Mini 1327: Murder in the Louvre- Day 6

[Parama]

CAN WE GET A REPLACEMENT OR PRODS OR SOMETHING FOR PIRATE. HE HASNT POSTED IN A WEEK.

or a lynch

[UberNinja]

Seriously, Pirate scum? I'm thinking it more and more as time goes on. He's been plenty active in this other game, but has somehow failed to rear his ugly head here. This falls right in with what Vi just said about "posting everywhere but the game where you're scum".

That makes sense to me on a personal level too, because I've done it.

And I'm gonna try to finish my thing. Ugh it's going to take forever and I probably won't finish it all today.

[Parama]

I don't give a damn about what Pirate did.

I mean.

Chiaro basically claimed scum in thread.

[Vi]

And for what point, according to you, should I continue to pursue the dead-end Furcolow wagon over UN?

Trying to look Town.

Also, failing.

[Zar]

And for what point, according to you, should I continue to pursue the dead-end Furcolow wagon over UN?

Trying to look Town.

Also, failing.

Meh.

I thought you'd be a better player, TBH.

Still not responding.

[UberNinja]

Already Completed:

Spoiler: shos

shos / Vi - I think shos is town, so no.
shos / diddin/Katsuki - I think shos is town, so no.
shos / QuilmoTeHAzN - I think shos is town, so no.
shos / Pirate Chiermosticada - I think shos is town, so no.
shos / Yosarian2 - I think shos is town, so no.
shos / Parama - I think shos is town, so no.
shos / Nuwen - I think shos is town, so no.
shos / Zar - I think shos is town, so no.
shos / charter - I think shos and charter are both town, so no.
shos / kanyeknowsbest - I think shos and kanye are both town, so no.
shos / Furcolow - I think shos and Furcolow are both town, so no.

Spoiler: Vi (scum)

Vi / diddin/Katsuki - diddin never mentioned Vi once. Katsuki never says anything substantive about Vi. But neither of those are a surprise.
Vi makes some statements about Katsuki that exhibits vague annoyance, and tries to vaguely paint him as scummy,

but

... Vi never mentions diddin once. Now that IS a surprise.
I doubt they're scum together, but it's vaguely possible.
I too am pretty annoyed at the 99,2% Katsuki fluff, especially in the aftermath of diddin being 100% useless.

Vi / QuilmoTeHAzN - In post 268 Vi chides Quil for being stupid. Reading my posts 289 and 304 reminds me greatly of why I think Quilford is town and why I have always suspected Vi of being scum.
Vi post 322 says "kanye is probscum regardless of Quilford's alignment" and doesn't "feel like taking the Quilbait atm".
Vi points out here and here and here that Quilford has replaced out as scummy town before.
I don't particularly think these slots are scum together, all things considered. I could be wrong but I don't get any feeling of any level of collusion from their posts.

Vi / Pirate Chiermosticada - Very possible

-The only time Chiaro mentioned Vi was in his replacing out post, saying he was "null, leaning scum" on Vi. That's pretty surreptitious distancing there buddy... NOT! (borat voice)
-Vi doesn't mention Chiaro until post 270, when replying to my post that says "you think Parama/Chiaro are scum, but not shos?" and Vi replies "Basically."
-After that, Vi won't switch to a Chiaro wagon in 306 because it's not a Parama wagon.
-Then, suddenly in 337, Vi seems willing to switch to a Chiaro wagon, but still doesn't do it.
-When it appears a Chiaro wagon is inevitable, Vi manages to switch to the wagon in a not-too-suspicious position (the L-3 vote), but gives absolutely no reason why Chiaro is scummy.
-Only after shos asks for a case does Vi say somthing about Chiaro in 481: "Chiarosicada has been largely passive and lurky up until now. All the scummy Townies can argue each other in a circle all Day long, and if the scum can skirt by along the side, so be it."
-After Chiaro replaces out, Vi unvotes in 502, saying "Unvote: Chiarosicada - This vote has served its purpose."
-In response to Parama saying "Pirate's still scum", Vi replies in 756: "I have no idea how you do this. Please teach me."
-All Pirate Chemist has ever said about Vi is "Vi is probably town".
-In response to Katsuki attacking Pirate Chemist, Vi points out in 794: "*lowest-content poster in the game - *replaces even-lower content poster - *tries to push policy lynch off on one of two other contenders for lowest-content posters" in an ad hominem attack against Katsuki that doesn't seem out of place because of how bad Katsuki has been playing. But in this context, it looks terrible because the only time Vi has ever attacked the Chiaro slot was when it was under at least three votes of pressure already (with Vi being the fourth vote), and even then didn't give any reasons for voting until shos asked for them. After that, the chainsaw attack against Katsuki and the sarcastic response to Parama don't feel all that great, especially since Vi hasn't said anything about changing opinions on the slot. The only indication is "the vote has served its purpose", and that's hardly enough to base any assumption of an opinion on.

Vi is very likely scum based on this. Is Chiaro's slot scum too? Probably, but not worth lynching first over Vi.

Vi is also doing another one of my favorite tactics: White knight a scummy townie who you think might be lynched, not just for the "I told you so" factor if they ARE lynched, but if they stay alive they may buddy back to you and never suspect you. This applies to both me (Vi has continually stated a town read on me) and Quilford (Vi pointed out at least three times, including a link to the game, that Quilford has replaced out as scummy town before). So there's that too, on top of everything else.

Vi / Yosarian2 - Ehhh, not seeing it. Vi has been trying too hard to make Yosarian look bad recently, probably hoping that I'll help out. I can't say it's unattractive to me, as Yos is one of the people I'd least like left alive if he's scum. However, I can't overlook that I have hard evidence of Vi being really scummy compared to the Chiaro slot, and I don't think Vi would distance from the Yos slot like that if they were scum together. However, their polar opposite opinions on me could be a farce, and it's possible they could be yukking it up that people are believing it; but I'm more convinced of Vi-scum than Yos-scum at this point (yeah, strange, I know), and aside from being inherently suspicious of both of them due to knowing they are "top-caliber players", I don't have much else to pin them together. Edit: Actually, after further reading, I'm even more convinced that they are not scum together. Which means Vi is acting with other accomplices.

Vi / Parama - Probably not scum together. Vi has been pushing for Parama's lynch all day, and Parama hasn't been too nice to Vi either. Could it be distancing/bussing? Yeah, it probably could be, but I'm not very keen on them being scum together at this point.

Vi / Nuwen - Vi is "ambivalent" on Nuwen in 618. Says Nuwen is acting like scum in post 707, and votes her. Vi reacts to my post saying that her and Nuwen could be scum together with veiled contempt, asking "why is Viscum voting Nuwenscum as a counterwagon to UberNinjaevidentlyTown?" In hindsight, that looks like both an admonishment to me that I shouldn't think Vi is scum, attached to some more buddying. Other than that, the point makes sense. But it makes sense for both town and scum, especially given the "buddy up to a townie who's pretty scummy" tactic I described earlier.

Vi / Zar - They haven't said enough about each other for me to decide. I am independently suspicious of both of them.

Vi / charter - I think charter is town, so no.

Vi / kanyeknowsbest - I am beginning to think kanye is town, so no.

Vi / Furcolow - I think Furcolow is town, so no.

Newly Completed:

Spoiler: diddin/Katsuki

diddin/Katsuki / QuilmoTeHAzN - Not enough content from diddin or Katsuki regarding Quilford's slot to make any connection here.

diddin/Katsuki / Pirate Chiermosticada - diddin said Chiaro was a good lynch in 351. Katsuki seems to be a bit defensive of Chiaro in 537. Says he needs replacing in 823. In 498, Chiaro's reads list says "not sure" about diddin/Katsuki. No other mentions of the diddin/Katsuki slot whatsoever.

diddin/Katsuki / Yosarian2 - Not enough content about Yos from the two lurkers, but Yos says diddin was a lurker, and that Kats is null. Yawn.

diddin/Katsuki / Parama - Parama calls diddin scum in 354, but votes Chiaro. Calls diddin scum again in 488. Only fluff about Katsuki. diddin/Katsuki never say anything alignment indicative about Parama. Yawn again.

diddin/Katsuki / Nuwen - diddin & Katsuki don't mention Nuwen at all, and all Nuwen says about that slot is that wagons on Katsuki or Nuwen (herself) are scum-initiated, in 709. In other words, a slight defense of the slot.

diddin/Katsuki / Zar - The only mention on either side is Zar saying he'd consider Katsuki a compromise lynch, in 862.

diddin/Katsuki / charter - I think charter is town, so no.

diddin/Katsuki / kanyeknowsbest - I am beginning to think kanye is town, so no.

diddin/Katsuki / Furcolow - I think Furcolow is town, so no.

Incomplete:

Spoiler: QuilmoTeHAzN

QuilmoTeHAzN / Pirate Chiermosticada -
QuilmoTeHAzN / Yosarian2 -
QuilmoTeHAzN / Parama -
QuilmoTeHAzN / Nuwen -
QuilmoTeHAzN / Zar -
QuilmoTeHAzN / charter - I think charter is town, so no.
QuilmoTeHAzN / kanyeknowsbest - I am beginning to think kanye is town, so no.
QuilmoTeHAzN / Furcolow - I think Furcolow is town, so no.

Spoiler: Pirate Chiermosticada

Pirate Chiermosticada / Yosarian2 -
Pirate Chiermosticada / Parama -
Pirate Chiermosticada / Nuwen -
Pirate Chiermosticada / Zar -
Pirate Chiermosticada / charter - I think charter is town, so no.
Pirate Chiermosticada / kanyeknowsbest - I am beginning to think kanye is town, so no.
Pirate Chiermosticada / Furcolow - I think Furcolow is town, so no.

Spoiler: Yosarian2

Yosarian2 / Parama -
Yosarian2 / Nuwen -
Yosarian2 / Zar -
Yosarian2 / charter - I think charter is town, so no.
Yosarian2 / kanyeknowsbest - I am beginning to think kanye is town, so no.
Yosarian2 / Furcolow - I think Furcolow is town, so no.

Spoiler: Parama

Parama / Nuwen -
Parama / Zar -
Parama / charter - I think charter is town, so no.
Parama / kanyeknowsbest - I am beginning to think kanye is town, so no.
Parama / Furcolow - I think Furcolow is town, so no.

Spoiler: Nuwen

Nuwen / Zar -
Nuwen / charter - I think charter is town, so no.
Nuwen / kanyeknowsbest - I am beginning to think kanye is town, so no.
Nuwen / Furcolow - I think Furcolow is town, so no.

Spoiler: Zar

Zar / charter - I think charter is town, so no.
Zar / kanyeknowsbest - I am beginning to think kanye is town, so no.
Zar / Furcolow - I think Furcolow is town, so no.

Spoiler: charter

charter / kanyeknowsbest - I think charter and kanye are both town, so no.
charter / Furcolow - I think charter and Furcolow are both town, so no.

Spoiler: kanyeknowsbest

kanyeknowsbest / Furcolow -

I got sidetracked again, so all you get today is diddin.

[springlullaby]

Pirate Chemist was prodded at the 72 hours mark. He has been issued his second prod since, as per the rules. If he does not pick it up at the end of the day, he will be replaced by Hiraki.

[shos]

crap, I had a post and chrome crashed

I remember asking Vi what those tells were - the Amished and the ellitell. and stuff. I also remember agreeing much with Yos.

you do realize you can click 'restore' when chrome reopens right?

that's what that feature is there for. now if it was IE on the other hand, you're shit outta luck

that restores your tabs, not what you wrote in the comment box lol

UN, I'll read the newly completed tomorrow

[Katsuki]

As much as I appreciate tabs, is it possible for you to not scumhunt with pairs when we have no flips? It's kinda silly to do D1. I opened my tab and it was basically a waste of time. :/

[kanyeknowsbest]

@un wth

also i dont think we can apply the ellitell to pirate. it looks to me like he just site flaked completely. saying that he was extremely active in another game is exaggerating the fact that he made all of 4 posts in another game that was much further along than this one less than a day after his last post here. that said, i didnt see his supposed scum claim before. i think thats actually a pretty solid strike against him. i still want to reread before i move my vote but as of now thats where its gonna go.

[Katsuki]

What was the scumclaim?

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I dunno why I've been just looking at this game and going eh.
I'm happy with a Vi or Pirate. I'll read this up soon

[Katsuki]

Welcome to my life.

btw this beats your sig:

[Vi]

Welcome to my life.

There's no turning back.

I'm happy with a Vi or Pirate. I'll read this up soon

This is entirely new.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Are you sharing?

[charter]

Ah. If Hiraki replaces in, I'm doing nothing but voting him. There is zero chance of a town win if he's in this game. Hiraki is bar none the dumbest player ever to grace mafiascum. It's even better because he's scum. So here's my last post until he's lynched.

Unvote, vote Hiraki

[shos]

Ah. If Hiraki replaces in, I'm doing nothing but voting him. There is zero chance of a town win if he's in this game. Hiraki is bar none the dumbest player ever to grace mafiascum. It's even better because he's scum. So here's my last post until he's lynched.

Unvote, vote Hiraki

lolwut?

U mad bro?

[shos]

alright, Nuwen, I have been investigating a LOT now about that hebrew piece and stuff, and I haven't found anything that can be related to the game whatsoever except for one theory. Can you please tell me what you found about it?

[Nuwen]

I'd rather wait and see if anything confirms my hunch.

[UberNinja]

crap, I had a post and chrome crashed

I remember asking Vi what those tells were - the Amished and the ellitell. and stuff. I also remember agreeing much with Yos.

you do realize you can click 'restore' when chrome reopens right?

that's what that feature is there for. now if it was IE on the other hand, you're shit outta luck

that restores your tabs, not what you wrote in the comment box lol

UN, I'll read the newly completed tomorrow

In my experience, it restores the entire browser state, including pages you were on, reference links you were anchored to, and/or text in boxes. I could be wrong but you can test it out by writing a short post, copy/pasting it so you don't lose it, then hitting Ctrl Alt Delete and force closing the chrome.exe processes. Then restart chrome and hit restore.

[UberNinja]

As much as I appreciate tabs, is it possible for you to not scumhunt with pairs when we have no flips? It's kinda silly to do D1. I opened my tab and it was basically a waste of time. :/

That's because

you

are basically a waste of time.

Compare/contrast with Vi, who has actually been playing the game.

[UberNinja]

Welcome to my life.

btw this beats your sig:

Fluffy fluffy~~~

[Zar]

@un wth

also i dont think we can apply the ellitell to pirate. it looks to me like he just site flaked completely. saying that he was extremely active in another game is exaggerating the fact that he made all of 4 posts in another game that was much further along than this one less than a day after his last post here. that said, i didnt see his supposed scum claim before. i think thats actually a pretty solid strike against him. i still want to reread before i move my vote but as of now thats where its gonna go.

when you do finish your reread, would you list your tiers?

[UberNinja]

Hmmm... in the interest of gaining information, I'll vote Vi, Yos, or Chiaro/replacement, and I'm warming up to Nuwen as scum too.

[UberNinja]

@shos: Fine.

UNVOTE
VOTE UBERNINJA

Why's this vote sound like it's ready, waiting, and begging to be blamed on shos?

Just saiyan