skip over it if you want. Makes no difference to me.

Iecerint wrote:1. It appears that the game is archived somewhere. Where is the archive?

2. WrathC, perhaps you could group your impressions into themes after you finish....

1. Should be linked in the first few posts.
2. Planned on it.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:14 am

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Iecerint wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:I don't. It was an RVS based voteduntil I could get a chance to read the old stuff but why are you worried about it?

Iecerint does not think it appeared to be an RVS vote. Nero quoted interpretable content and issued an opinion about it.

Iecerint asked about Nero's stated opinion because Iecerint was curious to see how Nero would justify it.

What does Iecprint think about Shadow attacking your attacker?
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:40 am

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Iecerint thought that your attack was unusual, so it does not disturb Iecerint that someone else also interpreted it as such.

Iecerint also recalls having considered Shadow town due to pre-crisis events IIecRC, so Iecerint is not seriously considering Shadow as a suspect atm.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:39 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:So you think I'm scum b/c I couldn't really remember anything from the old game? Is there a reason you keep chainsawing?


Here's a question for you Nero -

You are accusing Shadow for chainsaw defending both Iecerint and Fennin. Which would require all three to be scum. Doesn't make much sense in my book given you were random voting which also makes no sense.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:36 pm

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Should there be a post restriction in one of my games, the punishment for ignoring it would be further post restrictions. Once it gets to the point of being ignored to much, then I will be forced to incapacitate the player. This may or may not mean Mod Killing.

As for the status of rebooting this game, the following players have yet to respond to my messages or post in thread:
*Kurtis
*ChannelDelibird
*Otto Von Clark
*Fennin

This does not include Vincent, Kise, and Malee who have dropped out.

That is seven possible replacements which seem to be tough to find. People who have expressed interest have yet to respond to my follow ups. I promise I will do the best I can to get this game full and playable again. In the mean time, all you (as the players) can do is catch back up with the link I posted. I just need a little more time and I am sorry for any delays.

Let me know if you have any more questions or need a status update!
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:34 pm

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Forgot this had restarted.

DN: Will talk to CDB after school tonight and prod him to post.

Back tonight/tomorrow with talkings

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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:00 pm

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Downloading the old file didn't work for some reason. I'll try again when I'm back at school.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:18 am

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DeathNote wrote:
Should there be a post restriction in one of my games, the punishment for ignoring it would be further post restrictions. Once it gets to the point of being ignored to much, then I will be forced to incapacitate the player. This may or may not mean Mod Killing.

As for the status of rebooting this game, the following players have yet to respond to my messages or post in thread:
*Kurtis
*ChannelDelibird
*Otto Von Clark
*Fennin

This does not include Vincent, Kise, and Malee who have dropped out.

That is seven possible replacements which seem to be tough to find. People who have expressed interest have yet to respond to my follow ups. I promise I will do the best I can to get this game full and playable again. In the mean time, all you (as the players) can do is catch back up with the link I posted. I just need a little more time and I am sorry for any delays.

Let me know if you have any more questions or need a status update!

This actually makes me sad and takes a lot of wind out of my sales. I spent a lot of time going back through the archive and planned on spending more. However, if this games is going to collapse due to tiger attack, I may hold off on dedicating a lot more time to it.

@DN: Can we get updates on the game status and likely hood of it being able to continue? If we are left without replacements would there be mod-kills or would the game go into the DNF bin?
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:18 am

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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:12 am

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This game will not die even if I have to replace all seven inactives. Just play the game normally for now and the replacements will start flowing in soon.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:51 am

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PeregrineV wrote:Wow, a double RVS. Who'd a thunk it?

Vote: Shadow


Is this you being to scummy to be scum?
Or this scum you trying way too hard to appear too scummy to be scum?
Seriously, Nero "random" votes Iec, I point out that it is totally inapproriate and what's the next thing you do? "Random" vote me. This chain of events is so "facepalm", you better have a good explanation in your next post.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:55 am

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Wrath's #21 is.... Nopt sure what it is, but it definitely lacks something: Any analysis of the so diligently documented events...

@Iec: Oh, I misread that part about DN not resending you the PM... I get it now. Have you received any additional post restrictions or other punishment by Dn yet?
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:58 am

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Iecerint anxiously awaits WrathC readthrough completion and extrapolation.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:15 am

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Nero Cain wrote:So you think I'm scum b/c I couldn't really remember anything from the old game? Is there a reason you keep chainsawing?

Nero Cain wrote:What does Iecprint think about Shadow attacking your attacker?


So you are pressing hard the notion that I am not in fact calling you out on some suspicious behaviour but that I am in fact chainsawing Iec (and keep suggests that I was chainsawing before too, which implies Slan was chainsawed by me, probably against Fennin [this seems to be magna's interpretation at least as it seems]?).

I am pretty sure that
1. my defense of Fennin was far less subtle, i. e. pretty straight outright, and based on the fact that there is simply no well-justified reason to suspect Fennin over lots of others at the moment and that the reason so many people call him scum for (i.e. the breadcrumb issue) is min-boggling bogus.
2. My vote on Slan was based on something that he said about malee, not Fennin (though if he jumped on that waggon that would not exactly help his case I guess.... DOn't ask me for details now, I have to reread that part myself :\
3. And this is the important part: I was clearly attacking you based on your "justification" (the blatantly non-existent one) for that vote and not at all on whom you voted (which according to yourself is a totally negligible aspect of your vote in the frst place...) and there's nothing that could seriously give you the idea that it is a chainsaw unless you consider every constellation of "person A votes person B for not liking his vote on person C" which will happen over a hundred times during an average game of mafia and is not a cainsaw in an estimated 99% of those cases.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:15 am

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DeathNote wrote:
This game will not die even if I have to replace all seven inactives. Just play the game normally for now and the replacements will start flowing in soon.

Ok, thank you. I didn't know if we were gonna get shut down or have a mass modicide or what. Sounds good. I'll finish reading and summarize my thought then.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:41 am

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Shadow Dancer wrote:1. my defense of Fennin was far less subtle, i. e. pretty straight outright, and based on the fact that there is simply no well-justified reason to suspect Fennin over lots of others at the moment and that the reason so many people call him scum for (i.e. the breadcrumb issue) is min-boggling bogus.

IIecRC, Fennin was scummy prior to this point (though the crumb issue doesn't help). Iecerint thinks it was due to relational tells, though, so YMMV.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:28 pm

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Iecerint wrote:Iecerint anxiously awaits WrathC readthrough completion and extrapolation.

This.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:27 pm

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Shadow, the case on Fennin is not just the breadcrumb thing. I will read through the old posts tomorrow and provide quotes from him that establish why I suspect him.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:11 pm

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Kdub wrote:Shadow, the case on Fennin is not just the breadcrumb thing. I will read through the old posts tomorrow and provide quotes from him that establish why I suspect him.
This is one of the things I noticed too on the re-read. Somehow the Fennin case became all about the crumbing, but there were actually some other good points against him as well.

I have to travel on Sunday, but I'm hoping for some airport down time to finish my recap and conclusions. However, I am a bit concerned that there aren't any other people actually trying to do the same thing themselves.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:36 am

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~SleepyKrew is replacing in. I haven't decided who he replaces yet, I guess Vincent. Just letting you know he is in the game.~
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:06 am

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These are the relevant posts:
In post 194 (cache), Fennin wrote:I suggest we lynch Slandaar today.

Vote: Slandaar


Accused Malee of being prob scum. Me thinks he is afraid that Malee will last long enough to put on interesting reads and analyses. You trying to discredit her = scummy. Although what she posted = more of a summary than real reads, she did something. What did you do?

In post 206 (cache), Kdub wrote:Fennin:
So if you concede that Malee was posting a summary rather than analysis, what makes you think that this is somehow going to later translate into real analysis? Your reasoning for suspecting Slandaar makes no sense.

In post 291 (cache), Fennin wrote:I'll catch up later, I just skimmed and focused on my case and yes I'm Yoda and I yes that was an obvious breadcrumb, just to be used later if needed. What's scummy about it?

In post 297 (cache), Kdub wrote:That is far from the only case on you. Please explain your Slandaar vote further. As far as I can tell, Slandaar accused Malee of posting fluff, and you apparently suspect him not because you think that accusation is false, but because you think Slandaar was "afraid" that her fluff would magically turn into real analysis. Is that an accurate summary?

In post 337 (cache), Fennin wrote:To answer some of the questions I crumbed in case I had to prove the use of my ability later on. You can be sure that a jedi has a different ability than a non force user. Also no I didn't distance from Slandaar, but Slandaar is town for his actively contributions.

vote: Nero Cain


good point, why the focus on elmo while elmo hasn't been active at all? that's maybe some serious distancing.

Fennin made no other posts during this time. He put a vote on Slandaar that was based on questionable reasoning and then blatantly ignored my question twice. The breadcrumb thing is not a factor in my vote on him.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:48 pm

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MOD – I’ll be LA til Monday morning after this post for my usual weekend family duties.


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I’m doing a re-read of the archive soon but Shadow’s recent posting reminds me 100% of why he’s Town.

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ooba wrote:This.


Oh, so you eagerly await Wrath’s analysis of the posts while you have given us a Vote and this? Why exactly aren’t you providing analysis and scum-hunting?

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Kdub wrote: He put a vote on Slandaar that was based on questionable reasoning


No, it isn’t questionable at all.

Slaandar’s reason for voting Malee was terribly scummy. He voted her simply because she provided content. Not for the content itself – simply because she provided content.

Speaking of Slaandar – why exactly is he posting all over site but not doing anything here?
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:50 am

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cos I didnt know this game had started again?

Magna is super scummy for not understanding the Malee wagon hes taking the side of right as he cant feel like a townie does.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:55 am

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Is there an archive somewhere?

I dont remember much about the game honestly...

I want to reread fennin I remember his first post being a crumb which made the case on him weaker but meh his vote on me was ridiculous so he prob is scum still.

Malee is scum probably too... her replacing out is a scumtell from her. She made all that effort in those posts and then gives up? really? no. Thats not town.
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