Worst Role Mafia - GAME OVER!

[RedPanda]

Unvote vote Iceguy

[Amrun]

We do not have time for this shit.

I DO want to see more content from IceGuy, but I'm not particularly suspicious of him. He's analytically minded.

Deadline is upon us. Oversoul dies. His AtE does not sway me.

[ShadowGirl]

I figured you'd been looking at the worst roles thread and found a certain role, which I won't disclose at this time as it reveals something that you know but others don't. I further figured you'd decided it was my role, and I wouldn't blame you for feeling threatened by that. But in fact, that is not my role.

For town, they just lose my role and my contribution. For you, it's something more, but as you probably know by now, I can't say anything else at the moment.[/quote]
To clarify, your role does come from the Worst Roles Thread? Secondly, does the 'penalization' work the other way around?

I need to look over those wall of texts made by Oversoul but considering there was a lot of swearing directed at me I'll do them when I have some fresh ways...

[RedPanda]

It swayed me.

I'm pretty sure It will sway more people.

Those posts weren't just pulled out of his ass.

All legit.

[Amrun]

I kind of glaze over huge walls of all caps cursing. I'll try again tomorrow, I guess. JUST FOR YOU, RP.

[RedPanda]

<3

[ShadowGirl]

Tags, please k thx.

@Panda: What parts swayed you?

[RedPanda]

Let me do this.

Dana and 2bird
Guilty child? ok lets lynch oh he selfconfirmed scum okay lets lynch
dana and chimera.
masons okay one of them is scum lets lynch. taking heat for voting masons okay lets back out.
dana and haddock. people are starting to vote haddock lets lynch.
Dana and GNR oh people want to kill GNR instead. okay lets lynch.
new day first vote haddock.
Dana and philammon ok philammons getting heat. lets lynch. tunnel tunnel tunnel.

Well played dana. Very useful.
Saulres is kind of like dana with more walls and analysis but his voting history is very similar.

Iceguy This guy is another dana. Worse cause he's being very invisible in the game.

[knox]

knox: This one's tough, because of the post restriction. But it looks like he was highlighting things in dana's posts that he didn't like, and it seems like it centers on dana's flipping his vote off of Haddock and onto Phil. I saw that too when I was looking at his ISO, but I did my due diligence -- dana said he'd keep his vote on Haddock unless Haddock came in and made a good case. Haddock did that. After that, dana doesn't refer to it again, but I could see him saying "Well, I don't agree with Haddock's case, but at least he came in and put in a thought-out one, so I'll pursue this other good-looking lynch instead." I lean town on knox and think he was just confused on this though and look forward to his response to this.

Spoiler:

I don't take Chimera's word for it that he really has that voting thing, but it's a fair point that the mason part could be to throw us off. I just think that would be really random, for the mason pairing to have nothing to do with the worst roles part of the game.

unvote

Okay, let's see if I can use my knowledge of the role... or what little there is... to try and divine the trigger. It will probably be to do with how much attention we give you, be it little or less.

Would it be scummy to try and detonate Moneybags? Cause if not, I think ignoring him for several pages may cause an explosion of self-centred attention whoring.

It's so hard not to ignore him when he posts such unrelated, short, annoying posts.

ikidvdfvjdfk I forgot about Chimerahs voting disability... fuuuuu. Better on me than on another townie. He has to jump around anyways.

Explain?

Oversoul clearly wants me to be scum in this game for some reason, considering the really weak and carefully phrased case there. As if admitting I could be wrong about something is scummy.

Vote: Captain Haddock

That was one of the least pro-town posts I have ever seen.

The BB votes are weak and unfounded. I think

Captain Haddock is trying to pile on with everyone else, so unless he comes back and makes a good case

, this vote will stay on him.

vote: Captain Haddock

I haven't liked his play anyway.

Dana and saulres are the worst in this game.
I don't trust them one bit especially dana.
Just look at that scumbags posts.

Unvote Vote dana

The mason QT is depressing.
@Oversoul Who is worse? dana or BB

Meh.

VOTE: Phillamon

He has reminded me of his need for imminent death.

Also, BBmolla did claim 2-shot, so I'm okay with keeping him alive, for now. I am not really convinced, but he's not the best lynch.

Amrun's vote

spurred me to look at Philammon's iso, since I realized I haven't been following him too closely. Here's what I came up with.
Iso #11, #14, #19, #39
Really tentative and strange speculation, sometimes including rolefishing. It looks like scum trying to gain an information advantage.
Iso #34
Trying to set up a policy lynch.
Iso #35
Why me = fry me anyone? It might be a tad outdated, but a request for a case is often considered a scumtell because town should be more confident that there are no reasons for a vote on him/herself.
Iso #40/41
What? Looks like really weird flailing.

unvote vote: Philammon

I'm willing to see where this goes.

WHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYY???
So much space, so little information. I can't glean anything from the last two pages.

Vote danakillsu

[RedPanda]

Everything about his posts about Iceguy.

This is the question we need to ask

Where the fuck is the scumhunting?

[knox]

Also, Shadowgirl would be retarded to modkill me, which I do need to mention. So yeah, Shadowgirl, when you get back, wait and discuss things before choosing a modkill. You'll thank me later.

Alright, I'm back and alive and in need of a reread - any special things I should pay attention to?

The fact that

modkilling me

will have dire consequences for at least you if not every member of the town...but you may already know that.

As long as you use that kill wisely, I think you'll be ahead of many of the players right now.

List of

dumb current wagons: BBMolla, Oversoul, theamatuer.

That's from dumbest to least dumb. It looks like people have ignored what I've said about Phillammon so far, so here's some more scumtells:
Iso 57:

Paranoid that someone might be calling him scum

despite the fact that they voted me in the post.

Just look at that scumbags posts.
Unvote Vote dana

Amrun's vote spurred me to look at Philammon's iso......

unvote vote: Philammon

[quote="In post 918
Iso 60:

Jumps on

the Oversoul

wagon

. Reason? Everyone pushing for his lynch is convincing. Yup.[/quote]

I'm still calling it a dumb wagon, just less dumb than BBMolla or Oversoul.

You're really going to waste space quibbling over whether 1 vote qualifies as a wagon? That's sad. I'm saying that it is a waste of future votes. That's all. I don't know what you mean by "you think he's scummy". I don't think he is very scummy.

[knox]

[RedPanda]

Here's my promised analysis of those on the dana wagon.

danakillsu (3) - RedPanda, knox, ManiacalLemon

RedPanda: No reason other than "look at the iso". That's not a valid reason. Panda might be a better lynch than dana for that, will look at tomorrow.

knox: This one's tough, because of the post restriction. But it looks like he was highlighting things in dana's posts that he didn't like, and it seems like it centers on dana's flipping his vote off of Haddock and onto Phil. I saw that too when I was looking at his ISO, but I did my due diligence -- dana said he'd keep his vote on Haddock unless Haddock came in and made a good case. Haddock did that. After that, dana doesn't refer to it again, but I could see him saying "Well, I don't agree with Haddock's case, but at least he came in and put in a thought-out one, so I'll pursue this other good-looking lynch instead." I lean town on knox and think he was just confused on this though and look forward to his response to this.

ML: Another "just look at the iso". I'm not particularly impressed by this slot and I hope the anticipated replacement will come in and give us something to work with. The problem here of course is we can't just arbitrarily throw a vote at it unless it's a concerted effort with enough people committing to do so.

pedit: Saw ShadowGirl has dana at the top of her list, will have to look into why (unless she wants to point me to it?)

First
wagon analysis on an unflipped player.
Why aren't you doing a wagon analysis on flipped players?
Is it because You know If you do that you're going to be suspect number 1 along with a few guys?

Are you really this bad at this game or are you just playing "the I suck card" too much.

[RedPanda]

Hey look, another townread!

I know how you're getting your town reads.

I'm exactly the same.

If ever you want to hydra with somebody, please consider me

[knox]

[ShadowGirl]

Good point, Amateur.

I'm a pig. I will randomly be able to fly and when I do I am a commuter.

I have not gained this ability yet.

Do you mean to say there is a condition when you will become a commuter and you can choose to use your ability or that your ability is randomly used?

Hydra what now. Nevermind, you're just making me feel old...

[knox]

Spoiler: rant, final reads, filled with cursing, bad language, not the typical me, spoilered because I have some decency

[knox]

[ShadowGirl]

I want everyone on Phil's wagon to either change their vote or defend it. No useless vote parking.

[saulres]

That's what I was waiting for - Oversoul's response to the wagon, and his thoughts.

It was hard to get through the yelling post, but from what I read I found strange inconsistencies.

For example, he says "I am really tempted to fucking vig him." I wasn't aware that commuters could vig.

He says "The people on my wagon are playing against their wincons," meaning (if he's town) that he thinks Tierce, Gimmicky Alt, Agent_Ireland, brizingre1, theam, Amrun, and maybe mafia-noob (if he didn't see the moved vote), are all town, and yet he doesn't seem to believe that in his later comments. I think. It's so hard to read through the anger, and the thing is, I've seen kuribo do a lot of yelling and screaming as scum in order to distract -- it's a strategy. I just don't know if that's what Oversoul does as scum too.

The one which really bugs me is "I WILL NOT STAND FOR TOWN MISLYNCHING". I didn't see him railing against himself for yesterday's mislynch of GNR which he initiated.

Vote: Oversoul

It's interesting that he chose IceGuy to go after, as he's one of my scumspects too. If it's a bus it's a damn hard one, so if he flips scum, IceGuy's probably 3rdParty and still worth pursuing.

In other news:

Why aren't you doing a wagon analysis on flipped players?

...

It's not a wagon analysis. How many times do I have to explain this?

Tierce prompted me to look at dana to see if he's scum. I ISOed him and didn't see anything that struck me as such. So I looked at the people on his wagon to see why

they

were voting him.

[danakillsu]

To clarify, your role does come from the Worst Roles Thread? Secondly, does the 'penalization' work the other way around?

I need to look over those wall of texts made by Oversoul but considering there was a lot of swearing directed at me I'll do them when I have some fresh ways...

Indeed it does come from the thread. The penalization does work both ways. Neither of us wants the other dead, for more than just the fact that we're both town.


@knox
I have no idea what you're trying to point out there, so I can't defend against it. The only scrap I think I can pick out is that you're saying I'M paranoid someone thinks I'm scum. In fact, I'm not concerned about anyone thinking I'm scum except ShadowGirl. Obviously, I don't WANT to be lynched, but I'm only paranoid about ShadowGirl and for good reason. To say the least, it would be very disappointing to me if she was the one to kill me.


I might be willing to lynch IceGuy if it came down to it, but Oversoul is still not an option for me unless it prevents my own lynch. I'm only more sure about myself and ShadowGirl than I am about him. I've already defended my vote on Phillammon more than I should have to and won't do so again.

[theamatuer]

In other words, you can enable OS's ability. Y/N?

[ShadowGirl]

In other words, you can enable OS's ability. Y/N?

Who are you referring to and what is your logic behind this statement?

Indeed it does come from the thread. The penalization does work both ways. Neither of us wants the other dead, for more than just the fact that we're both town.

I'm not seeing how your role is anything but a traditional one with the only twist being that it's not predetermined, in which case I think it would be pretty stupid to use it. Is there any other aspect to it other than the 'penalization'?

[theamatuer]

Dana. OS claimed a commuter that needs something to work. Dana claimed that both of them would be penalized with the others death.
I assumed OS's trigger has something to do with dana.

[saulres]

@Mod:

: Requesting prods of Agent_Ireland and Foxace36. And how's that replacment for ManiacalLemon coming along?