Open 387: Jungle Republic (Day 6 - ends in a Town Victory)

[Om of the Nom]

null read can go either way. It still doesn't make me a def. town or def. scum read.

[Thomith]

but why did you assume it was a flat out scum read?

[Om of the Nom]

Because it didn't sound like something he'd say if I were a town read. Plus I completely forgot about null reads existing :V

[Thomith]

that makes sense... owait >.>.
You "forgot" null reads existed, how convenient for you...

[Om of the Nom]

It's not my fault my memory is bad.

[Om of the Nom]

You're just biased and are twisting everything I do to make it look scummy.

[Thomith]

ummm.... no.
you assumed he was calling you scum even when he wasn't, that seems like paranoid play to me, now it could be paranoid town, but the way you have attacked me for bringing it up makes me think it is paranoid scum.

[Om of the Nom]

How would I know whether or not he was actually calling me scum in the first place?

[Thomith]

ask him what he means or wait to see if he brings it up again? not "OMG IM NOT SCUM"

[Om of the Nom]

But it wasn't "OMG IM NOT SCUM," it was "So wait, does that mean you think I am scum?"

[Thomith]

if you were town why would you have cared though, towns main objective is to find scum, not to look town.
Also "does it make me scum" is the towny looking way of saying "OMG IM NOT SCUM"

[Elmo TeH AzN]

So what questions do you have?
Really Om your flailing over nothing right now.
And I'm still up usally till 7 am est or so

[Om of the Nom]

@Thomith: I'm trying to get clear opinions out of him.

@Elmo: You already answered my question.

[Thomith]

you wanted a solid opinion... it just looked like you freaked out to me but...

[Slandaar]

Chrimi is definitely scum here hes misrepping deliberately.

OK

I am the seer

Om is very bad, but hes town probably. Thomith is town. Kondi is town. Asher is probably town. thats 5/7 town. Lynching scum shouldnt be too hard. Lynching dr or Chrimi is definitely the best bet.

Never seen Elmo post so much, not sure what that means. Maybe town.

Dont vote any of my townreads meaning the only wagon available is Chrimi or start your own.

[Thomith]

I'll need alot of convincing for you to convince me om is town.
Also can we unvote now then, we really shouldnt lynch a claimed seer day 1.

[Om of the Nom]

UNVOTE:
I still think you could be scum, but I believe the claim.

[Thomith]

that makes sense.
"i still think you could be scum, but i believe your

Seer

claim"
wutwutwutwutwutwutwut.

[asher1611]

asher, when you talk about kass in the spoiler tag you say "hello wolfie wolfie" infering her being a werewolf, when we have two scumgroups in the game, what made you assume werewolf?

Its obvious. Hes mafia.

I seriously LOL'd. I hope you're being facetious.

I'll need alot of convincing for you to convince me om is town.
Also can we unvote now then, we really shouldnt lynch a claimed seer day 1.

I agree that OM has a huge uphill battle to convince me that he's anything other than town. However, I am surprised that you are so willing to buy Sland's roleclaim. I give two reasons, but first I'll start with the post where he claimed:

Chrimi is definitely scum here hes misrepping deliberately.

OK

I am the seer

Om is very bad, but hes

town probably

. Thomith is

town

. Kondi is

town

. Asher is probably

town

. thats 5/7 town. Lynching scum shouldnt be too hard. Lynching dr or Chrimi is definitely the best bet.

Never seen Elmo post so much, not sure what that means. Maybe town.

Dont vote any of my townreads

meaning the only wagon available is Chrimi or start your own.

1) Look at the setup. The ONLY town power role is seer. It is highly valuable to the town, but easily targetable by the scum as well because there are no town protective roles. A seer claiming as seer is asking to get night killed -- which can be a smart play when he can divulge data to trade his death for the death of other scum. However, a seer claiming as such on day 1 has no data to give to the town, and is essentially throwing away the town's only power role without getting any info on the other players.

From the posts I have seen by sland, he's not that stupid if he were, in fact, the seer.

2) This is a player who has criticized people for giving out their "town reads" as essentially making them meaningless. I'll have to find the post by him again at some point that essentially says "vote based on your town reads, don't share them to the town it's pointless." Yet at the drop of the hat when he is at L-1 what does he do? He drops a bunch of names as his town reads, tries to direct the town how to vote, and then tries to throw mud and say "we should target these people and not my town reads."

Very inconsistent. To be honest, it looks like desperation to me.

I am willing to switch my vote to hammer Sland. Consider this intent to hammer, but I guess it is prudent to hear what a few other town members say first regarding Sland's claim.

[asher1611]

UNVOTE:
I still think you could be scum, but I believe the claim.

looks like my post came in too slow.

OM you're scum or a fool...or both.

[Thomith]

If you have a seer claim day 1 then you don't lynch it, obviously this doesn't clear slandaar, but with 2 scum reads of mine (1 now i guess but still) i was wary of the wagon to begin with.
If we lynch slandaar and he does flip seer then effectively we are getting rid of the only town role that can catch them (easily?) and giving them a free shot.

[Ravel]

Day 1 Vote Count

Slandaar (5): Kassadin, Chrimi, drmyshotgun, vijay2vasandani, Elmo TeH AzN
Om of the Nom (3): LBJ, Thomith, asher1611
kondi2424 (1): vijay2vasandani
asher1611 (1): kondi2424
Chrimi (1): Slandaar

Not Voting (2): BagSquad, Om of the Nom

There are 12 players alive, which means it takes 7 votes to lynch.
Deadline in

(expired on 2012-04-16 09:00:00)

(April 16, 9:00 AM EDT or 1:00 PM GMT)

As of Post #420

[Om of the Nom]

If you have a seer claim day 1 then you don't lynch it, obviously this doesn't clear slandaar.

This was exactly what I meant, why the fuck are you guys calling me an idiot?

[Ravel]

Prodding BagSquad

Kondi has 24 hours to post
LBJ has 12 hours to post

Seriously guys, with deadline looming replacements are not getting easier to find.

[Thomith]

nope om, you said you believed slandaar but still suspect him.