Open 385 - No Lynching Town - GAME OVER

[Packbat]

Oh, thats what that meant. I thought you were doing some weird random confirmation shit. Also, no need to be so offensive. Disrupting town is anti-town.

Pack: is that a real fos, or a RVS fos?

A vote is not a FOS.

[drmyshotgun]

Thank you for those who answered. Less can be said to those who didn't.
Its my first time trying to open up a game with series of apparently random questions and perhaps many of you thought these questions were useless.
Well, I thought the point of posting Random Questions in the earlier stage of the game is usually to get people actually talking.
You can't just have big chunks of accurate reasonings with your first post.

Confirm vote for uselessness. RVS is now over.

At least it gets people talking. Unlike you just posting a vote and saying NOTHING else.

No.

No what? No I can't? No I shouldn't?

Believe it or not, I can detect scums and towns with these questions.

You're bluffing right? You better be.

Shouldn't you be wishing, I better can?

Post 8 from Metabot. He seem to be trying to buddy up with me.
I haven't actually played with him before, and I forgot that we had the fun-az word game together some time ago.
I already said I don't really know anyone except for AcRv in my first post but asking me to "remember" him is kind of strange way to go.
He also seems to provide reasonings for his faults actually BEFORE any fault has been made on his account. Strange thing to do.
For question 8, he acknowledges that answering "Vigilante" would keep him more under the radar and yet he goes for Serial Killer. Its not his decision to go SK that bothers me, but the fact that he bothered to acknowledge the possible outcome of his choice.
Seems to me that he is preparing quite a bit of defense for himself already when there is no apparent threat to him yet.

First, let's get this straight. I am NOT Drmyshottyizsik. I made a grave mistake in making my ID sound like his and this resulted in truly unfortunate situation for me.

Noted, Gunny.

Thanks for the new nickname. I like how this sounds: Gunny.

wasssup shotty

Here's another person trying to act as if he knows me. Notice the tripple "S" he puts there?
I think you mistake me for Drmyshottyizsik? Cuz you don't bother to say "wasssup" to anyone else but me. Or are you just following your buddy Metabot on this?
Or are you doing this on purpose to annoy me.

About my meta...I actually have none? I was in the middle of a game when the site crashed.
Happens to be my first one. Its apparently supposed to comeback soon and keep going.
But I did play quite a bit of mafia before and I did study some on this site before I joined.
Hence I came to like Drmyshottyizsik and made a mistake of my lifetime to make my ID sound like his.

This is not RQS. RQS actually has semi-useful questions. These aren't.
They are not generating discussion. I don't care what you think or say, the quality of my life would have been better without those worthless fucking questions.
I see you quoted post 2. And then post 3. Did your brain shut off before 4?

So...you don't consider anything that's going on right now as a discussion?
Just because I thought of less useful questions than you would have makes me scum?
Well sorry for the "worthless fucking questions". But I don't see a single question from you.
The only thing you did so far was to cast a vote on me and that was like wow. Did so much thing.
You voted me as soon as the game started. As soon as I posted some questions which I thought would do something (and I think it kinda did), you say RVS is over and that your vote is confirmed. Without any discussions, any attempt to reason.
You just post a vote and seal yourself? Whoa, that's like, Game Over for you man. Well done.

3. Where do you live?
Under your bed. Well, some of the time. But normally in Adelaide, Australia. And before someone asks, no we don't ride kangaroos around, and we don't have snakes get in our electrical wires. Drop bears, on the otherhand...

How about them Koalas in your backyard? And Alligators living in your pond?

8. Vigilante or Serial Killer?
I've only played Serial Killer in a Dethy game, but I'd rather be Serial Killer than Vig... because you can't accidentally shoot your team mate as serial killer

Good reasoning.

Don't think the questions will be answered anytime soon.

Oh, thats what that meant. I thought you were doing some weird random confirmation shit. Also, no need to be so offensive. Disrupting town is anti-town.

Pack: is that a real fos, or a RVS fos?

Why do you ask?

[drmyshotgun]

Vote: Metabot

[Metabot]

Because of the buddying?

I defend people who I feel I deserve to be defended. I agree with people who I feel deserve to be agreed with. Just because I spoke in your favor doesn't necessarily mean I'm trying to get your favor... unless you can show that I wouldn't normally agree/defend what I did.

Questions to both of you: (answer this within the next two pages, at least)
Was your vote RVS (with a weak reason behind it) to generate discussion, or are you actually supporting me getting lynched today?

[SleepyKrew]

You said you can discern alignments. Well?

[Packbat]

Because of the buddying?

I defend people who I feel I deserve to be defended. I agree with people who I feel deserve to be agreed with. Just because I spoke in your favor doesn't necessarily mean I'm trying to get your favor... unless you can show that I wouldn't normally agree/defend what I did.

Questions to both of you: (answer this within the next two pages, at least)
Was your vote RVS (with a weak reason behind it) to generate discussion, or are you actually supporting me getting lynched today?

Yes. Read this essay.

[drmyshotgun]

I don't think at this stage the votes should be considered serious.
Your reaction is a bit off but I can understand. Takes only four votes to get lynched.
If I HAVE to put it in some way or the other, I'm gonna say that the vote was RVS to generate discussion.

[SleepyKrew]

You said you can discern alignments. Well?

[Packbat]

Actually: why haven't you responded to the rest of drmyshotgun's case, Metabot? The remainder of his comments on your Post #8 seem far more pertinent.

[Junpei]

Vote Count 1.1

Metabot (

L-2

): Packbat drmyshotgun
drmyshotgun (L-3): SleepyKrew
Packbat (L-3): andrew94

Not Voting

: Vincent2128, AcRv, Metabot

With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch, and 4 to no lynch.

Deadline

: Saturday April 7th, 2012 ; 6 PM EST

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:Yesterday I learned that my neighbors' dog was missing, so I went looking for it for four hours with him, eventually finding him dumping in my backyard (someone has been doing this for a few weeks now and I just found out it was him). Other than that my weekend was uneventful, I didn't even watch basketball.

[drmyshotgun]

You said you can discern alignments. Well?

You talkin' to me? Even after you refused to answer my "worthless fucking questions"?

@Packbat: Your "Yes". What question is it answering?

[SleepyKrew]

Hey Pack, why Meta?

PEDIT: Prove me wrong.

[Metabot]

I haven't actually played with him before, and I forgot that we had the fun-az word game together some time ago.I already said I don't really know anyone except for AcRv in my first post but asking me to "remember" him is kind of strange way to go.He also seems to provide reasonings for his faults actually BEFORE any fault has been made on his account. Strange thing to do.For question 8, he acknowledges that answering "Vigilante" would keep him more under the radar and yet he goes for Serial Killer. Its not his decision to go SK that bothers me, but the fact that he bothered to acknowledge the possible outcome of his choice.Seems to me that he is preparing quite a bit of defense for himself already when there is no apparent threat to him yet.

Yeah, I realize this early in the game, we'll be hunting for scraps here, but I might as well respond to it.

You said you didn't know anyone, I remarked about it, because you were wrong. You did know me. Found it weird (not scummy, just weird) that you denied it.
I provide reasonings for my faults, because its better just to explain them now then go having to explain them later, if/when I derp up like that. Like I said, I made that comment every single game, regardless of alignment. People usually remark on how thats scummy, but imo, its always harmless and just gets people to talk more
The fact that I acknowledge the outcome should indicate i'm more towny, actually. I'm not afraid of shining the spotlight on me, at least not in the beginning of the game when i'm not really wasting anyone's time (in fact, I'm doing the opposite)

ummm... shit got updated. I like the activity, will reply to it in another post. This post should belong right after my previous one.

[SleepyKrew]

Don't WIFOM.

[Packbat]

@Packbat: Your "Yes". What question is it answering?

Questions to both of you: (answer this within the next two pages, at least)
Was your vote RVS (with a weak reason behind it) to generate discussion, or are you actually supporting me getting lynched today?

[drmyshotgun]

I said I know AcRv and have played him before. I forgot about the thing we had and yes I was wrong. But only after you gave that word game did I recognize you.

Don't WIFOM.

To what is this? Can you actually make posts that actually contain something, not just one sentence?

@Pack: Okay. The question asks you to choose between two options. Not Yes or No question.

[SleepyKrew]

Okay.
Gunny: You said you could discern alignments based on people's answers. What are you waiting for.
Meta: Don't WIFOM.

[Metabot]

Yes. Read this essay.

Yes to what question?

Your reaction is a bit off but I can understand.

I don't think I've been defensive lately. If I have, then its probably because its something easy to do when we're out of food.

Actually: why haven't you responded to the rest of drmyshotgun's case, Metabot? The remainder of his comments on your Post #8 seem far more pertinent.

split my post, didn't think there would be so much activity in between.

Don't WIFOM.

The wifom was inherient. I expressed the knowledge of the fact that it might make me look scummy, thereby making any statement expressed like that's alignment-revealing-qualities negligible. Of course, this only applies to non protown/proscum actions.

Packbat: I know, I want to know are you saying "yes" to the first part or the second part, sorry.

[drmyshotgun]

I'm waiting for you to answer my "useless fucking questions".

[Packbat]

@Pack: Okay. The question asks you to choose between two options. Not Yes or No question.

I know this. I answered that way on purpose as a way of emphasizing my rejection of its premise. I linked the essay I did as a way of

explaining

why I reject its premise.

[SleepyKrew]

Pack, you must've missed it. Why are you voting Meta?

Gunny, can't you do it without me? Who hasn't answered them besides me?

[Metabot]

He said why before, basically quoted your "did your brain turn off before post 4."

Packback: Yeah, I understand now. I'm still expecting you to tell me after rvs is over.

[SleepyKrew]

Jesus Christ, RVS has been fucking over forever. And don't answer questions for others.

[Metabot]

And guys really, stop being jerks to each other. I know its not a lot, but I don't want it escalating. Verbal violence NEVER benefits town.

Sleepykrew: From my pov, its not so much as what we could possibly gain, but the fact that you seem rather uncomfortable answering questions, which by this point, should be clear to you you might as well answer, just for the sake of having shotty have something more interesting to talk about.

PEDIT: You've been saying that from the third post in the game. I doubt its true back then. And its not true, especially if we're using packbat's definition, which is pretty much being deprived of information in the beginning of the game. We're still deprived, and you're not helping.

[Packbat]

Pack, you must've missed it. Why are you voting Meta?

There's a certain amount of gut in it - when your remark at #19 directed my attention to his posting, it read to me as the kind of self-serving gibberish I tend to find suspicious, and that plus his mischaracterization of your vote felt sufficient to distinguish him from the pack.

I may have a more formal case later; on the other hand, I may change my vote. Game's early yet.

Preview Edit: Such as now, in fact.

UNVOTE: Metabot

Also, SleepyKrew is right: it's not meet to answer others' questions - scumhunting often depends on getting unadulterated reactions.