Mini 1320--Redwall Mafia: Spirit Lore (The Sun Has Set)

[quadz08]

HI

VOTE: Korlash

I am a modified rolecop; my role gives me the ability to see the abilities any player's role PM states. One of Korlash's abilities allows him to decide during confirmation stage to be either NK-immune or return Redwall-aligned to investigations.

WOOOOOOO

[PeregrineV]

HI

VOTE: Korlash

I am a modified rolecop; my role gives me the ability to see the abilities any player's role PM states. One of Korlash's abilities allows him to decide during confirmation stage to be either NK-immune or return Redwall-aligned to investigations.

WOOOOOOO

And his other abilities?

[quadz08]

When he dies, the mod will inform everyone that he's a Spirit. That's it.

[Junpei]

vote korlash

tell us your investigation, you claimed investigative role yesterday, Korlash

quadz, do you think it'd be in towns' best interest to have protection on you (your self evident alignment beside the point)

[quadz08]

I'd say yes because I'm currently the only outed town PR (unless I'm forgetting something but I don't think I am), but I don't want to straight-up direct any protective role we may have. They need to play the WIFOM game with the other scum.

[pappums rat]

HI

VOTE: Korlash

I am a modified rolecop; my role gives me the ability to see the abilities any player's role PM states. One of Korlash's abilities allows him to decide during confirmation stage to be either NK-immune or return Redwall-aligned to investigations.

WOOOOOOO

So let me get this straight... you say Korlash's PM said that he could choose between either being NK immune or return Redwall-aligned to investigations. Based upon your reaction to this I think you think he is some sort of Mafia Godfather. This means:

A. Being able to be NK immune would mean, if he is scum, that there is either two anti-town factions or some sort of vig in this game.
B. Returning Redwall-aligned to investigations would mean there is another investigative role in this game that is not yours, which I would think is rather unlikely given the size of the game.

I think quadz and Korlash should both fullclaim in their next post.

I also now think a massclaim may be in the town's best interests.

[Junpei]

We aren't massclaiming pappums, don't get excited.

Quadz shouldn't fullclaim, Korlash can but he's our lynch today 100%.

[quadz08]

Yes, those are the implications. In fact, I'd submit that the Vijay kill is likely to be a vigkill, NOT a scumkill. I don't remember there being many people who considered him town, and I think everyone thought he was useless.

I'd also bet that every role in this game is a PR of some type, meaning that 2 investigative roles (especially when mine wouldn't turn up anything about alignment except in this very specific case) isn't really that much of a stretch.

I'm comfortable with fullclaiming if a majority of the town would like me to, but I would definitely like to hear one from Korlash, even if it's only to see how clever his fakeclaim is.

Additionally, I think we massclaim after the Korlash lynch. No need to give the scum an extra night of full disclosure.

[PeregrineV]

Yeah, sounds like a GF to me.

No to quadz claiming today.

Vote: Korlash

[Korlash]

Well this is going to be fun.

@ Quad: I respect your balls for taking this initiative mate, but you need some practice with fake claims. When you claim something that actually outright suggests you're lying at a time when any sane town would stay silent... yeah... Definitely not the best choice. Just between us, what do you guys have? Some way to hide my flip? Some way to make me flip 'scum'? Honestly, tell me, I'll keep it a secret.

Vote: Quadz

I actually have two abilities 'Spirit Healer' and 'Lessons of Loamhedge'. Spirit Healer acts like a one shot doc, I'm able to use my power to heal someone from all wounds inflicted upon them that night and nurse them back to full health by morning. Lessons of Loamhedge works as a one shot cop. Due to the disaster at my former abbey I have learned to be more vigilant and keep a more watchful eye on the place and the people in it to help prevent any similar disasters. So I'm able to investigate someone and find out if they are or are not an actual inhabitant of Redwall. (obviously, I can only do one per night)

I choose to investigate Z-something last night and got no result back. I take that to mean the scum have a RB which only pisses me off that I didn't keep my mouth shut after I was 'lynched'.

Now, on to Quad's fakeclaim.

I am a modified rolecop; my role gives me the ability to see the abilities any player's role PM states. One of Korlash's abilities allows him to decide during confirmation stage to be either NK-immune or return Redwall-aligned to investigations.

So the scum(me) have an ability(choice) to become investigation immune, but the town cop(you) investigates in such a way as to make that immunity worthless? Bullshit. Given the size of the game, I can understand the mod throwing in red herrings to keep the scum guessing, but to actually fuck them over in that way is beyond awful.

And 'redwall-aligned'? Is that what it actually says because mine talks about inhabitants and non-inhabitants.

I also now think a massclaim may be in the town's best interests.

I think we should mass role claim so I can have a say on it before I'm lynched. I honestly am fairly good at figuring out a games flavor. I expect the scum got safe claims, but I'd still like the chance to have a shot at it if I may.

Yes, those are the implications. In fact, I'd submit that the Vijay kill is likely to be a vigkill, NOT a scumkill. I don't remember there being many people who considered him town, and I think everyone thought he was useless.

Really? Trying to cover up the kill... Sad really... Who besides me actually thought he was scum? Who?

[Korlash]

Quadz shouldn't fullclaim, Korlash can but he's our lynch today 100%.

As obvious a fakeclaim as his is, sadly I have to agree. Especially after yesterday. However, I would caution you to take anything that happens with a grain of salt because I fear the scum have some trick up their sleeve with this.

[quadz08]

So the scum(me) have an ability(choice) to become investigation immune, but the town cop(you) investigates in such a way as to make that immunity worthless? Bullshit. Given the size of the game, I can understand the mod throwing in red herrings to keep the scum guessing, but to actually fuck them over in that way is beyond awful.

And 'redwall-aligned'? Is that what it actually says because mine talks about inhabitants and non-inhabitants.

You sound upset about your role. Sorry that my role just so happens to be the one that beats yours. Rock, Paper, Scissors.
Also, yes, Redwall-aligned were the actual words used.

I think we should mass role claim so

I can have a say on it before I'm lynched. I honestly am fairly good at figuring out a games flavor. I expect the scum got safe claims, but I'd still like the chance to have a shot at it if I may.

my partner has a better chance to kill a PR tonight.

Really? Trying to cover up the kill... Sad really... Who besides me actually thought he was scum? Who?

Ummmm... your point? Everyone agreed he was useless as hell; he'd be an awful kill from the scum perspective. Even more so since, as you say, you didn't think he was town.

QQ more, Korlash.

[quadz08]

OH HEY ALSO

vijay2vasandani, Sunflash the Mace, Redwall-aligned Creature, was murdered on Night One.

See the use of "Redwall-aligned?" THANKS FOR PLAYING TRY AGAIN NEXT TIME

[Junpei]

I was going to decide to lynch Quadz, until Korlash made a post suggesting a mass claim because he's "good with flavor" even though he thinks "some scum got fakeclaims". "some scum", emphasis on some, how many more scum are there than "some", which implies more than one or at least 2?

Secondly Korlash has said two fold that he wants to be lynched, and both times he showed evidence that he doesn't want to be lynched.

It's time to hang, Korlash. No mass claim, but I do want a claim for quadz before daybreak, I want quadz to be fully held accountable for his role so I would like to support the notion that he releases more details.

[vijay2vasandani]

Go town.

Vijay, please re-read Mechanics rule #10. Kthxbai. ~DY

[quadz08]

Like I said, I'll fullclaim if enough of the town asks for it. I've no problem with it.

[Zdenek]

Vote Korlash

I am willing to leave it to Quadz' discretion as to whether or not he full claims.

[Junpei]

unvote

No hammering, jeez.

I want quadz to full claim. Anyone disagree with this?

[Korlash]

QQ more, Korlash.

What are you, twelve? Come on mate, you 'claim' to have tantamount to a guilty on me and I 'know' you're lying. Why do you have to resort to childish games? Can't it just be about the game?

I think we should mass role claim so my partner has a better chance to kill a PR tonight.

Don't forget, I'm not the one that brought it up. You have to at least pretend to actually be looking at everyone who suggests it if you want people to think you're against the idea.

See the use of "Redwall-aligned?" THANKS FOR PLAYING TRY AGAIN NEXT TIME

Well Mine deals with 'inhabitants' but it's nice to know where you got the idea to say what you did.

I was going to decide to lynch Quadz, until Korlash made a post suggesting a mass claim because he's "good with flavor" even though he thinks "some scum got fakeclaims". "some scum", emphasis on some, how many more scum are there than "some", which implies more than one or at least 2?

Jun mate, I never said "some"... *shakes head* Don't beat yourself up too much here, but at least reread what I post before jumping to conclusions next time, all right?

Also, I've won multiple games (Clerks and Fire Emblem for reference) Due entirely to flavor speculation BY ME. Given how much I know this series I know I can give some insight and help weed out those Fakeclaims. sadly, a full mass claim would be ideal but I'm not suggesting we go that far. Since my investigation I fought to use gave us nothing, this is all I can offer anymore.

[PeregrineV]

Unvote.

Full claim would probably only be flavor, so it doesn't matter to me. It'll matter more once we have a Korlash flip.

[hiplop]

i have a feeling korlash is being truthful. Something just seems to forced-WIFOMY

VOTE: Quadz

[Korlash]

EBWOP: Ok, 'entirely' was a bad word to use... In part would be a better phrase, or "At LYLO" maybe. I don't intend to sound like I was a one man army in those games, but my speculation did lead to the last scum in both games being caught that probably would have slipped by otherwise.

[Korlash]

Unvote.

Full claim would probably only be flavor, so it doesn't matter to me. It'll matter more once we have a Korlash flip.

Why did you unvote? You've been acting real strange during my wagons... >.> what is up with that?

[Junpei]

Unvote.

Full claim would probably only be flavor, so it doesn't matter to me. It'll matter more once we have a Korlash flip.

Why did you unvote? You've been acting real strange during my wagons... >.> what is up with that?

Scumpal.

Mass flavor claim makes just a little sense. I thought someone said there were so many characters in this series that it'd be simple to fake a flavor claim? Besides, it could hint at peoples' roles. We are NOT doing any mode of claiming. The only one claiming is Quadz.

[pappums rat]

Unvote.

Full claim would probably only be flavor, so it doesn't matter to me. It'll matter more once we have a Korlash flip.

Why did you unvote? You've been acting real strange during my wagons... >.> what is up with that?

It's because he's scum, of course.

Korlash, I dont think you have claimed your name yet, please do so.

quadz has already claimed his role, he needs to fullclaim, there is no reason why he shouldnt.

Also quadz, do you stand behind your statement that we could have multiple people with similar roles?