D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[syndromeofadown]

MoI can you flail some more please?

[MagnaofIllusion]

MoI can you flail some more please?

Classic scum response - when you can't actually make an argument just call responses flailing.

[syndromeofadown]

I don't have enough time to post a wall of text right now, but I assure you I will.

[4nxi3ty]

4. Me and Peregrine scumbuddies?: I just thought it was pretty clear that we wanted each other dead and when whats-his-face came in and suggested it I was a bit surprised and asked him to clarify.

A ring-a-ding Wrath makes the exact same slip as Peregrine.

neither are slips, wrath was trying to tie himself to a townie tho.

unvote, Vote: Wrath

Uhh, what?

What townie am I trying to tie myself to? Do you know someone is town that I don't?

hmm I thought you were trying to portray you and pv as bussing scumbuddies, yet, your response seems genuine.

unvote

definitely do not like a pv-lynch. think moi is on to something with syndrome, especially with the 'flail comment'. hopefully syndrome counter-wagon can take off in time. if not, meh, let the night game clear some things up.

Vote: Syndrome

[Kdub]

For the record I think the explanations given are bad. I think blaster talk should be treated just as seriously as lynching during the day. I think comparing it to a vig kill is misleading. Tomorrow we should probably put more serious thought into it and have everyone discuss it rather than just casually mentioning it in passing.

The main reason why it should not be treated as an extra lynch is because it is possible that the scum have some sort of power that can mess with the blaster kill if they know where it is going (e.g. doctor).

Eh, not really. Some Meta tell I should know about?

Not a tell, but MoI is a fairly aggressive and stubborn player. Most of your points against him I see as not being particularly unusual given my experience with him. I do think your attack on him was reasonable in a vacuum, but I think you are off base here.

How so?

I'm not going to keep going in circles with you. The posts are there, read them and address them. Every time you try to evade from now on, I'm just going to post this series of quotes highlighting your contradiction:

I'm Yoda, and if I'm correct, I'm

unkillable

. I have an active that deflects blaster shots and a passive that renders force powers useless.

...explain to me the point of this type of ability being an active ability when you have no other active abilities?

I also can attract people to me, but I felt that wasn't as relevent.

1. Because normally I just claim my role so I'd say "I'd need to claim role," but because that wouldn't work I decided to use "I'd need to fullclaim all my abilities."

Force Pull doesn't matter all that much, but if I'm claiming the other two there isn't really a reason not to claim it.

It's apparent that BB is not going to be today's lynch given the imminent deadline, but I am going to continue pursuing this tomorrow. Between the two leading wagons (WC and Peregrine), I have a slight preference a WC lynch, though his recent posts do seem to contain more content. The people on the respective wagons, however, is making me wary of a Peregrine lynch.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: WrathChild

Town also get lynched when people claim they ‘botched’ their claims also. I’ll like to know where you get your statistical evidence that it happens to scum more than Town.

So I’m calling you on this. Show me one other example in a Non-Marathon game of scum getting caught with a ‘blown’ fake-claim Day 1 after crumbing heavily Day 1.

1. Yes, town certainly does get lynched when they botch their claim, as well they should. Town has no reason to mess up their claim if they are just paraphrasing from a role PM, whereas scum are lying about their claim. The fact that it occasionally happens to town doesn't make it a town tell.
2. I don't see why the D1 and breadcrumb parts matter since I would be attacking BB for this regardless of what day it was and whether he had crumbed or not, particularly since flavor name (the part that was crumbed) does not imply alignment in this game. In fact, it's not even necessary to provide examples of scum getting lynched for this to support my point (the town could just have missed it). You're asking me for an unnecessarily specific example (which I might be able to find anyway if I took the time to look through enough games) when examples of scum making flawed claims is all that is needed. If you want to find examples of town vs. me finding examples of scum doing this to get a statistical sample, I'd be happy to oblige.

[BBmolla]

...You still think I'm scum based off of my claim?

What is wrong with you? I just didn't mention an irrelevent ability when I first claimed, why the hell are you so bent on my claim being wrong? Do you really think I could come in here, make up a totally fake claim without reading the game, insist my fake claim was what my replacee was going to accomplish despite me not even knowing what my replacee had done, and then claim it without claiming one ability because I'm retarded? Like, what the hell is your plausible explanation here bro?

[Slandaar]

kdub is town

I really think Magna is scum here

[Nero Cain]

@hascow Maybe its just me but I would think that since you noted that he did something you have done as some mysterious allignment you would be leaning on whatever alligment you were and since you said you saw nothing I assumed you meant town. SO WHAT ALLIGNMENT WERE YOU? Also why was it important to leave out what allignment you were? I have no clue what cassandra-ing is. You can explain it if you wish.

kdubs defense of hascow in 555 is noted

@MOI-there was no backtrack here. As far as the bolded goes...I think it makes perfect sence for a newb player with a scum pm to say "oh crap, I have a picture of a bad guy."

@Slandaar so you think scumcow and scum Shmugen are trying to buch up with him to look innocent?

Yeah I'm not going to join a wagon that Shmugen is on.

[Nero Cain]

@Slandaar while I disagree with you on WC. Would you be interested in a hascow or Shmugen wagon?

WC and SOD have already agreed to a hascow wagon.

[hasdgfas]

@hascow Maybe its just me but I would think that since you noted that he did something you have done as some mysterious allignment you would be leaning on whatever alligment you were and since you said you saw nothing I assumed you meant town. SO WHAT ALLIGNMENT WERE YOU? Also why was it important to leave out what allignment you were? I have no clue what cassandra-ing is. You can explain it if you wish.

I have no idea what any of this is referring to. Could you use quotes please?

[Nero Cain]

STALL MOAR!!!!

vote:hascow

[Slandaar]

Shmugen is good

Cow hmmmmmm

[syndromeofadown]

MoI wagon isn't picking up, I'll settle for hascow. I think it's the best alternative wagon.

UNVOTE: MaguaofIllusion

vote: hasdf

[Nero Cain]

"I believe the "I posted in the reboot thread and didn't check it later", because I've done the same thing he's claiming to do.

here you state that you've done the same thing as Slandaar as some mystery alligment.

The more I see Slandaar post, the more I think he's

Cassandra-ing

.

You seem to be conveniently ignoring the other thing I said about slandaar in that post as well, where I mention him

Cassandra-ing

.

And your pretending to not know what I was talking about just looks like stalling.

I would ask you why you're voting PV for the same thing that Kdub is doing but I'm pretty sure I already know why.

[Slandaar]

oh wait thats malees slot...

ok

yeah lets do that

UNVOTE:
VOTE: hascow

WC vote hascow please, PV/WC dont vote each other

[hasdgfas]

oh wait thats malees slot...

ok

yeah lets do that

UNVOTE:
VOTE: hascow

WC vote hascow please, PV/WC dont vote each other

STALL MOAR!!!!

vote:hascow

MoI wagon isn't picking up, I'll settle for hascow. I think it's the best alternative wagon.

UNVOTE: MaguaofIllusion

vote: hasdf

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Get off me if you want to keep your arms.

"I believe the "I posted in the reboot thread and didn't check it later", because I've done the same thing he's claiming to do.

here you state that you've done the same thing as Slandaar as some mystery alligment.

It was as town.

The more I see Slandaar post, the more I think he's

Cassandra-ing

.

You seem to be conveniently ignoring the other thing I said about slandaar in that post as well, where I mention him

Cassandra-ing

.

And your pretending to not know what I was talking about just looks like stalling.

Yeah, wanting clarification is stalling.

Cassandra-ing is whining about the stupid reason people are voting you for, even if they're actually right about you being scum.

I would ask you why you're voting PV for the same thing that Kdub is doing but I'm pretty sure I already know why.

I'm voting PV because he claimed scum. As did WC.

[Shmugen]

A strong push to change wagons a mere 8 hours before the deadline. Somewhat suspicious, NC.

[Nero Cain]

yep. total scum motivation for you to try and get a lynch together on scum.

[Shmugen]

I just find it interesting that while you've been pushing somewhat on Hascow for a while, you only vote him after he asks you an honest question and even then only has the hours wane for your scum partner Peregrine.

[Nero Cain]

the PV wagon is riddled with fail/scum like yourself. Slandaar is town. WC had no traction. And Nexus/wagons weren't my top choices. Your chainsaw defense of Hascow is noted.

[Shmugen]

Note all you wish, Nero. To borrow some vernacular,

Point 1 isn’t valid since, you know, we don’t have a flip on that slot. Cow flips scum and you can make that argument. Otherwise you are attributing scum play to something that doesn’t come from scum more than Town – Town are fully capable of seeing a crap attack and pointing it out.

I'm not locked in to my PV vote by any means. You say you're not joining any wagon I'm on, are you saying that I could theoretically move your vote by joining you on the Cow wagon?

You say the WC wagon had no traction. You were on that wagon once, what changed your mind? He's certainly a viable wagon today, lack of traction shouldn't change your mind on alignment.

[Nero Cain]

I highly doubt you'll bus your buddy cow. I have a scum read independent of you. If you so wish to join the cow wagon in an attempt to derail it then so be it but I'm not going to hop off. WC had 4 or 5 votes. Cow currently has 4 (5 if you count WC's potential vote)

Explain why cow is town?

[Shmugen]

He may be. He may not be. I'll look into joining the Cow wagon if you'll explain how the difference between you voting WC and you voting Cow was him asking you to use quotes in your jumbled attack.

[Nero Cain]

Would you rather be wagoned then cow?

I don't get your question but whatever. We can achieve a scum lynch without you bussing your buddy.

[hasdgfas]

Would you rather be wagoned then cow?

I don't get your question but whatever. We can achieve a scum lynch without you bussing your buddy.

"I don't have an answer for you because you're right, so I'm going to ignore the question"