Worst Role Mafia - GAME OVER!

[Amrun]

Why should I have to tell you that?

I want to know what you think it is. Because clearly we have to different ideas about what it is in mind.

That balance makes you town. It clearly doesn't.

[Amrun]

Also that your first recruit was more likely to be town. that's just bullshit.

[BBmolla]

Why should I have to tell you that?

I want to know what you think it is. Because clearly we have to different ideas about what it is in mind.

That balance makes you town. It clearly doesn't.

Balance isn't what makes me town, this is:

-If I was scum, then odds are she wouldn't be once I recruited her. A fucking scum recruiter would be so game breaking it's not even funny.

-If I was scum, I wouldn't recruit the player who can read me perfectly, that's like asking to get lynched.
-If I was scum, why the hell would I bring in a player who can actually scumhunt? I mean, look at the players in this game, more than half the game is inactive pretty much. How would that benefit me?
-If I was scum, why the hell would I go against what I said I was going to do and bring attention to me?
-If I was scum, why would I fake a post restriction lazily to the point where it was obviously fake?

^Only the first bullet has to do with balance.

[BBmolla]

Also that your first recruit was more likely to be town. that's just bullshit.

Do you think Tierce is scum?

[BBmolla]

Amrun why do you think I'm scum?

[BBmolla]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you said this before you ever acted worried about recruiting scum. yay I'm not buying this. Gonna keep reading and writing though in case I find a better case. Might have a beer while I do it too.

WHAT YOU QUOTED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECRUITING SCUM

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

^Amrun thoughts on this?

[Amrun]

Why should I have to tell you that?

I want to know what you think it is. Because clearly we have to different ideas about what it is in mind.

That balance makes you town. It clearly doesn't.

Balance isn't what makes me town, this is:

-If I was scum, then odds are she wouldn't be once I recruited her. A fucking scum recruiter would be so game breaking it's not even funny.

-If I was scum, I wouldn't recruit the player who can read me perfectly, that's like asking to get lynched.
-If I was scum, why the hell would I bring in a player who can actually scumhunt? I mean, look at the players in this game, more than half the game is inactive pretty much. How would that benefit me?
-If I was scum, why the hell would I go against what I said I was going to do and bring attention to me?
-If I was scum, why would I fake a post restriction lazily to the point where it was obviously fake?

^Only the first bullet has to do with balance.

How is that a point even worth making? "I could be scum, but Tierce isn't!" Congratulations... And no, a scum recruiter is NOT NECESSARILY gamebreaking, which we argued about before.

Also that your first recruit was more likely to be town. that's just bullshit.

Do you think Tierce is scum?

She seems town to me so far. That doesn't say anything about you and it doesn't make your point less wrong.

[BBmolla]

Amrun why do you think I'm scum?

[Amrun]

I don't, necessarily. When I thought you claimed unlimited recruiter and retracted it I did, but that's not what actually happened.

I'm on the fence about you. You are misrepresenting your towniness and really, really throwing a lot of wifom out there for us to process and that's not pro-town ... but I'm not convinced that makes you scum.

[Amrun]

I forgot to say that I'm poking your arguments and bad logic, obviously in an attempt to further my read.

[Captain Haddock]

@Haddock

: What is your read on Oversoul?

null-town.

Scratch that! Oversoul's question escaped my attention because I looked at BB's posts to reply to then went to bed, null/null-scum because I have no other reasons to suspect him.

This is the first time he called me scum, coincidently after I was put under a little pressure. I expect he was hoping I would go off him when he first responded to me, because before then he didn't give an opinion at all. This blatent opportunism was also ignored.

Your case is such complete shit and ignored players who were doing scummier things, which is why I voted you. I have a hard time telling between dumb and scum.

If BBmolla was trying to draw the nighkill, why has he posted 0 reasons for lynching anyone? Whenever he's voted since the guilty child his "reasoning" was some variation of:"his posts suck", even though his own posts were rolefishing, fluff and going on about his role.

If you're not a god damned PR you should

ALWAYS

be trying to draw the nightkill. What does my reasons for voting have to do with drawing the nightkill?

What fantastic case on "scummier players" did you make that I ignored?

I wasn't contending that genius, I was pointing out your play matched coasting scum, not a player trying to draw the nightkill. Eugh... I'm not even going to bother answering that question.

[Tierce]

@Haddock

: What is your read on Oversoul?

null-town.

Scratch that! Oversoul's question escaped my attention because I looked at BB's posts to reply to then went to bed,

null/null-scum because I have no other reasons to suspect him

.

...what?

[Agent_Ireland]

Oh, by the way, maniacal lemon is the only role so far that I can't see scum ever getting EVER - it's terrible for town, but absolutely game-breaking for scum.

That being said, I wish he'd be useful.

p-edit: Yes, that role sounds much more reasonable, balance-wise.

Normally, I'd agree with this, but isn't this a bastard game and wasn't the mod confirmed scum at the beginning town? Just saying.

As to everything else that happened, I have no clue. So I'm just gonna VOTE: NumberQ or his replacement because I'm not sure what to do right now.

[Tierce]

Oh, by the way, maniacal lemon is the only role so far that I can't see scum ever getting EVER - it's terrible for town, but absolutely game-breaking for scum.

Why? He's a vote magnet, but he's not unlynchable.

[Amrun]

Oh, by the way, maniacal lemon is the only role so far that I can't see scum ever getting EVER - it's terrible for town, but absolutely game-breaking for scum.

Why? He's a vote magnet, but he's not unlynchable.

Your point being?

[saulres]

Tierce, I wouldn't have asked you to, slumlord.

slumlord?

/prod recieved

And?

So I'm just gonna VOTE: NumberQ

Why that particular flaked player?

@BB: I'm backing off my scumread on your because I'm being swayed by some of your arguments (in particular, those in 639). I still don't think it was pro-town to have brought in someone like Tierce based completely on speculation that she'd be town-aligned, though. Better to bring in someone who when they're scum, they're obvscum, in my opinion.

@Tierce: Convince me about Oversoul. (Although don't, really, because this is close to my last post, excluding short ones, in this game before V/LA, especially with the extended deadline.)

@Amrun: I don't understand why the vote magnet is game-breaking for scum. Especially in this game.

[danakillsu]

WHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYY???
So much space, so little information. I can't glean anything from the last two pages.

[Oversoul]

Normally, I'd agree with this, but isn't this a bastard game and wasn't the mod confirmed scum at the beginning town? Just saying.

What does mod confirmed scum have to do with anything related to Maniacal?

[saulres]

What did you mean by slumlord?

[izakthegoomba]

Votecount 2.04

Phillammon (4) - IceGuy, danakillsu, saulres, ManiacalLemon
Amrun (1) - Phillammon
BBmolla (1) - Captain Haddock
ManiacalLemon (1) - BBmolla
Oversoul (1) - Tierce
numberQ (1) - Agent_Ireland
Captain Haddock (0) -

none

danakillsu (0) -

none

Foxace36 (0) -

none

saulres (0) -

none

Robotnick2 (0) -

none

PokerFace (0) -

none

kdowns (0) -

none

IceGuy (0) -

none

ShadowGirl (0) -

none

Gimmicky Alt (0) -

none

RedPanda (0) -

none

knox (0) -

none

Agent_Ireland (0) -

none

Tierce (0) -

none

No Lynch (0) -

none

Not voting (11) - Robotnick2, ShadowGirl, knox, Gimmicky Alt, numberQ, kdowns, Foxace36, PokerFace, Amrun, Oversoul, RedPanda


V/LA:
ShadowGirl (until 19th)
saulres (19th to 23rd)

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. The deadline is in (expired on 2012-04-29 08:00:00)

[Amrun]

Oh, by the way, maniacal lemon is the only role so far that I can't see scum ever getting EVER - it's terrible for town, but absolutely game-breaking for scum.

That being said, I wish he'd be useful.

p-edit: Yes, that role sounds much more reasonable, balance-wise.

Normally, I'd agree with this, but isn't this a bastard game and wasn't the mod confirmed scum at the beginning town? Just saying.

As to everything else that happened, I have no clue. So I'm just gonna VOTE: NumberQ or his replacement because I'm not sure what to do right now.

Possibly worst post of all game.


Saulres, think about it. Scum that literally cannot win LyLo if ONE town person votes him? He becomes the only lynchable player in LyLo.

I mean, the ONLY thing that makes it even remotely possible is THIS GAME being silly, as it is, but still ... there's a point where it's bastard and a point where it's broken, and I don't think the game's intent is to be broken.

Thinking about it more carefully, though, it's ALMOST as bad for town in LyLo... Meh. Not quite.

I guess I should take my own advice and not clear people based off roles.

But honestly, I still think that role is town. It's less of a handicap for town, but obv. still terrible. It's negative utility (clearly).

[Foxace36]

*Begins reread*

Soooo much pages....

This should be fun -_-

[Tierce]

@BB: I'm backing off my scumread on your because I'm being swayed by some of your arguments (in particular, those in 639). I still don't think it was pro-town to have brought in

someone like Tierce

based completely on speculation that she'd be town-aligned, though. Better to bring in someone who when they're scum, they're obvscum, in my opinion.

Bad memories of Open #369? I'm bad at scum, in that game I was a third-party aiming for a nightkill--thus the deliberately protown play.
And the MLP game is in Theme Park, but I did not get to post there, since it's a recovered thread. Look for a Large Theme by Rainbowdash.

@Tierce: Convince me about Oversoul. (Although don't, really, because this is close to my last post, excluding short ones, in this game before V/LA, especially with the extended deadline.)

So... what do you want, really?

[Tierce]

...And wrong thread. Please delete, izak. Stupid tabs.

Done
~mod

[Agent_Ireland]

NumberQ because we have nothing to go on for him and it's better than dealing with WIFOM in my opinion